"THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

[Subduction Zone]

Well you are funny even if there is nothing truthful in what you say

I am enjoying our little chat. You make me smile even though are unable to prove anything you say

Well there you go dear friend. You just proved my point again. You make false claims and accusations that you are unable to prove then ran away when challenged. You lose again.

Oh my look! More evidence that I was right. Here we have three posts in a row where you run away by not answering reasonable questions that deal with your thread.

Just to make sure:

Why are you afraid to discuss why your exegesis fails?

Do you really want to treat the Bible as a piece of fanfiction?

 

[3rdAngel]

Oh my look! More evidence that I was right. Here we have three posts in a row where you run away by not answering reasonable questions that deal with your thread.

Just to make sure:

Why are you afraid to discuss why your exegesis fails?

Do you really want to treat the Bible as a piece of fanfiction?

You have not given me anything to run away from. All you have done is make untruthful claims and accusations again you are unable to prove then when challenged to prove your claims you run away because you cannot prove what you say. Lets talk more when you can prove what you say and stop running away from a discussion. You are funny though

 

[samtonga43]

Why are you afraid to discuss why your exegesis fails?
Do you really want to treat the Bible as a piece of fanfiction?

I said earlier that I would point out your false assumptions, SZ.
So...
Why are you assuming that his exegesis failed?
Why are you assuming that he is afraid to discuss this assumed failure?
Why do you assume that he treats the Bible as a piece of fanfiction?

Why not try to resist the temptation to assume so much?

 

[Subduction Zone]

You have not given me anything to run away from. All you have done is make untruthful claims and accusations again you are unable to prove then when challenged to prove your claims you run away because you cannot prove what you say. Lets talk more when you can prove what you say and stop running away from a discussion. You are funny though

Sorry, but your own posts refute that claim. I have asked essentially the same question for probably twenty times and you pretend that no question was asked. That,, my friend, is running away.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I said earlier that I would point out your false assumptions, SZ.
So...
Why are you assuming that his exegesis failed?
Why are you assuming that he is afraid to discuss this assumed failure?
Why do you assume that he treats the Bible as a piece of fanfiction?

Why not try to resist the temptation to assume so much?

Sorry, you only get to ask one question. But this time I will answer all three. I will also be more generous than you deserve.
First question, that is poorly asked. I am not making any such assumption. I can see how his exegesis fails based upon an earlier claim of his.. I am waiting for him to discuss it.

Second, because he keeps running away. That is a sign of fear. He won even, until just now, even acknowledge that there were questions.

Third, that has to do with his failed exegesis. I am trying to get him to discuss it, but he appears to know that he will fail. At least that explains the running away.

And a note for you. When you use the word "assume" you have taken on a burden of proof. All of your questions were poorly formed because you made a claim, that I assumed something, that you could not support and was wrong. If you want answers in the future it is best not to have an unjustified assumption in it.

 

[3rdAngel]

Sorry, you only get to ask one question. But this time I will answer all three. I will also be more generous than you deserve.
First question, that is poorly asked. I am not making any such assumption. I can see how his exegesis fails based upon an earlier claim of his.. I am waiting for him to discuss it.

Second, because he keeps running away. That is a sign of fear. He won even, until just now, even acknowledge that there were questions.

Third, that has to do with his failed exegesis. I am trying to get him to discuss it, but he appears to know that he will fail. At least that explains the running away.

And a note for you. When you use the word "assume" you have taken on a burden of proof. All of your questions were poorly formed because you made a claim, that I assumed something, that you could not support and was wrong. If you want answers in the future it is best not to have an unjustified assumption in it.

