The Kingdom of Yahweh

[Sheldon]

In terms of Matthew being an anonymous apologist, since the times of the early 'church fathers', the apostle Matthew has always been accredited with the authorship of the first gospel (canonically).

The original gospels were unauthored, the names were added centuries later, probably in an attempt to lend them more credence. What people believed when they falsely made this claim is irrelevant to the fact, that they were anonymous.

Beyond the crucifixion it's all hearsay, as there is no independent corroborating evidence.

 

[exchemist]

Hi exchemist. Good afternoon. I've been reading the Bible for years and I haven't found the inconsistencies and contradictions you are talking about. The Bible is relevant to us. Every scripture Yahweh breathed is profitable to us in some way we read in 2 Timothy 3:16. They're Yahweh's thoughts. Yahweh's will. By eating of the book (Revelation 10:9) we can become more like Yahweh. It's either that or believing in lies. And that I would think should be avoided at all costs.

I did say that anyone who has been taught to think critically would find these things. Obviously people who can't think critically, or who choose to suppress that faculty, may not see them.

I did not say, nor did I mean to say, that the bible is not relevant to us. My point is that it needs interpretation before its messages for us today can be discerned. So just reading it, as you seemed to be advocating, is not sufficient. (That is one reason why the main Christian churches have clergy and why they so often preach sermons on Sunday about the meaning of the bible readings for the day.)

As for "lies", who determines what is truth and what are lies? To take one well-known example, are we to believe that Man was created before or after the animals? The first two chapters are in disagreement on this.

To take another, who says that we should eat a scroll, as Revelation puts it? You yourself have interpreted that to mean, not that we should actually eat paper or papyrus, but in some way take on board the messages of the bible. So you see it as some kind of metaphor. On what basis do you decide this verse is a metaphor while others are to be taken literally? (I've remarked before that Revelation reads like an old man's acid trip. This seems to have been truer than I thought, in that it gave him a sour stomach, apparently.)

 

[Dogknox20]

Hi Dogknow20. Good morning. The Catholic Church has been guilty of some heinous sins against other religions: torture, false accusations, persecutions...and their priests have been guilty of molesting their adherents, engaging in pornography etc. If they had stuck to the Bible they wouldn't have had these problems. The scripture is the Word of Yahweh. Those Ch-rches that don't use it are often tickling people's ears, giving them cheese and crackers religion and what the people want to hear instead of strongly preaching the Word. Is the Ch-rch greater than the Word of Yahweh? No it isn't. The Word of Yahweh is what should be our foundation. As a matter of fact, Yahshua was the Word made flesh. His life was an perfect embodiment of the Word we read in the Bible. Too many people think the Word is no longer relevant, however, it is more relevant in this time of history than at any other time, us being in the end times.

What did Yahshua say in John 5:39? "Ye search the scriptures, because ye think that in them ye have eternal life; and these are they which bear witness of me"

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Christians believe "Jesus is God"!
Christians believe in ONE God!

God the father is spirit..
God the Word is spirit..
God the Holy Spirit is Spirit...

Messianic Israelite God the Word became flesh and lived among men!
14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us.
&
18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.


Messianic Israelite All your accusations fall back on you and all other institutions of men! Just today in the news they are investigating Southern Baptist's for child molestations! The Catholic Church is jam packed to the rafters with sinners! Jesus came to save the sinner! For you to say what you do "I must assume you feel you are sinless!

 

[Messianic Israelite]

I have found the opposite to be true, the more I read the less believable it became.

Hi Sheldon. Good morning. Really? I think if you truly don't want to believe it, you'll automatically begin putting blocks in your mind. If your heart is right, when the water comes in to the heart, it should produce fruit. Matthew 13 says: "A farmer went out to sow his seed. 4 As he was scattering the seed, some fell along the path, and the birds came and ate it up. 5 Some fell on rocky places, where it did not have much soil. It sprang up quickly, because the soil was shallow. 6 But when the sun came up, the plants were scorched, and they withered because they had no root. 7 Other seed fell among thorns, which grew up and choked the plants. 8 Still other seed fell on good soil, where it produced a crop—a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown. 9 Whoever has ears, let them hear.” The good soil Yahshua later explains to be the heart, which is prepared to receive the Word.

Some people feel they are at a point in their life when they don't need the Word. Sometimes Yahweh has to bring us down with some form of distress or persecution for us to start being receptive to the Word of Yahweh. The parable of the sower proves that the environment that the seed is sown in is paramount to us bearing the fruit, in other words applying the Word and producing action, from the Word. If you approach the Word as a scoffer, it will hardly be able to penetrate your heart and mind. Proverbs 14:6 says: "A scoffer seeketh wisdom, and findeth it not; But knowledge is easy unto him that hath understanding." Humility is key.

