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The Last Supper Painting

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
As a side-bar, the picture would be generally fine if Jesus and the Twelve were Romans, but it's not likely compatible for common Jews 2000 years ago. Instead, picture them on the floor in a circular pattern with a communal dinner in front of them and with a type of pita bread often made from barley.
Jesus: a table for twenty-six, please.

Maitre D: twenty-six? But I only count 13 of you.

Jesus: yes, but we all want to sit on the same side.
 

Ellen Brown

Well-Known Member
As a side-bar, the picture would be generally fine if Jesus and the Twelve were Romans, but it's not likely compatible for common Jews 2000 years ago. Instead, picture them on the floor in a circular pattern with a communal dinner in front of them and with a type of pita bread often made from barley.


Yes, and Muslims still do it that way. Right hand only.
 

Holdasown

Active Member
I took an art history course as an elective in college and our teacher did an in depth lesson on why the Last Supper is so significant. Up until that point the pictures were awkward and closed to the viewer. da Vinci, by putting all of the disciples on one side of the table invited the viewer to attend the meal. It's a masterpiece when compared to the previous views of the event. I seen no reason to put too much into any findings about the painting other than face value even if true. There is Jesus and his 12. Judas is looking away. That is all that is important unless you want something else to be represented. Most just love the image and the incident it captured from their faith.
 

e.r.m.

Church of Christ
As a side-bar, the picture would be generally fine if Jesus and the Twelve were Romans, but it's not likely compatible for common Jews 2000 years ago. Instead, picture them on the floor in a circular pattern with a communal dinner in front of them and with a type of pita bread often made from barley.
Exactly!
 

e.r.m.

Church of Christ
And, you think yourself to be an authority?
Ms. Brown, after studying the Bible for the last 35 years or so, and a lot of church history in there, I do feel a fair amount of confidence in the things I say. But I don't know what specifically you are objecting to. Perhaps if you could tell me.
 
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e.r.m.

Church of Christ
I took an art history course as an elective in college and our teacher did an in depth lesson on why the Last Supper is so significant. Up until that point the pictures were awkward and closed to the viewer. da Vinci, by putting all of the disciples on one side of the table invited the viewer to attend the meal. It's a masterpiece when compared to the previous views of the event. I seen no reason to put too much into any findings about the painting other than face value even if true. There is Jesus and his 12. Judas is looking away. That is all that is important unless you want something else to be represented. Most just love the image and the incident it captured from their faith.
It is a great work of art.
 

Ellen Brown

Well-Known Member
As a side-bar, the picture would be generally fine if Jesus and the Twelve were Romans, but it's not likely compatible for common Jews 2000 years ago. Instead, picture them on the floor in a circular pattern with a communal dinner in front of them and with a type of pita bread often made from barley.


The work was painted around 1500 AD, so likely just conforms to the ideas of the day.
 

Ellen Brown

Well-Known Member
Ms. Brown, after studying the Bible for the last 35 years or so, and a lot of church history in there, I do feel a fair amount of confidence in the things I say. But I don't know what specifically you are objecting to. Perhaps if you could tell me.

Try 45 years.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Jesus' celibacy isn't canonical, it's a tradition.
True, but there is no mention of a wife being with Jesus, which would seemingly be a major omission in scripture if he was married.

Some believe Jesus may have been a nazar, which was a man who was unmarried, didn't cut his hair, and meditated and taught, often in fairly remote areas. Most nazars eventually did leave and marry, so it was more of a temporary state.
 

Ellen Brown

Well-Known Member
A lot of people believe Jesus was married to Mary. Jesus' celibacy isn't canonical, it's a tradition.
Jesus' Marriage to Mary the Magdalene Is Fact, Not Fiction | HuffPost


In sentiment I subscribe to the "Gospel" of "The Davinci Code" by Dan Brown. :)

He died around 33 (?) and if the idea that he was fully human is true, then it is likely that he had a procreative relationship. It does seem likely that it was Mary Magdalene, but judging by our performance at accurately recording history, any number of scenarios are possible. It is frustrating that we master at dwelling on the inane, but neglect the simple things that God and Jesus said he wanted from us.
 

e.r.m.

Church of Christ
True, but there is no mention of a wife being with Jesus, which would seemingly be a major omission in scripture if he was married.
Big time!

Some believe Jesus may have been a nazar, which was a man who was unmarried, didn't cut his hair, and meditated and taught, often in fairly remote areas. Most nazars eventually did leave and marry, so it was more of a temporary state.
in Jesus's case, if he was a nazar, there would be no need for him to end this temporary state, knowing that he was going to be the sacrifice for our sins.
 
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e.r.m.

Church of Christ
In sentiment I subscribe to the "Gospel" of "The Davinci Code" by Dan Brown. :)

He died around 33 (?) and if the idea that he was fully human is true, then it is likely that he had a procreative relationship. It does seem likely that it was Mary Magdalene, but judging by our performance at accurately recording history, any number of scenarios are possible. It is frustrating that we master at dwelling on the inane, but neglect the simple things that God and Jesus said he wanted from us.
That's all conjecture. Even the recent archeological "find" about Jesus's wife was rejected because of its lack authenticity and poor workmanship.
 
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