So where did you prove any of these false accusations and claims? You made them all earlier. As you made the claims the burden of proof is on you to prove them. I challenged you to prove your claims and to discuss them with me but all you did was to run away from the discussion. This only proves once more dear friend your not telling the truth, your claims are false and your making stuff up you cannot prove and when challenged run away. Not looking to good for you again now is it? - You lose but it is fun watching you do so

 

[Subduction Zone]

So where did you prove any of these false accusations and claims? You made them all earlier. As you made the claims the burden of proof is on you to prove them. I challenged you to prove your claims and to discuss them with me but all you did was to run away from the discussion. This only proves once more dear friend your not telling the truth, your claims are false and your making stuff up you cannot prove and when challenged run away. Not looking to good for you again now is it? - You lose but it is fun watching you do so

What supposed false claims? I made none. And where have I run away?

 

[3rdAngel]

Dude! I did prove my claim. My claim was that you were running away from a reasonable question. Even she could see that it was a reasonable question. And you are back to running away from it again Why do you keep running away from questions that show that you are wrong? Why are you afraid to discuss your exegesis?

No you didn't prove anything you said but that is ok, I already knew you were simply making stuff up you were never able to prove. I was just watching what you were saying and smiling at you asking you to prove yourself. You were unable to because you were just making stuff up

 

[Subduction Zone]

No you didn't prove anything you said but that is ok, I already knew you were simply making stuff up you were never able to prove. I was just watching what you were saying and smiling at you asking you to prove yourself. You were unable to because you were just making stuff up

You do not appear to have been following the conversation.

Be specific, what was I not able to prove? Now would be the proper time to show that you know how to support your claims.

 

[3rdAngel]

You do not appear to have been following the conversation. Be specific, what was I not able to prove? Now would be the proper time to show that you know how to support your claims.

No you didn't prove anything you said but that is ok, I already knew you were simply making stuff up you were never able to prove. I was just watching what you were saying and smiling at you asking you to prove yourself. You were unable to because you were just making stuff up

 

[3rdAngel]

What supposed false claims? I made none. And where have I run away?

Yea you did you are not telling the truth again. You have been making false claims and accusations all though this thread and others can see it. Here are just a few examples below in a recent post as we do not need to go too far back....

• I can see how his exegesis fails based upon an earlier claim of his.. I am waiting for him to discuss it.

• Second, because he keeps running away.

• That is a sign of fear.

• Third, that has to do with his failed exegesis.

• I am trying to get him to discuss it, but he appears to know that he will fail.

• At least that explains the running away.

You made all the claims above so the burden of proof is now on you to prove those claims. I challenged you and asked you many times now to prove these claims and lets discuss them. Your refusal to do so only provides me with further evidence that your claims are not truthful because you fail to prove them or even discuss them and show that everything you are accusing others of here is what you are doing then running away and refusing to discuss what you posted. Again dear friend this is only more evidence against you that prove you wrong and shows that you lose again.

Someone pass the popcorn

 

[Subduction Zone]

No you didn't prove anything you said but that is ok, I already knew you were simply making stuff up you were never able to prove. I was just watching what you were saying and smiling at you asking you to prove yourself. You were unable to because you were just making stuff up

I see that all you have is denial. No evidence. No specifics. That would be a failure on your part.


Are you ready to discuss your exegesis yet?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yea you did you are not telling the truth again. You have been making false claims and accusations all though this thread and others can see it. Here are just a few examples below in a recent post as we do not need to go too far back....
You made all the claims above so the burden of proof is now on you to prove those claims. I challenged you and asked you many times now to prove these claims and lets discuss them. Your refusal to do so only provides me with further evidence that your claims are not truthful because you fail to prove them or even discuss them and show that everything you are accusing others of here is what you are doing then running away and refusing to discuss what you posted. Again dear friend this is only more evidence against you that prove you wrong and shows that you lose again.

Someone pass the popcorn

And I proved all of those. If you had quoted the whole posts you would have seen that.

This appears to be difficult for you, but try to reason rationally for once. The accusation was that you were running away from specific questions. The questions were all on your exegesis. The only way to "prove" that you were running away was to keep asking same questions. When you did not answer them or even acknowledge them you demonstrated that you were running away.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Another false statement prove to me that you have proved your claims. Your not being honest again and making up stuff you are unable to prove.