It's like going in to an interview with the opinion that you will not get the job. The likelihood is that attitude will reflect in your answers and you diminish the chances for you getting the job. Although I always encourage people to read the Bible, I recognise that everyone's heart is different. Some people will need more work than others to prepare their heart, just as the ground is prepared and ploughed before the seed is sowed upon it.

 

[Messianic Israelite]

I did say that anyone who has been taught to think critically would find these things. Obviously people who can't think critically, or who choose to suppress that faculty, may not see them.

I did not say, nor did I mean to say, that the bible is not relevant to us. My point is that it needs interpretation before its messages for us today can be discerned. So just reading it, as you seemed to be advocating, is not sufficient. (That is one reason why the main Christian churches have clergy and why they so often preach sermons on Sunday about the meaning of the bible readings for the day.)

As for "lies", who determines what is truth and what are lies? To take one well-known example, are we to believe that Man was created before or after the animals? The first two chapters are in disagreement on this.

To take another, who says that we should eat a scroll, as Revelation puts it? You yourself have interpreted that to mean, not that we should actually eat paper or papyrus, but in some way take on board the messages of the bible. So you see it as some kind of metaphor. On what basis do you decide this verse is a metaphor while others are to be taken literally? (I've remarked before that Revelation reads like an old man's acid trip. This seems to have been truer than I thought, in that it gave him a sour stomach, apparently.)

Hi exchemist. Good morning. Your point about the Bible needing interpretation before its messages for us today can be discerned, well, the Biblical accounts happened, and we can take them literally. When we interpret literally it doesn't require vast amounts of interpretation. If I said 'I went to the shops today', I meant just that, that I went to the shops on this day. If someone came along and began interpreting everything I said, saying the shops represent a hotel, and today represents eternity, you can imagine I wouldn't be happy that someone had reinterpreted a plain statement that I had said and made it in to, essentially, a lie. The reason why the Bible can be read by the average man and woman and understood is because we are to take the teachings of the sacred Scriptures and interpret them as literally as possible. If this wasn't the case, then no-one would be able to understand the Bible. Everyone would have his or her idea about what certain scriptures mean and it wouldn't profit anyone. This is why even when I was a child I could read the Bible and understand it. I didn't need someone to explain everything. In saying that, they are certainly many things we need to be educated on which means we need to insight of someone who has studied the Hebrew and the Greek texts, and further they are deeper interpretations to the Word that can be found. However, with the tools at our disposal, Strong's concordance and Bible dictionaries, it is easier for the average man and woman to study the Bible and be able to understand it. But I know what you are getting at. If I want to delve in the strong meat of the Word, I listen to sermons and I'm sure that's the same for many of at least my faith anyway.

In terms of the scripture in Revelation 10:10 when John takes the book or scroll and eats it, the scriptures interpret themselves. Proverbs 16:24 says "Pleasant words are as a honeycomb, Sweet to the soul, and health to the bones." Thus, honey represents the Word of Yahweh. They are no more pleasant words than the glad tidings of Yahshua: forgiveness of sins to all who desire it and freedom from death eternally. In Revelation 10:10 it says the book was as sweet as honey in his mouth. You could try actually eating a Bible book, or scroll, but I think logically we know that it wouldn't taste so good! John did eat a book, but it wasn't a book as we know it to be. It was edible. But this was a visual lesson that Yahweh wanted to convey to His people about eating or absorbing the Word of Yahweh.

 

[Messianic Israelite]

.
Christians believe "Jesus is God"!
Christians believe in ONE God!

God the father is spirit..
God the Word is spirit..
God the Holy Spirit is Spirit...

Messianic Israelite God the Word became flesh and lived among men!
14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us.
&
18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.


Messianic Israelite All your accusations fall back on you and all other institutions of men! Just today in the news they are investigating Southern Baptist's for child molestations! The Catholic Church is jam packed to the rafters with sinners! Jesus came to save the sinner! For you to say what you do "I must assume you feel you are sinless!

