the importance of Satsang

[ratikala]

namaskaram :namaste

what importance do you give to satsang ?

how easy is it for you to find good company and felowship ?

 

[GURSIKH]

:namaskar:

sat sangat is utmost important

[SIZE=+1]Ḏẖan ḏẖan saṯsangaṯ jiṯ har ras pā▫i▫ā mil jan Nānak nām pargās. ||4||4||[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Blessed, blessed is the Sat Sangat, the True Congregation, where the Lord's Essence is obtained. Meeting with His humble servant, O Nanak, the Light of the Naam shines forth. ||4||4||
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how easy is it for you to find good company and felowship ?

Listening Gurbani is a Sat sangat for me

 

[Jainarayan]

I maintain a mental satsang. I'm not one for forming relationships with groups of people, only because I had what I look back at now as some less than pleasant experiences. But on the whole, it do think it's important to keep company with people of the same beliefs and values as oneself. My late f-i-l used to say "show me your friends and I'll tell you who you are".

 

[Vinayaka]

What is satsang, according to you, Ratikala? I ask, because in my experience, it varies. Some groups have formal satsangs (get-togethers for religion) at peoples' homes etc, while a more general defintion is just 'meeting with people, sop in this broader definition, going to temple would be considered satsang. There are also other terms for the same thing.

 

[chinu]

namaskaram :namaste

what importance do you give to satsang ?

how easy is it for you to find good company and felowship ?

Satsang is the composition of two words Sat + Sang
Sat means Truth, Sang means Company.

There are only two thing said to be TRUE in the whole fake that is all around, Soul and God / Atma and parmatma, Thus.. the re-union of soul and god is known as true Satsang.

Secondly, Satsang is also said to be the company of any person who is in the unity with God, Such persons are called as Saint,Godman, Guru's, Massiahs, Prophets, Peers, Nabis, Murshde kamil, Faquirs etc.

The company of fake Guru or Saint is not a true Satsang.

 

[ratikala]

namaskaram :namaste

:namaskar:

sat sangat is utmost important

[SIZE=+1]Ḏẖan ḏẖan saṯsangaṯ jiṯ har ras pā▫i▫ā mil jan Nānak nām pargās. ||4||4||[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Blessed, blessed is the Sat Sangat, the True Congregation, where the Lord's Essence is obtained. Meeting with His humble servant, O Nanak, the Light of the Naam shines forth. ||4||4||
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jai jai , .......:bow: you could not have found a more perfect verse .

Listening Gurbani is a Sat sangat for me

jai jai , :namaste

 

[ratikala]

dear jainarayan ji :namaste

I maintain a mental satsang.

I think this is quite common , as true sangha is not asy to find , so many are looking to the pure word of shastra as our sangha .

I'm not one for forming relationships with groups of people, only because I had what I look back at now as some less than pleasant experiences. But on the whole, it do think it's important to keep company with people of the same beliefs and values as oneself. My late f-i-l used to say "show me your friends and I'll tell you who you are".

so true , to be in association with the like minded provides inspiration and support , and where bhakti is involved it is so enjoyable simply to discuss and share .

I hope you feel that we have some true sangha here and can enjoy each others company:camp: and association ,

welcome to our satsang

 

[Sumit]

what importance do you give to satsang ?

I always want to go satsang but never got chance

 

[ratikala]

dear vinayaka ji,

What is satsang, according to you, Ratikala?

what is satsang to me ? .....pure association , time spent in the company of those whos focus is upon the lord , time spent prehaps listening to shastra , singing kirtan and sharing in the joy of blessed company .

I ask, because in my experience, it varies. Some groups have formal satsangs (get-togethers for religion) at peoples' homes etc,

yes we do this too , especialy when our guru comes to visit , each family will offer the chance to congregate in a less formal atmosphere so that there is plenty of time to sit and listen the guru will speak on what ever topic he is most inspired to teach often there is kirtan and a sharing of prasad , but can be for many reasons with or without the gurus presence , in which case someone may take the oppertunity to read or lead kirtan , it can be formal or informal , large or small gatherings any where realy just an excuse to talk of higer things and share frendship , it is also an oppertunity to serve others .

while a more general defintion is just 'meeting with people, sop in this broader definition, going to temple would be considered satsang. There are also other terms for the same thing.

yes , in truth any company in which one is inclined towards thinking and speaking of god :namaste

 

[ratikala]

namaskaram sumit ji ,

I always want to go satsang but never got chance

please join our on line satsang :camp:

please choose your favorite bhajan and post it for us , or choose a verse to share ,:namaste

 

[Sumit]

namaskaram sumit ji ,



please join our on line satsang :camp:

Thanks for invitation :bow:

please choose your favorite bhajan and post it for us , or choose a verse to share ,:namaste

One of my favorite bhajan/arti
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Om Jai Jagdish Hare [Full Song] - Aarti Bhakti Geet - YouTube

 

[ratikala]

namaskaram chinu bai ,

Satsang is the composition of two words Sat + Sang
Sat means Truth, Sang means Company.

jai jai ,

There are only two thing said to be TRUE in the whole fake that is all around, Soul and God / Atma and parmatma, Thus.. the re-union of soul and god is known as true Satsang

so true , so in the company of those who realise and love god we come to gether to share love of god :namaste

Secondly, Satsang is also said to be the company of any person who is in the unity with God, Such persons are called as Saint,Godman, Guru's, Massiahs, Prophets, Peers, Nabis, Murshde kamil, Faquirs etc.