Nope, you did not respond to the questions. You did not even acknowledge them. Every time that I repeatedly asked the same question you did not respond. That is running away.

Do you want to prove me wrong? I explained how you were running away. Find the post where you answered that question.

 

[Soapy]

Your response here.

Perhaps it might help if you read and respond to what you are quoting from. You were asked to address the scripture content in the linked posts are are in disagreement with you that prove why your teachings are in error. If you disagree which what is written in the linked posts than show what it is you disagree with from the scriptures share with you and why you disagree (evidence). Ignoring the posts that are shared with you is only running away from the discussion.

Your reply here shows you are not seeking an answer to anything.

I asked you to end this repetitive negative response tactic by outlining precisely what you want answered (not links to some obscure thread!) but since you do not really have a question you want answering the result is just repeated prayers … As I said, Jesus condemned insincere and mindless repetitive prayers.

 

[Soapy]

Your reply here shows you are not seeking an answer to anything.

I asked you to end this repetitive negative response tactic by outlining precisely what you want answered (not links to some obscure thread!) but since you do not really have a question you want answering the result is just repeated prayers … As I said, Jesus condemned insincere and mindless repetitive prayers.

I noticed that 3rdAngel does the same with you: no matter how much you ask him to outline what he wants proved he just responds with - select all or some from:

1. ‘You are deflecting’
2. ‘You did not reply to my questions’
3. ‘You are making false claims and accusations’
4. ‘Prove your claims’
5. ‘That’s a No, then!’
6. …

3rdAngel seems to have no other debate technique other than to accuse his opponent from the above list. This tactic is an attempt to keep the opponent off balance by being requested to repeatedly reply to questions that have already been answered - while he adds more questions. Proof - Jesus quite rightly called out the Greeks for their eternal debates seeing proofs daily in their forums as a form of daily ‘work’!

All this points to someone who isn’t really debating but is existing in a thread as a contributor simply on the basis of repeated queries that have little to no substance of value:

1. What is the deflection?
2. What question (exactly) was not replied to?
3. What fakes claim was made - what was the accusation that was false?
4. How can the claim be ‘proved’ if no answer is ever satisfactory?
5. Assumption - assumption - assumption …!

 

[Subduction Zone]

I noticed that 3rdAngel does the same with you: no matter how much you ask him to outline what he wants proved he just responds with - select all or some from:

1. ‘You are deflecting’
2. ‘You did not reply to my questions’
3. ‘You are making false claims and accusations’
4. ‘Prove your claims’
5. ‘That’s a No, then!’
6. …

3rdAngel seems to have no other debate technique other than to accuse his opponent from the above list. This tactic is an attempt to keep the opponent off balance by being requested to repeatedly reply to questions that have already been answered - while he adds more questions. Proof - Jesus quite rightly called out the Greeks for their eternal debates seeing proofs daily in their forums as a form of daily ‘work’!

All this points to someone who isn’t really debating but is existing in a thread as a contributor simply on the basis of repeated queries that have little to no substance of value:

1. What is the deflection?
2. What question (exactly) was not replied to?
3. What fakes claim was made - what was the accusation that was false?
4. How can the claim be ‘proved’ if no answer is ever satisfactory?
5. Assumption - assumption - assumption …!

Yes, last night when I asked for specifics multiple times he could not give any in his charges. He seems to think that quoting posts that he disagrees with is "evidence".

I think that he has debated for a while and he merely copies terms that he has heard apply to him. He does not appear to have any clue as to what those terms are.