Hi dogknox20. Good afternoon. Yahshua was Yahweh's Son and Yahshua sits on the right hand side of Yahweh meaning he is not Yahweh. He doesn't sit in Yahweh's throne. He has his own throne. Yahshua was the Word, the Spokesman that spoke for Yahweh in the Hebrew Scriptures. John 5:37 says: "And the Father that sent me, he hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard [Yahweh's] voice at any time, nor seen his form." Do you agree that Yahshua pre-existed with the Father? If so, you'll recognise that Yahshua represented Yahweh, and had dealings with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and the Israelites and is called the Angel of Yahweh at various places. He spoke for Yahweh. He was the Word. If Chr-stians used the more accurate Hebrew term 'Elohim' instead of 'G-d' they would have a better appreciation of what the Word says regarding the relationship between the Father and the Son.

It will be truly a shame if it's true that the Southern Baptist's are being investigated for child molestations. I don't see how supposing religious people, these are supposed to be spiritual people who have been enlightened by the Word of Yahweh, could do such as evil thing as to molest children. I am ashamed of these wicked people. Yahshua spoke of those who should cause the little children to stumble and he spoke sternly against them (Matthew 18:6). However, pointing out another religious organisation that may be guilty of the same thing doesn't take away the fact that the RCC is guilty of molesting possibly upwards of 216,000 children and much of this was covered up. It's still being covered up.

.For you to say what you do "I must assume you feel you are sinless!

John says "If we say that we have fellowship with him and walk in the darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: 7 but if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Yahshua his Son cleanseth us from all sin. 8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."

All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of Yahweh we read in the Bible. However, we should be overcoming sin. Not repeating the same mistakes we made before we were baptised.

 

[exchemist]

Hi exchemist. Good morning. Your point about the Bible needing interpretation before its messages for us today can be discerned, well, the Biblical accounts happened, and we can take them literally. When we interpret literally it doesn't require vast amounts of interpretation. If I said 'I went to the shops today', I meant just that, that I went to the shops on this day. If someone came along and began interpreting everything I said, saying the shops represent a hotel, and today represents eternity, you can imagine I wouldn't be happy that someone had reinterpreted a plain statement that I had said and made it in to, essentially, a lie. The reason why the Bible can be read by the average man and woman and understood is because we are to take the teachings of the sacred Scriptures and interpret them as literally as possible. If this wasn't the case, then no-one would be able to understand the Bible. Everyone would have his or her idea about what certain scriptures mean and it wouldn't profit anyone. This is why even when I was a child I could read the Bible and understand it. I didn't need someone to explain everything. In saying that, they are certainly many things we need to be educated on which means we need to insight of someone who has studied the Hebrew and the Greek texts, and further they are deeper interpretations to the Word that can be found. However, with the tools at our disposal, Strong's concordance and Bible dictionaries, it is easier for the average man and woman to study the Bible and be able to understand it. But I know what you are getting at. If I want to delve in the strong meat of the Word, I listen to sermons and I'm sure that's the same for many of at least my faith anyway.

In terms of the scripture in Revelation 10:10 when John takes the book or scroll and eats it, the scriptures interpret themselves. Proverbs 16:24 says "Pleasant words are as a honeycomb, Sweet to the soul, and health to the bones." Thus, honey represents the Word of Yahweh. They are no more pleasant words than the glad tidings of Yahshua: forgiveness of sins to all who desire it and freedom from death eternally. In Revelation 10:10 it says the book was as sweet as honey in his mouth. You could try actually eating a Bible book, or scroll, but I think logically we know that it wouldn't taste so good! John did eat a book, but it wasn't a book as we know it to be. It was edible. But this was a visual lesson that Yahweh wanted to convey to His people about eating or absorbing the Word of Yahweh.

Good, so the stuff in Revelation is a metaphor because it can't make sense if taken literally, is that it? That seems fair enough.

What about the contradiction between the first 2 chapters of Genesis?

 

[metis]

Hi metis. Good morning. Much of those 613 commandments relate to the sacrificial law, which Yahshua our Savior fulfilled through his perfect life, shedding his perfect blood for our sins. He was the perfect sacrifice, "In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness" (Hebrews 9:22).

Hebrews 10:4 says: "For it is impossible that the blood of bulls and goats should take away our sins. 5 Therefore when he comes into the world, he says, Sacrifice and offerings you would not want, But a body did you prepare for me; 6 In whole burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin you had no pleasure". However, the rest of the commandments which are applicable we keep. We still keep spiritual sacrifices through the praises of our lips (Hebrews 13:15).

My point is that when you say "law", this is understood as being Jewish Law, thus the 613 Commandments, and these are binding on all Jews but not on Gentiles. Jesus take on the Law was not altogether different from Hillel the Elder's take but did go further.

