"THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

[3rdAngel]

I am not playing the way back game. This is where he made what you are doing wrong clear:

Well, you need to stop doing that. Jesus condemned repetition of prayers (requests) which was a favourite negative behaviour pattern of the Jews!!

It seems that you did not understand that criticism. Earlier exegesis and eisegesis were brought up. If one is excessive in either one will get a false interpretation of the Bible. You rely far to heavily on excessive exegesis. When one does that the real world refutes your beliefs. And who is to say whose exegesis is more correct? You are not a scholar. Nor it Soapy, or I. I do not play the exegesis game too much because I understand its shortcomings. Do you remember how I asked you if you were treating the Bible as a piece of fanfiction? That is what one is doing when one relies only upon exegesis.

Jesus castigated the Jews in the temple for doing the same thing as you are doing.

Yep just as I thought. You cannot prove what you say again. Thanks for proving my point. You are running away again. It is clear you do not know what exegesis is and neither do you understand the bible.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yep just as I thought. You cannot prove what you say again. Thanks for proving my point. You are running away again. It is clear you do not know what exegesis is and neither do you understand the bible.

What do you mean? I explained what you were doing wrong according to @Soapy. I know, denial is all that you have. No matter what I posted you were probably going to make that false claim.

Of course to understand my post you would have to understand why your reasoning is terribly flawed and you will probably never own up to that.

 

[3rdAngel]

His post made sense, The fault may lie with you.

My response to you

3rdAngel said: ↑ Alright you tell me what part of the post I was referring to when posting to Soapy and explain to me what it meant? If you cannot why make up stuff again and run away? Prove yourself. If you cannot you are only proving my point to everyone again that you make false claims and accusations unsupported by any evidence and then run away when challenged.

Your response here..

What do you mean? I explained what you were doing wrong according to @Soapy. I know, denial is all that you have. No matter what I posted you were probably going to make that false claim. Of course to understand my post you would have to understand why your reasoning is terribly flawed and you will probably never own up to that.

No you didn't. Follow the conversation. You did none of the above. I post the conversation with you as evidence to your false claims and accusations. You simply proved my point and ran away again when asked to prove your claims. Thank you for proving my point.

 

[Subduction Zone]

My response to you

Your response here..

No you didn't. Follow the conversation. You did none of the above. I post the conversation with you as evidence.

Wrong That was not the response to your post. You just showed that you cannot follow your own conversations. Take another look.

You skipped a post. And by the way, if you edit your post the post will have a record that you edited it.

 

[3rdAngel]

Wrong That was not the response to your post. You just showed that you cannot follow your own conversations. Take another look. You skipped a post. And by the way, if you edit your post the post will have a record that you edited it.

Nope. It is you who is wrong. You did not follow the conversation. Try reading it again. You completely misunderstood my post to someone else and what I was saying in that post. I edit my posts all the time fixing up typos and stuff, not changing post content, so what?

 

[Subduction Zone]

You did not follow the conversation. Try reading it again. You completely misunderstood my post to someone else and what I was saying in that post.

Wrong. Your challenge to me was in post #1374. My response was #1381 Then in post #1384 you claimed that my post #1383 was my response to #1374. You were wrong. That was a response to #1382.

By the way, this is why I do not play the way back game that you want others to play. You are the one that demanded it and you cannot keep track.

You need to find a better way to ask your questions.

Also, it is rather amazing after all of this time that you still do not understand what running away is.

EDIT: Just because you did not get the answers that you wanted does not mean that your opponent ran away. Running away is what you did when it took me over a hundred posts to get you to answer a simple question. You simply ignored the question. That is running away. You could have said that you were not going to answer it. You could have denied it. Though those two strategies would not have worked well. But instead you pretended that no question was asked.

 

[3rdAngel]

Wrong. Your challenge to me was in post #1374. My response was #1381 Then in post #1384 you claimed that my post #1383 was my response to #1374. You were wrong. That was a response to #1382.

By the way, this is why I do not play the way back game that you want others to play. You are the one that demanded it and you cannot keep track.

You need to find a better way to ask your questions.

Also, it is rather amazing after all of this time that you still do not understand what running away is.

EDIT: Just because you did not get the answers that you wanted does not mean that your opponent ran away. Running away is what you did when it took me over a hundred posts to get you to answer a simple question. You simply ignored the question. That is running away. You could have said that you were not going to answer it. You could have denied it. Though those two strategies would not have worked well. But instead you pretended that no question was asked.

Wrong you did not follow the conversation. Than you ran away when asked to prove yourself. Thank you for proving my point

 

[Subduction Zone]

Wrong you did not follow the conversation. Than you ran away when asked to prove yourself. Thank you for proving my point

Sorry, that makes no sense. Logic appears to be a tool that is missing for you.

By the way, an excellent example of running away would be you avoiding why your methodology fails.

 

[3rdAngel]

Sorry, that makes no sense. Logic appears to be a tool that is missing for you.
By the way, an excellent example of running away would be you avoiding why your methodology fails.

Sure it makes sense. You are just denying it and running away again.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Sure it makes sense. You are just denying it. and running away again.

You are funny. You do not know what running away is. It is not giving answers that you do not like.

 

[Subduction Zone]

But not even acknowledging that there is an argument that possibly refutes your nonsense is running away.

 

[3rdAngel]

You are funny. You do not know what running away is. It is not giving answers that you do not like.

