There was never any such place as Eden. The description of Eden is a myth of Creation in the Pentateuch. On myth in the Indus Valley does not justify a Biblical myth of Adam and Eve and the Garden of Eden,
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The Indo-Aryan: Did they ever enter the Indian subcontinent from the outside? Or did these people develop indigenously in the Greater Panjab?
600,000 years ago is earlier than the evidence for humans. There is evidence of humans in Northern Africa, Ethiopia and Israel dating from 315.000 Morocco) to 196,000 BP
Even though there is no reason to believe the mythical Eden of the Pentateuch every existed, I gave a reasonable explanation of the concept of a lost paradise in the stories handed down over the millennia. The ancient world of Northern Africa and the Middle East before post glacial drying of the region resulting vast deserts. was a lost paradise forcing the tribes to migrate to the valleys and work for a living and fight for their valley.
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Not plausible for an Indus Valley Exodus.
This reference gives more in formation concerning the early Neolithic Seroglazovo culture on the Volga basin.Indo-Aryans migrated to India around 4,000 years ago from Afghanistan. As late as in Alexander's time the region was known as Ariana.
Ariana - Wikipedia
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The research covers the evolution of domestic animals and farming from 6690 to 4600 BCE.
The Otzi man showed advanced Chalcolithic culture in Europe
Ötzi - Wikipedia
Ötzi, also called The Iceman, is the natural mummy of a man who lived between 3350 and 3105 BC. Ötzi's remains were discovered on 19 September 1991, in the Ötztal Alps (hence the nickname "Ötzi", German: [œtsi]) at the Austria–Italy border. He is Europe's oldest known natural human mummy, offering an unprecedented view of Chalcolithic (Copper Age) Europeans.
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Too much emphasis is placed on migration and invasion in terms of the human history of Eurasia. Yes these are dominating factors in the early history of the Paleolithic in Eurasia, but trade was a major factor since at least 10,000 BP in the influence on culture and language, Austrian jade tools, weapons and ornaments are common in the British Isles dating from 4,000 BCE. Different cultures of Eurasia communicated when they traded
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The area of the origin of jade is the area around Salzburg where large deposits of salt which was the origin of Celt culture. and trade in salt.
Neolithic Trade: Routes & Techniques | Vaia
Jade axe stays in the UK | National Heritage Memorial Fund
A polished jade axe-head dating from the early Neolithic, found at Newton Peverill in the Stour Valley, will now stay in the UK
The area of the origin of jade is the area around Salzburg where large deposits of salt which was the origin of Celt culture. and trade in salt.
Neolithic Trade: Routes & Techniques | Vaia
Neolithic trade
Neolithic trade, originating around 10,000 BCE during the final phase of the Stone Age, facilitated the exchange of goods such as flint, obsidian, and pottery across emerging communities, crucially promoting cultural and technological advancements. This era witnessed the development of trade routes, enabling early societies to distribute agricultural products and handcrafted items, thereby linking disparate regions and fostering economic growth. As a fundamental pillar of prehistoric civilization, Neolithic trade underscored the importance of social interaction and resource distribution in shaping the foundations of modern commerce.
I reread this post ,and the claim that Isaac and his descendants Moses migrated from India. This is the elephant in the room problem for the argument. There, of course, is no genetic relationship between te Hebrews and Indus Valley except for the common ancient genetic heritage of all Eurasian people as they migrated from the West to the East from Africa to South Asia,
It is a fact that the only and overwhelming evidence is the generic relationship between the Hebrews and the Canaanites, Egyptians, and what is called the Hyksos.
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Where I became lost and really made a mess was when writing 2nd Millennium. Later, I found out why. It's because different areas of earth had different timing when using materials, so that would mean different millenniums in different areas of earth.
I click on pottery in that quote above, and that's an interesting website to see if one gets it correct or not. One picks A. B. C. D. and sees if gets it correct.
Test your knowledge with multiple choice flashcards
What is a primary reason pottery is crucial in archaeology?
A. Pottery provides linguistic evidence of ancient civilizations.
B. Pottery helps date archaeological sites due to changing styles over time.
C. Pottery offers precise geographic coordinates of historic events.
D. Pottery directly indicates ancient population sizes.
Which scientific method is used in pottery analysis for chronological data?
A. Thermoluminescence dating measures the last heating time.
B. Carbon dating calculates the pottery's carbon content.
C. Dendrochronology examines tree rings found in pottery.
D. Radiometric dating estimates clay's radiation levels.
How does pottery serve as a dating tool for archaeological sites?
