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The Holy Spirit as a "she"

The Holy Spirit is known as the third "person" of the Trinity

And if you are a "person" then you have a gender, that is a part of personhood

Given that the other two persons are male would it not be fair to give The Holy Spirt feminine pronouns?

Given that over half the population are female I think this would be a good move

It's not fair having all of the Trinity male

I for one will be doing that anyway...

I hope others will follow me and that in time this will become a common convention

Does anyone have any objections?
Uh, it is not up to us to change someone's gender even though that is popular nowadays. I, myself, would be careful even thinking a thing like that. The Lord says "he" when talking about the Holy Spirit. That is pretty much way over our heads and final.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
In natural human life no machine...no thesis and two equal humans.

Conscious not speaking. Why some holy men decided never to speak again and just commune.

A man hu man thesis.
A female Hu man non theist.

Man lives on by female Hu man womb and small o. Ovary.

Theoried large cell O science pi Phi.

Became self possessed by his life sacrificed as his equal partner and his human mother owned o. Ovary life continuance.

Science became his fake mother space womb abomination.

His rational logic science brother said science is not male or female human life. We no longer falsify scientific fact symbolism was a letter with a number factor.

A letter and a number is not human sexual being.

Why did science infer human life?

As science fake space womb cause machine activated attacked all genetic life. Medical science introduced to occult science as a new field versus occult cause. The reason.

Medical science field wisdom correct.

Occult alien field wisdom fake.
 

Wrangler

Ask And You Will Receive
a female Holy Spirit would be complementary with a male God.

As a unitarian, I hold there is only one God. As a man, I have a spirit. This does not make me 2 people. My spirit is a male spirit. My wife is a woman. She has a spirit. This does not make her 2 people. Her spirit is female. God, aka The Father, is male. He has a Spirit, which is PROPERLY complemented as male. It is odd to suppose any other way.

This is just a personal interpretation , of course.

You may not know the term 'personal interpretation' is used by orthodox religions to mock Protestants. I doubt you mean that. Having said that, calling something a personal interpretation does not make it valid. For instance, in reading comprehension, asked who went up the hill in the famous "Jack and Jill went up the hill," you cannot just project whatever answer you want and defend it by calling it a personal interpretation.

I already referenced that Jesus calls the Holy Spirit he. Moreover, I presented a logical analysis using biology and a spirit reflects the person it comes from. Textual and logical analysis in alignment. On what basis do you assert a trans-spirit would 'complement' a male being?
 

roberto

Active Member
In the Old Testament (OT) it is clear that the inspired Bible writers intended holy spirit to be understood as an invisible, powerful force from God.

Jip, and I have come to understand that this force is like Blue tooth.

Both both primary and secondary devices have to be "switched on" to enable transfer of data between them.

Welcome to 2021.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
When non factual advice is used sexual terms when creation is not sexual is termed false advice with false meaning. Status and ownership.

Advice cult group the forced group status. Versus natural self. Every one self as a self body.

An explanation.

If you quote by control conditions fake first then talk about information about what does not exist science.

Immediately science contradicts itself. For it had to introduce space into mass of energy to abstract it.

A man male group human choice.

Yet natural history said O body mass earth owned spatial abstraction as sink holes in God earth.

O God not a man in science is mass. One body mass of variations.

O God planet owned it's created heavens by space conditions.

Straight away the mind says space owns gas. To get gas out if mass stone I need to make a space.

Conversion is that advice

Not any man male or female ownership.

When life was attacked his man brothers had to preach life was owned by the presence of forms.

Said we need God not to be changed.
Said we live by God owning one sacrificed gas mass natural light in voided condition.

It was owned as natural light by space conditions plus it's own sacrifice burning balanced by non burning.

A teaching.

If you taught inference it was for humans who did not understand science.

If you had to infer God mass was man it was a teaching.
If you said God man owned heavens as man spirit God then you did.

But quote yet no man is God to remind everyone it is not about ownership just explanation.

If you said God man spirit gases were sacrificed you were talking why natural light existed

Man was not God not gas spirit burning.

Then you preached why man on ground brought sacrificed spirit of God man to his man life and sacrificed it.

As real man science did evil sin.

How it was taught for humans who never knew nor understood science status.

Mother teachings inferred.
Space is like a womb respect it.

O earth nurtures our human life like our mother human does. Respect it.

The only one real holy mother a human mother womb ovary owner.

Father a human man male is not a mother womb ovary owner.

Science falsified stories.

As an adult man can only be sperm penis owner.
An adult female ovary owner owns life continuance by cell.

Man is abstract as adult human as no longer is he an ovary.

Father adult man by self recorded lived living heavenly record. Dies. Humans bio form dies but leaves living record life lived.

Father living memory heavens only record.
Human man life owned physically by bio ovary in bio mother life

Told a story falsely about his man life and why he owned life continuance as a human. By real sex. By immaculate reasoning.

He told his thesis about why his man adult life image recorded presence went away out of atmosphere by gas mass removal. And then it's replaced mass. By saviour asteroid release of gases.

Proving why memory feedback of his natural father falsified fed back info to mind conscious advice about false spirits that science satanism had conjured. The AI vision effect.