Not really dear friend. You are deflecting again. You are indeed funny which is my saying to you. As posted many times now, you run away from the discussion by not addressing the post and scripture content that disagrees with you and simply deflect by making false claims and accusations you are unable to prove, then when asked to prove what you say you simply run further away from the discussion because you cannot prove what you claim. Most people in this OP can see this and have also pointed this out to you and have been trying to help you here but it seems you refuse to receive help from anyone. It was amusing in the past but its now become a little boring, so we will agree to disagree. Lets talk more when you would like to have a discussion and have something to contribute to the OP.

 

[3rdAngel]

But not even acknowledging that there is an argument that possibly refutes your nonsense is running away.

You will need to be able to make an argument you can defend first without running away for that to be true. You haven't been able to do that in any of our discussions.

 

[Soapy]

Your response here...

You are deflecting. The post you are quoting from shows you have not responded or addressed any of the linked post content from four linked posts that prove why you are wrong that I am still waiting for you to address.

My response is:

• Same old - Same old

 

[Soapy]

I don't know what you mean here either Soapy:--

"Well, you need to stop doing that. Jesus condemned repetition of prayers (requests) which was a favourite negative behaviour pattern of the Jews!!"

You're advising 3rdAngel to stop repeating prayers. Am I correct?

If you do not understand that a ‘Prayer’ means ‘Request’ / ‘petition’, then scriptures will sound odd to you.

In a courtroom a solicitor (or Barrister / lawyer) PRAYS to the Judge… It means that the solicitor is REQUESTING something of the judge… he is PETITIONING the judge.

‘Pray tell me, what is it you do not understand!?’

What an odd thing it is that someone who is engaged in scriptural debates does not understand scriptural language!!!?

3rdAngel is petitioning me over-constantly for information that I have already supplied to him.

 

[Soapy]

I am still waiting for you to address all my posts and the content of these posts and the scriptures provided in them that are in disagreement with you. So far you have ignored my posts that prove why your teachings are in error.

I have answered you in all things you asked me.

As I read it, you are unable to answer my questions so you persistently make fictitious requests of me to cover yourself.

Your only working debating methodology seems to be this rather ridiculous tactic which you use on all your opponents who don’t realise what you are doing: and even the ones like me who do - so you are not even discerning - just blatant!!!

 

[samtonga43]

If you do not understand that a ‘Prayer’ means ‘Request’ / ‘petition’, then scriptures will sound odd to you.

But why do you assume that I don’t understand that ‘Prayer’ means ‘Request’ /Petition, Soapy?

In a courtroom a solicitor (or Barrister / lawyer) PRAYS to the Judge… It means that the solicitor is REQUESTING something of the judge… he is PETITIONING the judge.

A lawyer prays to a judge? Really?

What an odd thing it is that someone who is engaged in scriptural debates does not understand scriptural language!!!?
3rdAngel is petitioning me over-constantly for information that I have already supplied to him.

You are saying that 3rdAngel is praying to you? Seriously?
Because if you are, I’m afraid it’s you who does not understand scriptural language, Soapy.

(By the way, ‘over- constantly’?
The ‘over’ is superfluous.)

 

[3rdAngel]

My response is:Same old - Same old

Agreed. You do the same things. You do not respond to post content. Your responses do not address what you are quoting from. You make false claims and accusations that when challenged to prove continue to run away like your friend.

 

[3rdAngel]

3rdAngel said: ↑ I am still waiting for you to address all my posts and the content of these posts and the scriptures provided in them that are in disagreement with you. So far you have ignored my posts that prove why your teachings are in error.

Your response here...

I have answered you in all things you asked me. As I read it, you are unable to answer my questions so you persistently make fictitious requests of me to cover yourself. Your only working debating methodology seems to be this rather ridiculous tactic which you use on all your opponents who don’t realise what you are doing: and even the ones like me who do - so you are not even discerning - just blatant!!!

So that is a no than? You do not want to address the scripture content of my posts that are in disagreement with you. All of your past questions and post content were answered section by section and proven false here in post # 1268 linked; post # 1269 linked; post # 1270 linked and post # 1271 linked for all to see that your making false claims again. My question to you dear friend is do you want to actually try now to respond to the content in these linked posts that prove from the scriptures why your earlier posts are in error or are you going to project, and deflect with false claims and accusations and run away?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Not really dear friend. You are deflecting again. You are indeed funny which is my saying to you. As posted many times now, you run away from the discussion by not addressing the post and scripture content that disagrees with you and simply deflect by making false claims and accusations you are unable to prove, then when asked to prove what you say you simply run further away from the discussion because you cannot prove what you claim. Most people in this OP can see this and have also pointed this out to you and have been trying to help you here but it seems you refuse to receive help from anyone. It was amusing in the past but its now become a little boring, so we will agree to disagree. Lets talk more when you would like to have a discussion and have something to contribute to the OP.

0You really need to quit using terms that you do not understand.

I can tell that people have pointed out to you countless times that you have been deflecting. That is your sin. People ask you a question that you cannot answer and you will do anything but answer it. Instead you run away. And I constantly prove that you are running away. Why would you post something so false? I do not do it by your bogus method I do it by asking the question that you are running away from again and again. Would you like to see yourself run away some more?

Would you like to discuss why your excessive exegesis is self defeating?