 

[metis]

When we interpret literally it doesn't require vast amounts of interpretation.

That's not how Jewish writings and interpretation works as there's so many symbolic, allegorical, and metaphors used. The early Church dealt with this issue, and we generally know where coming from on much of this.

OTOH, the concept of inerrancy only goes back to the 1800's within some Protestant circles.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

Perhaps one should devote less time to endless philosophical discussions, and simply read the Bible.

Reading scripture is experience God is like saying reading the manual will give you experience as a driver.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

We have to live a life of perfection, in a world which isn't perfect. We have to prove to Yahweh we don’t hate him, which we do when we sin, but that we love Him (1 John 5:3

And at any time God can smite you anyway. Ask Job.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

It will be truly a shame if it's true that the Southern Baptist's are being investigated for child molestations. I don't see how supposing religious people, these are supposed to be spiritual people who have been enlightened by the Word of Yahweh, could do such as evil thing as to molest children. I am ashamed of these wicked people.

The supporters used the Bible.

 

[Sheldon]

Hi Sheldon. Good morning. Really? I think if you truly don't want to believe it, you'll automatically begin putting blocks in your mind.

Why would you make up such a silly straw man? I don't believe it because of it's erroneous and silly unevidenced superstitious claims, what I want doesn't enter into it.

If your heart is right,

No true Scotsman fallacy. I don't think or reason with my heart. Nor does anyone come to that.

The parable of the sower proves that the environment that the seed is sown in is paramount to us bearing the fruit,

No it doesn't, it merely implies it, so what? To me this simply means it's easier to indoctrinate some than others, those who lack critical thinking, or who are are suggestible and biased are going to be easier to convince, obviously.

I always encourage people to read the Bible,

Me too, it's virtually guaranteed to lead to atheism more than any book I know.

"This is what the LORD Almighty says: `I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'"

Some people will need more work than others to prepare their heart,

Some people are more gullible, less able to think critically, and to be fair have been indoctrinated from birth, or need the crutch of superstition, that others do not.

 

[Goldemar]

Another post I decided on writing on the spur of the moment today. I couldn’t help but shake my head at the amount of disbelief I have found on what should be a religious forum regarding the Bible. Constantly people are questioning the Biblical message and coming up with their own ideas regarding eternal life and what they have to do to be saved. One of the main ways to instil belief in one mind regarding the veracity of the Bible is to read it. “Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word about the Messiah.” (Romans 10:17)

Perhaps one should devote less time to endless philosophical discussions, and simply read the Bible. In the book of Acts, Paul was confronted with the same problem: “20 For thou bringest certain strange things to our ears: we would know therefore what these things mean. 21 (Now all the Athenians and the strangers sojourning there a]">[a]spent their time in nothing else, but either to tell or to hear some new thing.) 22 And Paul stood in the midst of the Areopagus, and said, Ye men of Athens, in all things I perceive that ye are b]">[b]very religious.” The people of Athens enjoyed such discussions, but did this make a change in their life? Hardly. However, the title of this thread, the Kingdom of Yahweh, makes all the difference. Do we want to be there? Do we believe in a Kingdom? A world without suffering, pain and evil? A heavenly world ruled by beings of light? A world where Yahweh’s Law will be kept. I believe in the Kingdom and I believe in the Word which describes it.

Right now, they are a lot of threads on the subject of why is there suffering in the world. The people that write these threads seem to forget of the world to come, when every tear will be wiped away. Revelation 21:4 says: “and he shall wipe away every tear from their eyes; and death shall be no more; neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain, any more: the first things are passed away.” But in order to make it in to that kingdom, we have to be obedient to Yahweh’s commandments now, in a world where suffering is evident. We have to live a life of perfection, in a world which isn't perfect. We have to prove to Yahweh we don’t hate him, which we do when we sin, but that we love Him (1 John 5:3). Just because people suffer in this life, doesn’t mean they’ll be denied entrance in to the Kingdom. The mention of Lazarus and the Rich Man by Yahshua my Savior proves this (Luke 16:19-31). Lazarus suffered immensely, but he was obedient to Yahweh and in eternity, he will have a good understanding of suffering and so be able to help others.

Matthew 6:33 says: “But seek ye first his kingdom, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.”

If more people were seeking the Kingdom of Yahweh, they would be more inclined to follow the Word of Yahweh and keep His commandments, no matter what obstacles and problems got in their way. I am seeking Yahweh’s Kingdom. Sometimes I feel that I let life’s distractions get in the way, but ultimately, I remind myself of the kingdom just about every day in what I read, and in my prayers. Exodus 19:6 says: “you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’ These are the words you are to speak to the Israelites.”