:bow:

The company of fake Guru or Saint is not a true Satsang.

sadly no

:camp:
welcome to our satsang ,
prehaps chinu would like to give us a fevorite bhajan or shabad ?

 

[ratikala]

Thanks for invitation :bow:

welcome :namaste

One of my favorite bhajan/arti

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Om Jai Jagdish Hare [Full Song] - Aarti Bhakti Geet - YouTube


Om Jai Jagdish Hare (With Translation)
Om jai Jagdish hare
Swami jai Jagdish hare
Bhakt jano ke sankat
Das jano ke sankat
Kshan men door kare
Om jai Jagdish hare
Jo dhiave phal pave
Dukh bin se man ka
Swami dukh bin se man ka
Sukh sampati ghar ave
Sukh sampati ghar ave
Kasht mite tan ka
Om jai Jagdish hare
Mat pita tum mere
Sharan padun main kiski
Swami sharan padun main kiski
Tum bin aur na dooja
Prabhu bin aur na dooja
Aas karun main jiski
Om jai Jagdish hare
Tum puran Parmatam
Tum Antaryami
Swami tum Antaryami
Par Brahm Parmeshwar
Par Brahm Parmeshwar
Tum sabke swami
Om jai Jagdish hare
Tum karuna ke sagar
Tum palan karta
Swami tum palan karta
Main murakh khalkhami
Main sevak tum swami
Kripa karo Bharta
Om jai Jagdish hare
Tum ho ek agochar
Sab ke pranpati
Swami sab ke pranpati
Kis vidh milun Gosain
Kis vidh milun Dyalu
Tum ko main gumti
Om jai Jagdish hare
Deen bandhu dukh harta
Thakur tum mere
Swami Thakur tum mere
Apne haath uthao
Apni sharani lagao
Dwar pada hoon tere
Om jai Jagdish hare
Vishay vikar mitao
Paap haro Deva
Swami paap haro Deva
Shradha bhakti badao
Shradha prem badao
Santan ki seva
Om jai Jagdish hare

Translation
Oh Lord of the whole Universe
Mighty Lord of the whole
Universe
All Thy devotees' agonies
All Thy devotees' sorrows
Instantly Thou banisheth
Oh Lord of the whole Universe
He who's immersed in devotion
He reaps the fruits of Thy love
Lord, he reaps the fruits of Thy
love
Floating in a cloud of comforts
Floating in a cloud of comforts
Free from all the worldly
problems
Oh Lord of the whole Universe
Thou art Mother and Father
At Thy feet I seek eternal truth
Lord, at Thy feet I seek eternal
truth
There's none other than Thee,
Lord
There's none other than Thee,
Lord
Guardian of all our hopes
Oh Lord of the whole Universe
Thou art Godly perfection
Omnipotent Master of all
Lord, omnipotent Master of all
My destiny's in Thy Hand
My destiny's in Thy Hand
Supreme Soul of all Creation
Oh Lord of the whole Universe
Thou art an ocean of mercy
Gracious protector of all
Lord, gracious protector of all
I'm Thy humble devotee
I'm Thy humble devotee
Grant me Thy divine grace
Oh Lord of the whole Universe
Thou art beyond all perception
Formless and yet multiform
Lord, formless and yet multiform
Grant me a glimpse of Thyself
Grant me a glimpse of Thyself
Guide me along the path to Thee
Oh Lord of the whole Universe
Friend of the helpless and feeble
Benevolent saviour of all
Lord, benevolent saviour of all
Offer me Thy hand of
compassion
Offer me Thy hand of
compassion
I seek refuge at Thy feet
Oh Lord of the whole Universe
Surmounting the earthly desires
Free from the sins of this life
Lord, free from the sins of this life
Undivided faith and devotion
Undivided faith and devotion
In eternal service unto Thee
Oh Lord of the whole Universe
Oh Lord of the whole Universe
Mighty Lord of the whole
Universe
All Thy devotees' agonies
All Thy devotees' sorrows
Instantly Thou banisheth
Oh Lord of the whole Universe

jai , jai Jagdish hare :namaste

 

[Jainarayan]

I hope you feel that we have some true sangha here and can enjoy each others company:camp: and association ,

welcome to our satsang

Yes, I consider this a satsang.

 

[Jainarayan]

welcome :namaste


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Om Jai Jagdish Hare [Full Song] - Aarti Bhakti Geet - YouTube

I love this. It's so joyful. I have a version in my iPod. When I hear the tinkling of the bells at the beginning I know it is going to play, and I smile.

