The hatred for shiites are ridiculous...

[Inaya]

First of all. Most islamic terrorist groups are sunnis. So if that is something to be proud of, then thats kinda sad.

But its usually not very well thought out. I assume this may be to the wahabist, or believers in authoritarian regimes taking it extremely literally. I btw saw a trailer for this Muhammad movie from 2015, and it was so much flooded with "SHIA IS BAD!" and all that stuff.

Like you don't see shiites go around sunni and say. "SUNNI SUXXX"

I mean that should tell you something who the bad guys really are. I mean i am not saying one should hate back just because one do. But you can tell who the agressors are here, and that there is simply a thing called agree or disagree. Portray argument on who has the best concluded arguments.

And its been awhile since i read Sahih al-bukhari. But i could swear it said somewhere to not split up and kill one another or something somewhere. But thats just me.

 

[JRMcC]

First of all. Most islamic terrorist groups are sunnis.

Thank you for pointing this out.

 

[YmirGF]

Thank you for pointing this out.

Oy very, eh? I had no idea this was particularly relevant. I guess Iran and Hezbully are nothing...

 

[Papoon]

Oy very, eh? I had no idea this was particularly relevant. I guess Iran and Hezbully are nothing...

Let's remember that the common folk of Iran are decent people under pressure from a theocracy. My Iranian friend and neighbor pointed out to me that most of the population are sick to death of being used as pawns by fanatics.
In fact, he said 'most Iranian people have no interest in religion'.
This is a common dilemma for earthlings. When thousands of North Koreans are performing like puppets for the 'beloved leader', they really wish they could flush him down a toilet.
Etc etc. Globally.

 

[YmirGF]

Let's remember that the common folk of Iran are decent people under pressure from a theocracy. My Iranian friend and neighbor pointed out to me that most of the population are sick to death of being used as pawns by fanatics.
In fact, he said 'most Iranian people have no interest in religion'.
This is a common dilemma for earthlings. When thousands of North Koreans are performing like puppets for the 'beloved leader', they really wish they could flush him down a toilet.
Etc etc. Globally.

I've actually heard similar stories. One former Muslim from Egypt stated that she figured that fully 1/3 of Muslims in Egypt would leave Islam tomorrow if they could but their society makes it quite impossible. It's like in the "west" where we speak of small "c" Catholics, or Catholics who haven't been to a church in decades or confession and yet still consider themselves to be Catholics. But, yes, I'm aware of the Iranian people, to a degree. During the short lived so-called "Arab spring" we turned our back on the Iranian people while goading the Egyptians and others. Terrible, really.

On the one hand you have the Obama Administration playing footsie with the Mullah's in Iran while, at the same time, demanding Assad's head on a platter. Talk about mixed signals to the Arab World and the middle East.

 

[Papoon]

I've actually heard similar stories. One former Muslim from Egypt stated that she figured that fully 1/3 of Muslims in Egypt would leave Islam tomorrow if they could but their society makes it quite impossible. It's like in the "west" where we speak of small "c" Catholics, or Catholics who haven't been to a church in decades or confession and yet still consider themselves to be Catholics. But, yes, I'm aware of the Iranian people, to a degree. During the short lived so-called "Arab spring" we turned our back on the Iranian people while goading the Egyptians and others. Terrible, really.

On the one hand you have the Obama Administration playing footsie with the Mullah's in Iran while, at the same time, demanding Assad's head on a platter. Talk about mixed signals to the Arab World and the middle East.

Viewed from the standpoint of modern psychology, whole populations are subject to immersive conditioning 24/7. Anyone familiar with the work of Milgram and Zimbardo is well aware of how straightforward it is to manipulate peer pressure and dominance/subordinance behaviors in humans, who are after all primates. This is probably why theocracies make a point of convincing humans that they are fundamentally different from chimps. If they did not do this, it would be too easy for their victims to see through such basic mechanisms of coercion.
This also applies in the US of course. Without a large percentage of the population being conditioned to see the US as representing the 'will of God', the international terrorism labelled 'foreign affairs' (geopolitical pragmatism, for the thinking idiot) would not receive sufficient public support.

 

[JRMcC]

Oy very, eh? I had no idea this was particularly relevant. I guess Iran and Hezbully are nothing...

The terrorists who attack us are usually sunni. Very import to understand if you're making foreign policy decisions.

It's been almost 20 years since hezbollah has attacked us. And I'm not worried about Iran.

 

[Useless2015]

Because Shia are pagan idolworshippers who worship the family of Muhammed s.a.w. And are known for having lectures on how to accuse and insult the wife of Muhammed saw. Or how to wish hell in every 'prayer' to the 3 closest friends of Muhammed saw. I don't know who are you trying to fool here?

 

[Shia Islam]

First ..I must say that I did not read the OP...
However, I will say this...

It seems that you will rarely find a non-Shiite who understands the Shiite-Sunni issue...

I will give this info:

The Shiites believe that as the Jews -and i apologize here to our Jewish brothers- have killed Jesus, the Arabs at the time of prophet Muhammad have killed him and Hijacked Islam...

They burnt the sayings of the prophet and misinterpreted the the Quran to fit their rule...

The Shiites were the opposition movement within the Islamic Caliphate...

Until few centuries back, before the rulers of Iran decided to convert to Shiism, the persecution of the Shiites was indescribable.

And even after the conversion of Iran to shia Islam, the Shiites remain to be a minority, and they are still persecuted in many Muslim countries...

As of Iran, it was being ruled by a tyrant who depended on the foreigners to stay in power, and his policies resulted in the current situation, where Iran has bad relation with many countries...However this has nothing to do with Shia Islam as a religion...

Similarly, Hizbollah's issue is local Lebanese issue and was a result of the Israeli occupation of parts of Lebanon.

All in all, all of these are political issues that has nothing to do with Shia Islam as a religion, which believes in the coming of a Savior, who is the Mahdi.

The Sunni militant groups, on the other hand, although they don't deny the Mahdi, they believe that they have to initiate a Jihad to restore their lost
Caliphate, which they have portrayed in a mythical way.

 

[raph]

Imo the two groups may disagree with one another but should stop thr hate and killings. So maybe sunnis are followers of Muhamnad saw killers. Let them be you dont have to join them. And maybe the shiites are idol worshippers. In that case, God will deal with them.

Noone can know which group is right, but wtf you dont have to kill or insult people for what they believe

 

[GoodbyeDave]

Yes, contrary to what indoctrinated USians believe, terrorism is a Sunni thing. Of all the terrorist attacks in Britain, France, and the US, how many were perpetrated by Shi'ites? I can't think of any.

Why don't Shi'ites advocate jihad? Because for over a thousand years they've been on the receiving end! And some Shiites, such as the Alawites are even branded non-Muslim by the Sunnis.

Personally, I consider all the Abrahamic religions - Judaism, Christianity, and Islam - have been more trouble than they're worth, but I'm not going to fall for Sunni propaganda.