Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
The Nazis weren't exactly saying that either.
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The Iowa Caucuses
- Thread starter Jayhawker Soule
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Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Then why are they supporting them and voting for them? Why are the top runners for their party fascist?
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
IMO, it's likely that he feeds their hate and bigotry, and also that so many Americans are highly materialistic.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
You still can't recognize a joke. He said no he isn't going to be a dictator. ... Why don't you continue with that half completely falsified sentence that ends with, "except for day one". "Drill drill drill"..... Followed by notable laughter.
Clearly a joke.
Here's what Trump actually said.
Yes folks. A joke.
I think you give them too much credit
for envisioning just what Trump intends.
Unbelievable. Any lame silly ridiculous excuse to defend your cheeto faced god.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
No. Just your lame ability to recognize a joke.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The Constitution hasn't limited any politician before.
Why stop with Trump?
Besides, that would never happen anyways without a constitutional convention to change the rules.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Patently false as many court cases have stopped political leaders in their tracks. Just look at the effect of the demise of Roe v Wade as an example.
If a court ruling is ignored and/or not enforced by the Executive Branch, it's d.o.a. as the SCOTUS has no enforcement power of its own.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Colorado. Self explanatory. Obviously the Constitution hasn't stopped those people in their tracks.
I'm not commenting further as there are plenty of threads that go into far more detail.
They don't know any better.
They're blinded by the cult.
At least it's so with ones I know.
But I'll wager that Christian Nationalists
really do want fascism...the Christian kind.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Because the current administration has enforced these decisions or would be expected to. Trump already has stated that the Constitution does not bind him, and even when president he said that the Constitution allows him to do anything.
Maybe listen to some Pubs who are deathly afraid that our democracy could end with Trump.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Won't ever happen. The Constitution is too big even for Trump.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
It's just a piece of paper if not enforced.
As an expert on Constitutional history in the U.S., could you please explain to us why Nixon needed a pardon?
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
No joke.
Hannity even tried to give him an out.
Trump didn't take it.
It wasn't a joke. Nice try.
Not even slightly funny.
Trump handouts of socialism:
President Donald J. Trump Is Providing Economic Relief to ...
National Archives | (.gov)
https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov › president-dona...
TrumpOnomics
We all remember, Trump’s one term was chaotic: sexual assault accusations, fascination with dictators, love of racists, COVID rubbish like bleach and UV lights, COVFEFE??, “my button is bigger” and on and on. But America’s white evangelical Christians largely stood firmly by his side, because, like King Cyrus in the Bible, he was an “imperfect vessel” used by God for a greater good – saving America. Or rather, making it great again.
How was he to save America? Well, by handing political and cultural power back to white conservative Christians, who had watched in horror as the United States became more diverse and less religious.
Trump’s favorability with white evangelicals has hovered at around 70% since 2016, even as an Access Hollywood tape emerged showing Trump bragging about sexually assaulting women, even as he failed to denounce white supremacists who had rallied in Charlottesville, and even when the story of hush money payments to Stormy Daniels first broke, in 2018. None of it made any difference. In the 2020 presidential election, 75% of white evangelicals voted for Trump – hardly a huge drop-off from the 81% who pledged for him in 2016. They “held their noses” and voted for him, and in return got conservative supreme court justices who could, and did, overturn the Roe v Wade decision, removing women’s constitutional right to abortion in the US.
Yes, that was good, but not really what they really support him for. Remember, in his 2016 election campaign, he was railing against Muslims and immigrants much more than he was railing against abortion. He talked of building the wall to keep Mexican immigrants out. He was going to ban travel from Muslim countries. That’s what appealed to the white evangelicals most. That he was going to protect their view of the country.
For decades, white Christians made up a majority of Americans, enjoying the influence that majority allowed – politicians were nearly always white and Christian, as were most top business leaders.
But their numbers began to decline through the 1990s, and by 2017, only 43% of the population identified as non-Hispanic white and Christian, and only 30% as non-Hispanic white and Protestant. That sense of decline and of waning control over the country, as white evangelicals watched a black man elected president in 2008 and same-sex marriage be legalized, continues to contribute to Trump’s support among white evangelicals.
How did a libertine who lacks even the most basic knowledge of the Christian faith win 81 percent of the white evangelical vote in 2016? And why have white evangelicals become a presidential reprobate’s staunchest supporters, as in Iowa? I think we know the answer, now. And those voters would sooner turf their own spiritual leaders than give up on Donald Trump giving them back their birthright to run the country according to their own lights.
How was he to save America? Well, by handing political and cultural power back to white conservative Christians, who had watched in horror as the United States became more diverse and less religious.
Trump’s favorability with white evangelicals has hovered at around 70% since 2016, even as an Access Hollywood tape emerged showing Trump bragging about sexually assaulting women, even as he failed to denounce white supremacists who had rallied in Charlottesville, and even when the story of hush money payments to Stormy Daniels first broke, in 2018. None of it made any difference. In the 2020 presidential election, 75% of white evangelicals voted for Trump – hardly a huge drop-off from the 81% who pledged for him in 2016. They “held their noses” and voted for him, and in return got conservative supreme court justices who could, and did, overturn the Roe v Wade decision, removing women’s constitutional right to abortion in the US.
Yes, that was good, but not really what they really support him for. Remember, in his 2016 election campaign, he was railing against Muslims and immigrants much more than he was railing against abortion. He talked of building the wall to keep Mexican immigrants out. He was going to ban travel from Muslim countries. That’s what appealed to the white evangelicals most. That he was going to protect their view of the country.
For decades, white Christians made up a majority of Americans, enjoying the influence that majority allowed – politicians were nearly always white and Christian, as were most top business leaders.
But their numbers began to decline through the 1990s, and by 2017, only 43% of the population identified as non-Hispanic white and Christian, and only 30% as non-Hispanic white and Protestant. That sense of decline and of waning control over the country, as white evangelicals watched a black man elected president in 2008 and same-sex marriage be legalized, continues to contribute to Trump’s support among white evangelicals.
How did a libertine who lacks even the most basic knowledge of the Christian faith win 81 percent of the white evangelical vote in 2016? And why have white evangelicals become a presidential reprobate’s staunchest supporters, as in Iowa? I think we know the answer, now. And those voters would sooner turf their own spiritual leaders than give up on Donald Trump giving them back their birthright to run the country according to their own lights.
Rank ignorance is an ideal petrie dish for white grievance politics.