 

[ratikala]

two versions of one of my favorite bhajans writen by Narasinh Mehta ,

Vaishnava Jan - YouTube
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Vaishnava Jan to - Riyaaz Qawwali - YouTube
Vaishnav jan to tene kahiye je [One who is a vaishnav]
PeeD paraayi jaaNe re [Knows the pain of others]
Par-dukhkhe upkaar kare toye [Does good to others, esp. to those ones who are in misery]
Man abhimaan na aaNe re [Does not let pride enter his mind]
Vaishnav...
SakaL lok maan sahune vande [A Vaishnav, Tolerates and praises the the entire world]
Nindaa na kare keni re [Does not say bad things about anyone]
Vaach kaachh man nishchaL raakhe [Keeps his/her words, actions and thoughts pure]
Dhan-dhan janani teni re [O Vaishnav, your mother is blessed (dhanya-dhanya)]
Vaishnav...
Sam-drishti ne trishna tyaagi [A Vaishnav sees everything equally, rejects greed and avarice]
Par-stree jene maat re [Considers some one else's wife/daughter as his mother]
Jivha thaki asatya na bole [The toungue may get tired, but will never speak lies]
Par-dhan nav jhaalee haath re [Does not even touch someone else's property]
Vaishnav...
Moh-maaya vyaape nahi jene [A Vaishnav does not succumb to worldly attachments]
DriDh vairaagya jena man maan re [Who has devoted himself to stauch detachment to worldly pleasures]
Ram naam shoon taaLi laagi [Who has been edicted to the elixir coming by the name of Ram]
SakaL tirath tena tan maan re [For whom all the religious sites are in the mind]
Vaishnav...
VaN-lobhi ne kapaT-rahit chhe [Who has no greed and deciet]
Kaam-krodh nivaarya re [Who has renounced lust of all types and anger]
BhaNe Narsaiyyo tenun darshan karta [The poet Narsi will like to see such a person]
KuL ekoter taarya re [By who's virtue, the entire family gets salvation]
Vaishnav...

Narsinh Mehta , ..ki jai :namaste

 

[Vinayaka]

I think its important, then, but its good to be with members of your own sub-sect, samparadaya etc. Then you know you can say anything. There is nothing better than being with fellow sishya of the same Guru. You know exactly where they are coming from, because religiously, you're really in the same mind strata.

 

[ratikala]

namaskaram vinayaka ji ,

I think its important, then, but its good to be with members of your own sub-sect, samparadaya etc. Then you know you can say anything. There is nothing better than being with fellow sishya of the same Guru. You know exactly where they are coming from, because religiously, you're really in the same mind strata.

yes this is good , of course the company within our own sampradaya is very helpfull to us in our sadhana , but I hope you can also enjoy the company of fellows from other dharmic traditions , I find it wonderfull to exchange understandings of that one truth

I love the line that ghandi made popular ..'Ishwara allah tere namma'....

Hindi
रघुपति राघव राजाराम,
पतित पावन सीताराम सीताराम सीताराम,
भज प्यारे तू सीताराम ईश्वर अल्लाह तेरो नाम,
सब को सन्मति दे भगवान
Transliteration :
raghupati rāghav rājārām,
patit pāvan sītārāmsītārām,
sītārām,bhaj pyāre tū sītārām
īśvar allāh tero nām,
sab ko sanmati de bhagavān
Translation:
Chief of the house of Raghu,
Lord Rama,Uplifters of those who have fallen, Sita and Rama,Sita and Rama, Sita and Rama,
O beloved, praise Sita and Rama,
God and Allah are your names,
Bless everyone with this wisdom, Lord.



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Raghupati Raghav Raja Ram by Jagjit Singh & Chitra Singh - Ram Bhajans - Hey Ram - YouTube

 

[Vinayaka]

, but I hope you can also enjoy the company of fellows from other dharmic traditions , I find it wonderfull to exchange understandings of that one truth

Now that all depends. One person's 'exchange of understandings' is another's overt proseltysing. So it really depends. Certainly it should go both ways.

"What? You guys don't sing the arrti song? Everybody sings the aarti song. What kind of temple is this anyway? "

I like to go to 'other' style temples occasionally, yes, but I often feel out of place, and occasionally get accosted. But its all good.

 

[chinu]

:camp:
welcome to our satsang ,

My pleasure, Ratikala ji.

prehaps chinu would like to give us a fevorite bhajan or shabad ?

Ratikala ji, the word BHAJAN is the composition of two words, BHAJ + N
"BHAJ" means run, and "N" means to stop, Thus.. the true meanings of BHAJAN is to stop the "mind" from running in mundaneness, in order to get connection with God.

Yes, that "bhajan" is beneficial which helps our heart to get disconnection from this mundaneness, But people make a big mistake when they start hearing too much of these bhajans, because hearing too much of these bhajans are no more than songs, such bhajans start connecting people with each other, which gives an opposite result to the motive for which they are bing done, too much of these bhajans becomes the reason of connection rather than disconnection from this mundaneness.

Apart from all these bhajans. MEDITAION is also known as Bhajan, which i consider as the highest of all bhajans, which is safe and away from all kind of illusionary tricks of our MIND.