Sorry dear friend I do not believe you. There has been no posturing my side. I have only been honest with you. As posted earlier your questions were already answered with a lot of detail in
post # 356 linked and
post # 366 linked. The linked posts are evidence to the dishonest claims you are making. So the dishonesty is also not my side or excuse making which is what you are doing by refusing to respond to my linked posts here. If you are not able to respond to the posts shared with you that answer your questions in detail just say so and lets move on. I am still waiting for your responses.
You were also directly shown the scriptures in earlier posts you that state Jesus is God. You just chose to ignore them. In
post # 347 linked you were also directly told that the list you are trying to respond to (e.g
John 1:1-4; 14;
John 5:18;
Matthew 1:23; from
Isaiah 9:6;
Titus 2:13;
Mark 1:24; Acts 10:41;
2 Corinthians 1:21;
John 10:30;
John 8:58;
John 20:28;
Colossians 2:9;
Hebrews 1:3;
Hebrews 1:8;
1 Peter 1:1) was a list that included
both a list of scripture that say (
1) Jesus in God and (
2) that Jesus was creator and (
3) in the beginning with God.
That list was never a list of scripture directly stating Jesus was God. So in response you tried to build and tear down a paper dragon claiming that I was saying that every scripture provided to you earlier was a reference to Jesus being God? It never was so why pretend that was what I was saying? I posted out the from that list all the scriptures in full in another linked post stating that Jesus was God from the gospel writers and the Apostles. You just chose to conveniently ignore them and did not address or respond to them in your post.
You were shown in
post # 347 linked the scripture referring to Jesus as God by the writers of the Gospels and Apostles, and
post # 349 linked you were shown your claims to one God and Jesus not being God was in error. You just simply ignored both of those post. I wonder why? Not a single scripture you provided in your posts disagree with anything shared with you. If you believe that is not true let's discuss it. However I do not think our discussion will go to far if your going to continue to ignore the content of my posts shared with you and pretend that there is no scripture in the bible calling Jesus God by the gospel writers and the Apostles. That would be simply a lie.
Here let me post them again and give me your response (from
post # 356 linked that you chose to ignore and not respond to because it shows your not being honest)....
As posted earlier, the scripture provided to you (the list of all scriptures) dear friend were direct quotes stating that (1) not only did Jesus pre-exist creation but that (2) Jesus was the God of creation. Did you read them Here lets look at a few I do not think you read them..
- JOHN 1:1-4; 14 1, 1, IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD, AND THE WORD WAS WITH GOD, AND THE WORD WAS GOD. 2, THE SAME WAS IN THE BEGINNING WITH GOD. 3, ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY HIM; AND WITHOUT HIM WAS NOT ANY THING MADE THAT WAS MADE. 4, In him was life; and the life was the light of men. [10] He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. [14], AND THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH, AND DWELT AMONG US, AND WE BEHELD HIS GLORY, THE GLORY AS OF THE ONLY BEGOTTEN OF THE FATHER, FULL OF GRACE AND TRUTH.
John makes it very clear what he is talking about here...
- 1 JOHN 5:20 20 And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true; and we are in him who is true, in his Son JESUS CHRIST HE IS THE TRUE GOD AND ETERNAL LIFE.
The Apostles Thomas also believed Jesus was God here...
- JOHN 20:28 28 Thomas answered him, “MY LORD AND MY GOD!”
As does Paul quoting God here...
- HEBREWS 1:8 But UNTO THE SON HE SAYS, “YOUR THRONE, O GOD, WILL LAST FOR EVER AND EVER; A SCEPTER OF JUSTICE WILL BE THE SCEPTER OF YOUR KINGDOM.
Peter knew Jesus was God and states so here...
- 2 PETER 1:1 Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of OUR GOD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST
Paul shows his belief that Jesus is God here...
- TITUS 2:1313 waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of OUR GREAT GOD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST
The Jews continued to seek to kill Jesus because he they claimed Jesus was claiming himself to be God here...
- JOHN 10:30-33 30 I and the father are one. 31 The Jews picked up stones again to stone him. 32 Jesus answered them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you going to stone me?” 33 The Jews answered him, “It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, BECAUSE YOU, BEING A MAN, MAKE YOURSELF GOD.”
The Angel even calls Jesus God here..
- LUKE 1:35 “The angel replied, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the baby to be born will be holy, and HE WILL BE CALLED THE SON OF GOD”
So yes you were provided scripture evidence showing that the gospel writers and the Apostles believed Jesus was God. Stating anything otherwise is simply being dishonest. You just simply ignored this post (from
post # 356 linked) as you did my responses to your last questions in in
post # 356 linked and
post # 366 linked. I am still awaiting a response from you but all I hear is silence and lies. So we will of course agree to disagree.
Take Care.