You seem to be assuming that reading the Bible is all it takes to believe. But what of those who read the Bible and don't believe? Perhaps they don't feel it applies to them, today. Perhaps they have read other books that make more sense to them. Or follow a different path that doesn't depend on a book.

 

[Messianic Israelite]

Good, so the stuff in Revelation is a metaphor because it can't make sense if taken literally, is that it? That seems fair enough.

What about the contradiction between the first 2 chapters of Genesis?

Hi exchemist. Good evening. The things in Revelation were received by John in a vision. What he saw was recorded. It happened, but it happened in a vision. Revelation 1 says: "9 I, John, your brother and companion in the suffering and kingdom and patient endurance that are ours in Yahshua, was on the island of Patmos because of the word of Yahweh and the testimony of Yahweh. 10 On Yahweh's Day I was in the Spirit, and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet, 11 which said: “Write on a scroll what you see and send it to the seven assemblies: to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea.” John literally experienced this vision, sometimes he saw it as an onlooker, sometimes he participated in something taking place in this vision. Interpreting Revelation comes by allowing the Bible to interpret itself, especially taking scriptures from books such as Daniel and tying them in. But many scriptures in Revelation can be taken literally such as the seven plagues that will be released on mankind before Yahshua's return. It is quite easy to tell what requires more interpretation. Yahweh made that quite clear in His Word.

In terms of the contradiction between the first 2 chapters of Genesis, Answers In Genesis provides an explanation on that 'alleged' discrepancy.

 

[Messianic Israelite]

My point is that when you say "law", this is understood as being Jewish Law, thus the 613 Commandments, and these are binding on all Jews but not on Gentiles. Jesus take on the Law was not altogether different from Hillel the Elder's take but did go further.

Hi metis. Good evening. You have to make the difference between Jewish Law and Yahweh's Law. Take for example the Sabbath Day. The Sabbath is never called the 'Jewish Sabbath' , it's called 'Yahweh's Sabbath Day', the seventh day of the week, Friday evening to Saturday evening. The Jews have added many laws to the Bible which was not Yahweh's intention. However, Yahweh's Law is still applicable. Yahshua our Messiah in Matthew 5:17-20 says:

"17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven."

Doesn't sound to me that Yahshua intended for the Law to be done away with. As a matter of fact, it is a stern warning for those no-law preachers not to preach no-law. Why would Yahweh do away with the Law? Was Yahshua somehow perfect for keeping the Law, yet also imperfect for keeping a Law that was not perfect? The Law is perfect and the new covenant we read in Jeremiah 31 is not done away with, but it is more applicable, it being written on our hearts through the Holy Spirit:

“This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
after that time,” declares Yahweh.
“I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their Elohim,
and they will be my people.
34 No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know Yahweh,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest,”
declares Yahweh.
“For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more.”

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Another post I decided on writing on the spur of the moment today. I couldn’t help but shake my head at the amount of disbelief I have found on what should be a religious forum regarding the Bible. Constantly people are questioning the Biblical message and coming up with their own ideas regarding eternal life and what they have to do to be saved. One of the main ways to instil belief in one mind regarding the veracity of the Bible is to read it. “Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word about the Messiah.” (Romans 10:17)

Perhaps one should devote less time to endless philosophical discussions, and simply read the Bible. In the book of Acts, Paul was confronted with the same problem: “20 For thou bringest certain strange things to our ears: we would know therefore what these things mean. 21 (Now all the Athenians and the strangers sojourning there a]">[a]spent their time in nothing else, but either to tell or to hear some new thing.) 22 And Paul stood in the midst of the Areopagus, and said, Ye men of Athens, in all things I perceive that ye are b]">[b]very religious.” The people of Athens enjoyed such discussions, but did this make a change in their life? Hardly. However, the title of this thread, the Kingdom of Yahweh, makes all the difference. Do we want to be there? Do we believe in a Kingdom? A world without suffering, pain and evil? A heavenly world ruled by beings of light? A world where Yahweh’s Law will be kept. I believe in the Kingdom and I believe in the Word which describes it.

