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The Ineffable or Holy Name and Tao

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
The tao that can be named is not the enduring and becoming because it implies that it is forever transforming? changing? because in being named it becomes conditional, a fixed form, delimited, and it's essence is unconditional?
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
No it can't be named because you can only name it wrong.
because it is an enduring action and not a fixed form that requires contrast so the yin-yang then best represents this idea of rising/falling, black/white, with the potential for contrast within each for the other? the lingam and yoni could also be representative of this idea?



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Jumi

Well-Known Member
because it is an enduring action and not a fixed form that requires contrast so the yin-yang then best represents this idea of rising/falling, black/white, with the potential for contrast within each for the other?
You are mixing it with the yin and yang. Not even the wuji describes the tao.

the lingam and yoni could also be representative of this idea?
That yin-yang symbol was made much later than the Lao-tze book that contains the quote.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
You are mixing it with the yin and yang. Not even the wuji describes the tao.


That yin-yang symbol was made much later than the Lao-tze book that contains the quote.

true but just as the tao te ching can't describe it, it gives the seeker the idea that it is everywhere and no where. this helps the mind to become unconditional, love to becoming unconditional, body becoming unconditional. the symbol could be used as an icon on which to meditate? the contrast has a third wholistic view; when understood beyond contrast?

Ever desireless, one can see the mystery.
Ever desiring, one sees the manifestations.
These two spring from the same source but differ in name; this appears as darkness.
Darkness within darkness.
The gate to all mystery. - dao


like lovers chasing one another, forever yoked together as ONE.

it is peculiar, magical, enrapturing, warming/cooling, reflecting/mirroring.
 
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PureX

Veteran Member
The tao that can be named is not the enduring and becoming because it implies that it is forever transforming? changing? because in being named it becomes conditional, a fixed form, delimited, and it's essence is unconditional?
No, it's because when we place a name on something we fool ourselves into thinking that we now 'own it' with our minds. We think we have comprehended it, intellectually, when that is not possible.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
No, it's because when we place a name on something we fool ourselves into thinking that we now 'own it' with our minds. We think we have comprehended it, intellectually, when that is not possible.

so it owns us? invades us?

I AM the chosen ONE.





the show must go on. tittering.
 
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Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
"Tao" simply means "way". As in the 'way of being'. Or the way that existence exists.

So it includes us.
if friendship is with us, how can anyone be against love? there is no greater love in all the world than that of a friend, selfless who stops and rests from life's journey with another wayfaring stranger..


Matthew 8:20
And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.


thank you for sharing your cup of life and hope you have a peace(love) filled day.



 
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Treks

Well-Known Member
Could it also be the problem that when we name something we firmly establish it's "otherness" in relation to our ego-selves, which is counterproductive to Oneness?
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Could it also be the problem that when we name something we firmly establish it's "otherness" in relation to our ego-selves, which is counterproductive to Oneness?
when you establish form as preferred to action it does.


John 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.


otherness to love is known by it's fruit in relation to god.


John 7:24
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
 
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