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The Inconvenient Truth About Jews From Arab Lands: They Were Expelled

Perhaps the biggest lie of the Palestinian movement is that the Jewish homeland is like "South African apartheid." In fact, Israel is better compared to a "reservation" or "safe house" for indigenous Middle Eastern Jews who were ethnically cleansed from Arab lands.

http://forward.com/culture/199257/the-inconvenient-truth-about-jews-from-arab-lands/

Once you know the truth, you can recognize the false Arab narrative for what it is, propaganda of hate.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Perhaps the biggest lie of the Palestinian movement is that the Jewish homeland is like "South African apartheid." In fact, Israel is better compared to a "reservation" or "safe house" for indigenous Middle Eastern Jews who were ethnically cleansed from Arab lands.

http://forward.com/culture/199257/the-inconvenient-truth-about-jews-from-arab-lands/

Once you know the truth, you can recognize the false Arab narrative for what it is, propaganda of hate.
Don't forget that after WW2, european governments refused to give housing and land back to their rightful Jewish owners. Pretty absurd to claim that the jews didn't need a safe place to call home.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
In fact, Israel is better compared to a "reservation" or "safe house" for indigenous Middle Eastern Jews who were ethnically cleansed from Arab lands.

I believe it was @Flankerl who posted some links to information about all the land and assets that Jewish people had to abandon in Muslim countries after the war against Israel.
Tom
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Perhaps the biggest lie of the Palestinian movement is that the Jewish homeland is like "South African apartheid." In fact, Israel is better compared to a "reservation" or "safe house" for indigenous Middle Eastern Jews who were ethnically cleansed from Arab lands.

http://forward.com/culture/199257/the-inconvenient-truth-about-jews-from-arab-lands/

Once you know the truth, you can recognize the false Arab narrative for what it is, propaganda of hate.
I check the dates of link , most of Arab world was under occupation in that time
 

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Perhaps the biggest lie of the Palestinian movement is that the Jewish homeland is like "South African apartheid." In fact, Israel is better compared to a "reservation" or "safe house" for indigenous Middle Eastern Jews who were ethnically cleansed from Arab lands.

http://forward.com/culture/199257/the-inconvenient-truth-about-jews-from-arab-lands/

Once you know the truth, you can recognize the false Arab narrative for what it is, propaganda of hate.

So what your saying is...

"well, they started it, so we'll finish it"?...o_O
 
Laika
What I am saying is that the Arab narrative is a lie. If you wish to believe the lies there is nothing much I can do except to point out the facts.
Jews were ethnically cleansed from Arab lands. Jews were entirely ethnically cleansed from the lands which were illegally occupied by Jordan and Egypt in 1948. The PA and Hamas insist that any lands they control be Judenrein. The even insist that the Jewish Quarter of Old Jerusalem be made Judenrein as the Jordanians did before the city was liberated in 1967. They pretend that this area of Israel's capital is "Arab East Jerusalem". the sad thing is that much of the world is happy to agree with the farce.
 

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Laika
What I am saying is that the Arab narrative is a lie. If you wish to believe the lies there is nothing much I can do except to point out the facts.
Jews were ethnically cleansed from Arab lands. Jews were entirely ethnically cleansed from the lands which were illegally occupied by Jordan and Egypt in 1948. The PA and Hamas insist that any lands they control be Judenrein. The even insist that the Jewish Quarter of Old Jerusalem be made Judenrein as the Jordanians did before the city was liberated in 1967. They pretend that this area of Israel's capital is "Arab East Jerusalem". the sad thing is that much of the world is happy to agree with the farce.

My issue is not the history- its that you seem to be implying a conclusion based on rejecting the lie in the way you have phrased your OP. Being the victim of segregation rather than the perpetrator doesn't make segregation better. that's what I'm getting at.
 

Theweirdtophat

Well-Known Member
There's more to this story. Really I see both sides tend to be at fault. Jews were taken from their land but they also forced Palestians out of their homes as well. Saying it's their land is like saying all Europeans must leave America because it was the Native American's land.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Around 1948 1 million Palestinians driven out of Palestine/Israel, so it goes both ways.
 
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metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Around 1948 I million Palestinians driven out of Palestine?Israel, so it goes both ways.
A great many left on their own accord because they were told to do so by both the Arab political authorities and many of the religious authorities, including the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, who told his people that there was going to be a bloodbath but that they could return after it to get their land plus the land Jews had to vacate.
 

Theweirdtophat

Well-Known Member
Yeah but there were quite a few that were forced out of their homes to live in poverty, their homes were destroyed and many were treated as 2nd class citizens.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
The main inconvenience with your "truth" is that the Arab expulsion of Jews from Arab lands occurred AFTER the massive Arab expulsion from Jewish lands in Palestine, and was in direct reaction to that, inconvenient but true none the less.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Yeah but there were quite a few that were forced out of their homes to live in poverty, their homes were destroyed and many were treated as 2nd class citizens.

By who?
Being told to leave by their fellow Muslims in preparation for an ethnic cleansing from Jews isn't the same as being forced out by the Jews.
Let's face it. There are still tons of Palestinian Muslims in Israel. Jews in Gaza, not so much.
Or Iran or Egypt or Pakistan or...
Well, surely you get the picture.
Tom
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
I call BS on that one, lies lies lies, consider the source!!
 

Shusha

Member
The main inconvenience with your "truth" is that the Arab expulsion of Jews from Arab lands occurred AFTER the massive Arab expulsion from Jewish lands in Palestine, and was in direct reaction to that, inconvenient but true none the less.

The Arabs left or fled the Palestinian Mandate because there was a war going on. A war begun by the Arab armies who invaded Israel. Things like that happen in wars. It sucks all around. But there was no ethnic cleansing of Arabs by Jews at that time. It was an ugly consequence of war.

In very stark contrast, the Jewish people who lived in the Arab countries were NOT in a military conflict with those countries and there was no war in those country's territories. The Jewish people in those countries were systematically mistreated, stripped of their lands and wealth and expelled simply because they were Jews.

There is no moral equivalence here.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
The main inconvenience with your "truth" is that the Arab expulsion of Jews from Arab lands occurred AFTER the massive Arab expulsion from Jewish lands in Palestine, and was in direct reaction to that, inconvenient but true none the less.
This can easily be disproved by the fact that a major factor was the "reaction" to anti-semitism and Europe's refusal to give back the property stolen before and during WW2. And, since the Arab leaders were not only cooperating, but actually aiding and in some cases joining the Germans, so it was, at least somewhat, comparable to how their allies were treated.
 
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