A. Pottery aids in dating through typology, seriation, and thermoluminescence.
B. Chronological dating of pottery is based solely on its color and weight.
C. Pottery is dated primarily by comparing it to ancient texts.
D. Pottery dating relies on carbon-14 dating and astrology.
Pottery: Archaeological Ceramics & Analysis | Vaia
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This is a bit confusing, Yes, different cultures evolves as somewhat different times, but they all evolved more or less uniformly influenced by trade of goods and technologies,
I click on pottery in that quote above, and that's an interesting website to see if one gets it correct or not. One picks A. B. C. D. and sees if gets it correct.
Test your knowledge with multiple choice flashcards
What is a primary reason pottery is crucial in archaeology?
A. Pottery provides linguistic evidence of ancient civilizations.
B. Pottery helps date archaeological sites due to changing styles over time.
C. Pottery offers precise geographic coordinates of historic events.
D. Pottery directly indicates ancient population sizes.
Which scientific method is used in pottery analysis for chronological data?
A. Thermoluminescence dating measures the last heating time.
B. Carbon dating calculates the pottery's carbon content.
C. Dendrochronology examines tree rings found in pottery.
D. Radiometric dating estimates clay's radiation levels.
How does pottery serve as a dating tool for archaeological sites?
A. Pottery aids in dating through typology, seriation, and thermoluminescence.
B. Chronological dating of pottery is based solely on its color and weight.
C. Pottery is dated primarily by comparing it to ancient texts.
D. Pottery dating relies on carbon-14 dating and astrology.
Pottery: Archaeological Ceramics & Analysis | Vaia
Pottery: ✓ Archaeological Ceramics ✓ Pottery Analysis ✓ Ancient Pottery ✓ VaiaOriginal!
The above is correct and how archeologists date cultures and the volution of Neolithic cultures over time and compare with other dating methods, These methods are sed to show the evolution of the Neolithic cultures of the Levant, beginning with the first use of ottery to the evolution of distinctive styles and uses of poetry uo through the Bronze Age,
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There have been thousands of Edens in the world before and after the glacial meltdown. There was one in which the PIE lived, Airyanem Vaejah.
We can find them in all continents. In India, we have an Edens in Himalayas and Kerala. Why restrict Eden to just Middle East?
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To clarify I do not restrict the stories and mythology of the lost Eden to the Middle East. Climate Change after the last Glacial Age dried out the whole Mesic region around the world including the Americas resulting in migrations and even the end of some cultures and empires. I would not agree there were thousands, but different cultures, tribes, and empires experienced there lose of Eden at different times and degrees with catastrophic droughts,
An interesting exchange between cultures and the origins of agriculture is the documented trade in seeds across Eurasia.
Summary:
The Neolithic period saw the spread of agriculture and the exchange of seeds and other goods through trade:
- Trade of seeds
Neolithic people traded seeds and other goods through barter, with the value of an item determined by what another person was willing to give up for it. For example, archaeological evidence from the Tibetan Plateau suggests that local foragers traded with farmers for millet.
Spread of agriculture
The spread of agriculture was aided by trade, word of mouth, and conflict. Agricultural societies had a more reliable food supply than hunter-gatherers, which gave them an advantage in conflicts. - Domestication of plants
Different regions domesticated different plants. For example, in Ethiopia, sorghum was one of the first domesticated crops, while in Asia, rice and millet were grown. In the Fertile Crescent, wheat was bred to stay on the stem for easier harvesting.
- Domestication of animals
Neolithic people domesticated animals that they had previously hunted for meat, such as pigs from wild boars and goats from the Persian ibex. Domesticated animals helped with farming and provided meat and milk.
More references may follow . .
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GoodAttention
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Time is always the same, but different areas of the earth and their populations would have been going through different developments.
I click on pottery in that quote above, and that's an interesting website to see if one gets it correct or not. One picks A. B. C. D. and sees if gets it correct.
Test your knowledge with multiple choice flashcards
What is a primary reason pottery is crucial in archaeology?
A. Pottery provides linguistic evidence of ancient civilizations.
B. Pottery helps date archaeological sites due to changing styles over time.
C. Pottery offers precise geographic coordinates of historic events.
D. Pottery directly indicates ancient population sizes.
Which scientific method is used in pottery analysis for chronological data?
A. Thermoluminescence dating measures the last heating time.
B. Carbon dating calculates the pottery's carbon content.
C. Dendrochronology examines tree rings found in pottery.
D. Radiometric dating estimates clay's radiation levels.
How does pottery serve as a dating tool for archaeological sites?
A. Pottery aids in dating through typology, seriation, and thermoluminescence.
B. Chronological dating of pottery is based solely on its color and weight.
C. Pottery is dated primarily by comparing it to ancient texts.
D. Pottery dating relies on carbon-14 dating and astrology.
Pottery: Archaeological Ceramics & Analysis | Vaia
Pottery: ✓ Archaeological Ceramics ✓ Pottery Analysis ✓ Ancient Pottery ✓ VaiaOriginal!