BilliardsBall
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God grants man free will to trust or reject Jesus, and His atoning death and resurrection. You have it within you to trust Jesus.
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"The kingdom of God is within you"
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God grants man free will to trust or reject Jesus, and His atoning death and resurrection. You have it within you to trust Jesus.
Is that true? Whoever gave you that information? Show me in the written Word of God where that is true.
Ezekiel 18:23
Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign LORD. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?
Ezekiel 18:32
For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent and live!
John 3:17
For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
1 Timothy 4:10
That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe.
Titus 2:11
For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
1 Timothy 2:4
who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.
1 Timothy 2:4
who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth
(Hebrews 10:26-31) “If, after we have been given knowledge of the truth, we should deliberately commit any sins, then there is no longer any sacrifice for them. There is left only the dreadful prospect of judgment and of the fiery wrath that is to devour your enemies--------“
People who have come to the knowledge of the truth no longer sin.
(1 John 3:9) “No one who has been begotten by God sins; because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God.”
They no longer sin deliberately or if they do they don't endure to their end.
And if one does not come to the knowledge of the truth then the Word of God that Jesus gave will be their judge on the last day.
(John 12:47-48) “If anyone hears my words and does not keep them faithfully, it is not I who shall condemn him, since I have come not to condemn the world, but to save the world: he who rejects me and refuses my words has his judge already: the word itself that I have spoken will be his judge on the last day.”
BilliardsBall
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Is which true, please? Free will? That we are saved by trusting in Jesus? Or that a person who has received the Spirit's conviction to become saved has it within them now to respond and be saved?
Thanks.
It means you are not exempt from being in the Kingdom, right now. You are not separate from God.
Something like that, yes.
Please notice who Jesus is talking to at Luke 17:20,21. Jesus is addressing enemy Pharisees.
It is Not until verse 22 ( after Jesus concludes what he says to the hate-filled Pharisees ) then Jesus addresses his disciples.
Jesus was so close standing 'within' range of the Pharisees, Jesus was 'within' their reach.
Please also notice Mark 7:23 because what was ' within ' could defile a person.
It is at Luke 19:11-15 where Jesus explains that God's kingdom would Not instantly or immediately appear at that time frame but distant future.
Just as the Kingdom of England is a real government
Just as the Kingdom of Jordan is a real government
Just as the Kingdom of God then is a real government - see Daniel 2:44; 7:13,14
Jesus told us who would come to heaven with him, and it is not those who believe he came to save those who just say they believe in him.
To be in Jesus one can’t sin. So how can a sinner be believing in Jesus?
(1 John 2:6) “But if anyone obeys his word, God’s love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did”
The following verse tells us who will go to heaven.
(Matthew 7:21-23) “It is not those who say to me, ‘Lord, Lord’, who will enter the kingdom of Heaven but the person who does the will of My Father in Heaven. When the day comes many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, cast out demons in your name, work many miracles in your name?’ Then I shall tell them to their faces: I have never known you; away from me, you evil men!”
Yes Jesus said those who do the will of the Father in Heaven will go with him.
A sinner will never enter the kingdom of God.
(1 Corinthians 6:9-19) “You know perfectly well that people who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God: people of immoral lives, idolaters, adulterers, catamites, sodomites, thieves, usurers, drunkards, slanders and swindlers will never inherit the kingdom of God.”
Please explain what this means. What sin can't a person do?
Let us start with any wrongdoing that one knows is wrong and deliberately commits.
Such a sin leads to death.
(1 John 5: 16) “If anybody sees his brother commit a sin that is not a deadly sin, he has only to pray, and God will give life to the simmer - not those who commit a deadly sin; for there is a sin that is death, and I will not say that you must pray about that. Every kind of wrongdoing is sin, but not all sin is deadly.
Hebrews explains a sin that leads to death.
(Hebrews 10:26-31) “If, after we have been given knowledge of the truth, we should deliberately commit any sins, then there is no longer any sacrifice for them. There is left only the dreadful prospect of judgment and of the fiery wrath that is to devour your enemies. -------------“
The Holy Spirit made sure we would understand just how important it is for one who knows God not to sin.
Acts 5:1-11) The Fraud of Ananias and Sapphira. Their sin was a lie.
Such a sin leads to death.
(1 John 5: 16) “If anybody sees his brother commit a sin that is not a deadly sin, he has only to pray, and God will give life to the simmer - not those who commit a deadly sin; for there is a sin that is death, and I will not say that you must pray about that. Every kind of wrongdoing is sin, but not all sin is deadly.
Hebrews explains a sin that leads to death.
(Hebrews 10:26-31) “If, after we have been given knowledge of the truth, we should deliberately commit any sins, then there is no longer any sacrifice for them. There is left only the dreadful prospect of judgment and of the fiery wrath that is to devour your enemies. -------------“
The Holy Spirit made sure we would understand just how important it is for one who knows God not to sin.
Acts 5:1-11) The Fraud of Ananias and Sapphira. Their sin was a lie.
Is your answer this?
To be in Jesus one can’t sin a sin that leads to death.
I understand "sin" means to do the wrong thing which many times is done by mistake.You say "to be in Jesus one can't sin". I am sorry you didn't answer my question. Did you?
My question is what sin can't a person do if the person is "in Jesus"?
Any wrongdoing that a person knows is wrong, and deliberately does.
God makes sure that a person who he has made a home in knows what a wrongdoing is, and protects such a person from doing any wrongdoing.
(John 14: 23) “Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.”
Keeping God’s Word includes not sinning.
God makes sure that a person who he has made a home in knows what a wrongdoing is, and protects such a person from doing any wrongdoing.
(John 14: 23) “Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.”
Keeping God’s Word includes not sinning.
God's word say that anyone saying "I have no sin" is lying. But you say to be with Jesus means having no sin.
I finish the food on my plate even when I know I have eaten enough. I know it is wrong, but I do it! I am sinning. It is not possible to live and not sin ever.
I use plastic throw away bags but I know it is wrong. I drive a car. It is wrong. I watch TV. It is wrong. I waste time on forum. It is wrong. So? I am not with Jesus?
I use plastic throw away bags but I know it is wrong. I drive a car. It is wrong. I watch TV. It is wrong. I waste time on forum. It is wrong. So? I am not with Jesus?
You have a problem don’t you?
Have you ever allowed the Holy Spirit to guide you?
God will tell one what is the right thing to do and will give him or her the grace to do the right thing.
All one has to do is obey God.
How can God tell me what to do if I sin and when I sin I am not in Jesus? Your words are illogical. Is God illogical?
It is a sin that when someone (you) have a problem you say it is not your problem it is my problem.
Your problem (which is not my problem) is God's word says he who says "I sin not" is lying but you say to be with Jesus a person can't sin. Do you see it? It is a problem but not my problem.
I didn't say I do not have a problem. I shall tell you my problem. I know how to reason in an unreasoning world and I don't know how to find a place where other people can reason.