 

[3rdAngel]

I noticed that 3rdAngel does the same with you: no matter how much you ask him to outline what he wants proved he just responds with - select all or some from:

1. ‘You are deflecting’
2. ‘You did not reply to my questions’
3. ‘You are making false claims and accusations’
4. ‘Prove your claims’
5. ‘That’s a No, then!’
6. …

Well that is not being truthful. I have outlined to you many times now as well as your friend that you have not addressed the post content and the scriptures shared that are in disagreement with your understanding of the scriptures. You were posted links to posts that you simply ignored, ran away from and did not address any of the post content that was in disagreement with you. Linked posts that you did not address were provided to you asking you do address them. You simply ignored those linked posts. This was specifically outlined to you disagreeing with what you are saying here in this post proving what you are saying here is no truthful. You (like your friend) than respond by making false claims and when challenged are unable to prove what you say showing that what you have accused others of in your posts is not truthful.

3rdAngel seems to have no other debate technique other than to accuse his opponent from the above list. This tactic is an attempt to keep the opponent off balance by being requested to repeatedly reply to questions that have already been answered - while he adds more questions. Proof - Jesus quite rightly called out the Greeks for their eternal debates seeing proofs daily in their forums as a form of daily ‘work’!

Once again your post accusations are not truthful at all and the evidence to this fact is that I respond to the post content that is made by everyone here section by section and scripture by scripture if I am in disagreement proving from the scriptures what it is I am in disagreement with and show why I am in disagreement with what is being said from the scriptures. If you make persona, claims and accusations about others or post content, my advice to you would be to be prepared to prove what you say. If you cannot than what so you have? - Nothing but false claims and accusations you are unable to prove while running away from a discussion.

All this points to someone who isn’t really debating but is existing in a thread as a contributor simply on the basis of repeated queries that have little to no substance of value:

1. What is the deflection?
2. What question (exactly) was not replied to?
3. What fakes claim was made - what was the accusation that was false?
4. How can the claim be ‘proved’ if no answer is ever satisfactory?
5. Assumption - assumption - assumption …!

As posted earlier if you make false claims and accusations about others and are unwilling to discuss the OP because you cannot prove it is wrong than you better be prepared to prove what you say. So far both you and your friend have not been able to. For me personally I would rather get back to the OP then and have a discussion. Seems you guys are unwilling to do this for some reason.

 

[3rdAngel]

Yes, last night when I asked for specifics multiple times he could not give any in his charges. He seems to think that quoting posts that he disagrees with is "evidence". I think that he has debated for a while and he merely copies terms that he has heard apply to him. He does not appear to have any clue as to what those terms are.

Well that is not true and as evidence, against your claim here, you were provided specific examples in post # 1472 linked that is in disagreement with you. I listed a few examples from your posts that you were making of personal accusation you were making. You made all these false claims listed in the linked post so the burden of proof is on you to prove those claims. I challenged you and asked you many times now to prove these claims and lets discuss them. Your refusal to do so only provides me with further evidence that your claims are not truthful because you fail to prove a single one of them or even discuss them and show that everything you are accusing others of here is what you are doing then running away and refusing to discuss what you posted. Again dear friend this is only more evidence against you that prove you wrong and shows that you lose again. Do you want to discuss the now OP? If not than lets talk more when you have something to actually contribute to the discussion of the OP.

 

[3rdAngel]

Nope, you did not respond to the questions. You did not even acknowledge them. Every time that I repeatedly asked the same question you did not respond. That is running away.

I am not responding to false claims and accusations unless you are able to prove them. You haven't. As you are the one making those false claims and accusations the burden of proof is on you to prove those claims. I challenged you to prove those claims you listed earlier and I said to you lets discuss them to see if what you say is true or not. You have not proven anything but simply deflected everything that was already said and proven about you. That you do not address the post and scripture content that is in disagreement with you and as a deflection you accuse others what you do then when challenged to prove your accusations you have never been able to proving your claims and accusations to be untruthful and because you unable to prove your claims you simply runaway from the discussion

Do you want to prove me wrong? I explained how you were running away. Find the post where you answered that question.

No need you own posts already prove you wrong as your unable to prove what you say when challenged to prove your claims and accusations you make. This shows that your claims and accusations are not truthful and that you are simply making things up and then running away when challenged to prove what you say.