Right now, they are a lot of threads on the subject of why is there suffering in the world. The people that write these threads seem to forget of the world to come, when every tear will be wiped away. Revelation 21:4 says: “and he shall wipe away every tear from their eyes; and death shall be no more; neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain, any more: the first things are passed away.” But in order to make it in to that kingdom, we have to be obedient to Yahweh’s commandments now, in a world where suffering is evident. We have to live a life of perfection, in a world which isn't perfect. We have to prove to Yahweh we don’t hate him, which we do when we sin, but that we love Him (1 John 5:3). Just because people suffer in this life, doesn’t mean they’ll be denied entrance in to the Kingdom. The mention of Lazarus and the Rich Man by Yahshua my Savior proves this (Luke 16:19-31). Lazarus suffered immensely, but he was obedient to Yahweh and in eternity, he will have a good understanding of suffering and so be able to help others.

Matthew 6:33 says: “But seek ye first his kingdom, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.”

If more people were seeking the Kingdom of Yahweh, they would be more inclined to follow the Word of Yahweh and keep His commandments, no matter what obstacles and problems got in their way. I am seeking Yahweh’s Kingdom. Sometimes I feel that I let life’s distractions get in the way, but ultimately, I remind myself of the kingdom just about every day in what I read, and in my prayers. Exodus 19:6 says: “you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’ These are the words you are to speak to the Israelites.”

It's a debate and discussion forum on the topic of religion.
What did you think you were going to find here, aside from debate and discussion?


The echo chamber is that way (/points at the nearest church of your approval)

 

[metis]

You have to make the difference between Jewish Law and Yahweh's Law.

The 613 Commandments are considered "Yahweh's Law" per Torah as they are all found there.

The Sabbath is never called the 'Jewish Sabbath' , it's called 'Yahweh's Sabbath Day', the seventh day of the week, Friday evening to Saturday evening.

Yes, and I observed this set of Commandments for over 20 years, and it is still binding on Jews according to Torah.

Doesn't sound to me that Yahshua intended for the Law to be done away with.

For Jews, exactly, as the Law is referred to as being "perpetual" according to Torah. However, they are not binding on Gentiles, which most Christians are.

 

[Dogknox20]

Hi dogknox20. Good afternoon. Yahshua was Yahweh's Son and Yahshua sits on the right hand side of Yahweh meaning he is not Yahweh. He doesn't sit in Yahweh's throne. He has his own throne. Yahshua was the Word, the Spokesman that spoke for Yahweh in the Hebrew Scriptures. John 5:37 says: "And the Father that sent me, he hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard [Yahweh's] voice at any time, nor seen his form." Do you agree that Yahshua pre-existed with the Father? If so, you'll recognise that Yahshua represented Yahweh, and had dealings with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and the Israelites and is called the Angel of Yahweh at various places. He spoke for Yahweh. He was the Word. If Chr-stians used the more accurate Hebrew term 'Elohim' instead of 'G-d' they would have a better appreciation of what the Word says regarding the relationship between the Father and the Son.

It will be truly a shame if it's true that the Southern Baptist's are being investigated for child molestations. I don't see how supposing religious people, these are supposed to be spiritual people who have been enlightened by the Word of Yahweh, could do such as evil thing as to molest children. I am ashamed of these wicked people. Yahshua spoke of those who should cause the little children to stumble and he spoke sternly against them (Matthew 18:6). However, pointing out another religious organisation that may be guilty of the same thing doesn't take away the fact that the RCC is guilty of molesting possibly upwards of 216,000 children and much of this was covered up. It's still being covered up.



John says "If we say that we have fellowship with him and walk in the darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: 7 but if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Yahshua his Son cleanseth us from all sin. 8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."

All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of Yahweh we read in the Bible. However, we should be overcoming sin. Not repeating the same mistakes we made before we were baptised.

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Messianic Israelite Hello... I hope all is well!

Worship is ONLY for God.... Christians worship Jesus! Christians have always worshiped Jesus! Jesus NEVER EVER stops anyone from worshipping him; Jesus allows all worship of him!! Jesus never corrects anyone and stops anyone from worshipping him!
Christians believe Jesus is God!
The scriptures record they worship Jesus!

John 20:28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

Clearly all Christians are Blessed: "Christians are Blessed!" Thomas was a Christian, Thomas was an Apostle; Thomas worshiped Jesus! Thomas the Apostle believed Jesus was God! CLEARLY....

Messianic Israelite clearly those who reject Jesus is God are NOT Blessed!

 

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It's a debate and discussion forum on the topic of religion.
What did you think you were going to find here, aside from debate and discussion?


The echo chamber is that way (/points at the nearest church of your approval)

Hi TagliatelliMonster. Good afternoon. I expected to find less unbelief. I think that would be logical considering this is a religious forum.