Exactly how it was taught.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
The Holy Spirit is known as the third "person" of the Trinity

And if you are a "person" then you have a gender, that is a part of personhood

Given that the other two persons are male would it not be fair to give The Holy Spirt feminine pronouns?

Given that over half the population are female I think this would be a good move

It's not fair having all of the Trinity male

I for one will be doing that anyway...

I hope others will follow me and that in time this will become a common convention

Does anyone have any objections?

I believe that is only one definition of person. There are others that do not require a gender.

I believe God isn't worried about being fair. The Paraclete is the indwelling of the Spirit of God in believers, who are both male and female but the source is the Father and Jesus so it still is technically male.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
It doesn't make sense that a singular deity would have gender.
So the genderless pronoun "they" is best.
And this should really suit those favoring a trinity.

I don't believe there is a "they" in the Trinity. If I want to refer to more than one then I say members of the Trinity.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Monsignor Poma, a Catholic theologian said that once. That is that the Father represents the male archetype, which is clearly present in the Ancient Testament.
But Ruach (the Holy Spirity) is a feminine noun because it represents the female archetype.
And that is why the Holy Spirit made Jesus's coming possible. When John says The Word became Flesh, that is what happened.

Of course these are just personal interpretations, underlines Monsignor Poma.

I believe the RCC is male dominated so it seems a bit hypocritical to me.
 

Earthtank

Active Member
Given that the other two persons are male would it not be fair to give The Holy Spirt feminine pronouns?

How is that fair or not fair? What objective standard are you using for fair?

Given that over half the population are female I think this would be a good move

What? What?

It's not fair having all of the Trinity male

How is that fair or not fair? What objective standard are you using for fair?

So as a Christian you are admitting you "God" is a human? well, at least that's the most rational and also illogical result of your post. No i did not misspeak, if you are confused to what i am saying just reread it till it clicks.
 

Skywalker

Well-Known Member
The Holy Spirit is known as the third "person" of the Trinity

And if you are a "person" then you have a gender, that is a part of personhood

Given that the other two persons are male would it not be fair to give The Holy Spirt feminine pronouns?

Given that over half the population are female I think this would be a good move

It's not fair having all of the Trinity male

I for one will be doing that anyway...

I hope others will follow me and that in time this will become a common convention

Does anyone have any objections?

The Bible calls the Holy Spirit a he. NIV 2011 No Longer Calls Holy Spirit “He”


John 14:26, “But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.”

That masculine pronoun “he” is critically important, plainly evidencing that there is NO female aspect of the GODHEAD. Lest you should fail to see the importance of this matter, consider that feminists have concocted their own New Age theology called, yep you guessed it... FEMINIST THEOLOGY! Feminist Theology teaches that the Holy Spirit is the feminine aspect of the Godhead; whereas the Bible only teaches a masculine God. Whether it be Wiccan witches, Yin-yang, New Age, or Feminist Theology... they all teach a feminine side of the Godhead just as pagans have done throughout history. The Bible teaches God the FATHER, God the SON, and refers to the HOLY SPIRIT as “HE.”
 

TiggerII

Active Member
We should be aware that every important, oft-mentioned individual in both testaments has a personal name. God is YHWH (Jehovah/Yahweh/Yehowah); God's only-begotten Son is Yehoshua/Iesus; the Holy Spirit's personal name is ?????. That's right this extremely important 'person' is never given a personal name.

We also should be aware that both the NT Greek and the OT Hebrew are languages which assign genders to their nouns and pronouns.

Gender in both Old and New Testaments is given to literal mature individuals according to their sex. "Man" is masculine in both Testaments; "woman" is feminine; "God" is masculine; etc.

But, as we would expect, this "impersonal power" (the Holy Spirit) is given a gender in the Hebrew and Greek scriptures befitting its meaning as a non-person.

In the Greek, "Holy Spirit" is neuter and so are the pronouns which are used for it.

There is no neuter gender in Hebrew, but the feminine is often used in its stead. And yes, Holy Spirit" is feminine in the Hebrew text. (Neuter in Greek and feminine in Hebrew!)

As for verses like John 14:26, the pronoun has to be masculine in the Greek because the antecedent itself ("helper" paraclete) in this case is masculine (and the gender of the pronouns, articles, etc. must agree with their antecedent).

And since "Holy Spirit" is in the neuter gender, its pronouns, articles, etc. must agree. So it is that John 14:17 shows in the Greek that "Spirit" is the antecedent of ('which'), αὐτὸ ("it"), αὐτὸ ("it"). So, in spite of some translations, John 14:17 actually says in the NT Greek text, "17 τὸ πνεῦμα τῆς ἀληθείας, ὁ κόσμος οὐ δύναται λαβεῖν, ὅτι οὐ θεωρεῖ αὐτὸ οὐδὲ γινώσκει· ὑμεῖς γινώσκετε αὐτό, ὅτι παρ’ ὑμῖν μένει καὶ ἐν ὑμῖν ἔστιν (or ἔσται).

"The Spirit of the truth, (ὃ) which the world not is able to receive, because not it is beholding (αὐτὸ) it nor is knowing; you are knowing (αὐτὸ) it because with you it is remaining and in you it is (or 'will be')."

Again, there is no personal name given for Holy Spirit, and it is in the neuter gender in NT Greek and in the feminine gender in Hebrew (where it can also be understood as neuter).
 
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