The main problems with the gospel genealogies

[excreationist]

Even Elizabeth mother of John the Baptist had direct lineage to the priesthood of Aaron. And his father, Zachariah a prophet and priest ..... Oh I believe God made sure that the lineage was legally through Joseph and the bloodline through Mary.

Luke 1:36 says that Elizabeth was a relative of Mary - that means that Mary might also be a descendent of Aaron (Moses' brother). If Mary is a descendent of David then maybe Elizabeth and her son John the Baptist is too....

 

[SDavis]

So both genealogies have Zerubbabel and his father Shealtiel but Shealtiel has different fathers. An explanation for this is that Zerubbabel and his father Shealtiel aren't the same people in both genealogies. But there is a prophecy that Jesus would be a descendent of Zerubbabel and his father Shealtiel - in particular I'd say they involve the Zerubbabel who built the temple - not a different Zerubbabel. So if it is referring to a different Zerubbabel and Shealtiel then that genealogy isn't fulfilling the prophecy.

Names were commonly used within a family

 

[SDavis]

Is there any verse in the Bible that suggests that Luke's genealogy refers to Mary? Note in Luke 1:27 it says:

But you're saying that Mary is also a descendant of David....

It was very common for the Hebrews / Israelites to marry cousins. God did not forbid them to marry cousins, not even first cousins. God did not want them going outside of the lineage of Abraham.

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"Most theologians say" Mary the blood lineage to David through Nathan which The Book of Luke is referring to. I am repeating what those who study biblical history, biblical lineages, biblical theologians say this which I believe.

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Here is the comment of Ryrie in the “Ryrie Study Bible.” The genealogy in Matt. 1:1f is traced through Joseph, Jesus’ legal (though not natural) father, and it establishes His claim and right to the throne of David (v. 6). The genealogy in Luke 3:23-38 is evidently that of Mary, though some...

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The Book of Matthew is referring to the lineage to the kingship through Solomon and Solomon and Nathan were brothers.

 

[SDavis]

It's not belief if those inconsistencies and gaps are visibly in the record itself.

I see no inconsistencies and gaps, nor do the theologians / historians who studied and base their findings that Luke is of Mary's lineage to the actual bloodline and Matthew is of Joseph's lineage to the kingship.

 

[Twilight Hue]

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I see no inconsistencies and gaps, nor do the theologians / historians who studied and base their findings that Luke is of Mary's lineage to the actual bloodline and Matthew is of Joseph's lineage to the kingship.

Theologians perhaps, definitely not historians.

At least real historians.

 

[SDavis]

Luke 1:36 says that Elizabeth was a relative of Mary - that means that Mary might also be a descendent of Aaron (Moses' brother). If Mary is a descendent of David then maybe Elizabeth and her son John the Baptist is too....

King James version says that Elizabeth was a distant cousin of Mary and the newer versions of the Bible changes the true meaning.

Aaron was of the tribe of Levi - the Levites held the priesthood

David was of the tribe of Judah - Judah held the kingship

Since Levi and Judah were brothers that make all of their descendants cousins - no matter the distance.

 

[excreationist]

So both genealogies have Zerubbabel and his father Shealtiel but Shealtiel has different fathers. An explanation for this is that Zerubbabel and his father Shealtiel aren't the same people in both genealogies. But there is a prophecy that Jesus would be a descendent of Zerubbabel and his father Shealtiel - in particular I'd say they involve the Zerubbabel who built the temple - not a different Zerubbabel. So if it is referring to a different Zerubbabel and Shealtiel then that genealogy isn't fulfilling the prophecy.

Names were commonly used within a family

So you're saying the Zerubbabel and Shealtiel in Matthew were different to the Zerubbabel and Shealtiel in Luke? But there was a prophecy about it.... I thought the prophecy would apply to the Zerubbabel who built the temple - not to another non-famous one. So it isn't fulfilling the prophecy....

 

[SDavis]

So you're saying the Zerubbabel and Shealtiel in Matthew were different to the Zerubbabel and Shealtiel in Luke? But there was a prophecy about it.... I thought the prophecy would apply to the Zerubbabel who built the temple - not to another non-famous one. So it isn't fulfilling the prophecy....

How do you can come to that conclusion when those names are listed in both Mary and Joseph genealogy and both Mary and Joseph are descendants of David?

Now if they were only listed once maybe you could come to the conclusion that it isn't fulfilling the prophecy.

One or the other rebuild the Temple - and since the Zerubbabel who rebuilt the temple was of the tribe of Judah - it is he who is in the lineage of Joseph.

Now because Joseph is listed in Luke people will weigh on that it is Joseph too and try to find contradictions but one forgets or refuse to accept "women were not given a lineage line" in those days.

 

[excreationist]

How do you can come to that conclusion when those names are listed in both Mary and Joseph genealogy and both Mary and Joseph are descendants of David?

You haven't provided any Biblical evidence that Luke involves the genealogy of Mary. Like I said in Luke 1:27 it says:
"to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgin’s name was Mary."
Also the genealogy in Luke 3 says "Joseph was the son of Heli".

Now if they were only listed once maybe you could come to the conclusion that it isn't fulfilling the prophecy.

One or the other rebuild the Temple - and since the Zerubbabel who rebuilt the temple was of the tribe of Judah - it is he who is in the lineage of Joseph.

Now because Joseph is listed in Luke people will weigh on that it is Joseph too and try to find contradictions but one forgets or refuse to accept "women were not given a lineage line" in those days.

To be clear, are you saying that the Zerubbabel and Shealtiel in Matthew are different to those in Luke?