The main reasons I left the Left behind, along with my respect.

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Lol well thought out and argued. See #2

Lol it's already been explained to you before that Trump isn't responsible for the relative neutralisation of IS nor for the jobless rate among minorities. The fact you seem unable to build an argument without a foundation of PRATTs, and simply start a new thread when those PRATTs are once again refuted, suggests you're not being completely straight with us about your intent.

 

[Revoltingest]

1. The Trump decapitation. Remember that, when a comedian decapitated a fake Trump? Nobody cared. People defended it by comparing it to the right hanging Obama in the last presidency. Guess what guys, if it's wrong to fake murder a president in one situation it is in all. A rational person would be disgusted at both but no, not the left.when Republicans do it it's morally wrong but when they do it it's a valid statement to be celebrated. There is no morality, only what works for the left at the time.

2. Nothing good can be recognized if it may be tied to Trump. When's the last time ISIL headlined? Did you know unemployment is down especially for minorities? Hey there's a chance the Korean war may end? And what's that you say, the opiod epidemic is finally being addressed? Who cares, Trump can only be tied to evil! It's absolutely absurd. This is so emotional and irrational it's nothing but embarrassing.

3. Let's keep it short - most of the Left didn't give the slightest crap about things like the social work system and kids in it until Trump became involved in a way they could attack. This is DISGUSTING. Some of us have fought long and hard to fix this broken system and tried to do so for OUR OWN CITIZENS. But you didn't care. You didn't care when Obama was keeping children in poor conditions. It's not about morality for you,it's about Trump bashing, and it honestly nauseates me. Sorry, but we know what it is you actually care about guys, why didn't you care before?

Sure, sure...there are some hypocrites on the left.
But were you there for the proffered agenda or for company?
If philosophically & politically you're at home there then you
should considering staying....& just despising the hypocrites.
They need you to kick'm back in line, eh.

 

[metis]

Best thing to do IMO is cut yourself off from all politics.

Been heavily considering this.

I've done this at another website whereas I get involved in religious discussions but not political ones, plus we don't even discuss politics at my family events because of the danger of "explosions".

Even here at RF, I don't do politics as often as I used to, plus I've learned that a few here and I are too much like oil & water, so I pretty much avoid any discussions that I think could explode.

However, once in a while...

 

[Nakosis]

However, once in a while...

Yeah, me too. It's too easy to get drawn back in.

 

[1137]

Lol it's already been explained to you before that Trump isn't responsible for the relative neutralisation of IS nor for the jobless rate among minorities. The fact you seem unable to build an argument without a foundation of PRATTs, and simply start a new thread when those PRATTs are once again refuted, suggests you're not being completely straight with us about your intent.

If you think change in leadership has no effect that is, of course, up to you. You're peers already proved in this thread that reality isn't of interest to them. But I actually didn't say Trump magically did those things all by himself (because I actually understand how things work), just that we're' not even allowed to discuss them because they inevitably get tied to the current presidency. It's really very sad.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

If you think change in leadership has no effect that is, of course, up to you. You're peers already proved in this thread that reality isn't of interest to them. But I actually didn't say Trump magically did those things all by himself (because I actually understand how things work), just that we're' not even allowed to discuss them because they inevitably get tied to the current presidency. It's really very sad.

You're the one who brought them up in an OP about the current President. If you "understand how things work" why bring them up?

 

[1137]

You're the one who brought them up in an OP about the current President. If you "understand how things work" why bring them up?

Right because Trump is part of the world in which this occurs, it's happening during his presidency. Korea is one thing we can't leave Trump out of no matter how hard we cry about it, he's the one who wouldn't keep the status quo. But nope, you guys would probably say all these good things are bad before risking a nod in Trump's direction. This is illustrated well in #3 - you guys don't actually care about what right you care about being against Trump, which is why you folks didn't give the slightest crap about our child care system until now

 

[Quetzal]

You guys are really full on reality deniers aren't you. Like, even beloved CNN is aware of this. Black unemployment rate hits a record low

See #2

You are trying to build a scare crow and attempting to change the subject. I'll do it for you and go do something else.

 

[suncowiam]

1. The Trump decapitation. Remember that, when a comedian decapitated a fake Trump? Nobody cared. People defended it by comparing it to the right hanging Obama in the last presidency. Guess what guys, if it's wrong to fake murder a president in one situation it is in all. A rational person would be disgusted at both but no, not the left.when Republicans do it it's morally wrong but when they do it it's a valid statement to be celebrated. There is no morality, only what works for the left at the time.

2. Nothing good can be recognized if it may be tied to Trump. When's the last time ISIL headlined? Did you know unemployment is down especially for minorities? Hey there's a chance the Korean war may end? And what's that you say, the opiod epidemic is finally being addressed? Who cares, Trump can only be tied to evil! It's absolutely absurd. This is so emotional and irrational it's nothing but embarrassing.

3. Let's keep it short - most of the Left didn't give the slightest crap about things like the social work system and kids in it until Trump became involved in a way they could attack. This is DISGUSTING. Some of us have fought long and hard to fix this broken system and tried to do so for OUR OWN CITIZENS. But you didn't care. You didn't care when Obama was keeping children in poor conditions. It's not about morality for you,it's about Trump bashing, and it honestly nauseates me. Sorry, but we know what it is you actually care about guys, why didn't you care before?

One person displayed a fake bloody head and you believe all the left agreed with her.

Seriously? Never occurred to you that some of the left also found that despicable and in bad taste?

I sure did. I still don't understand why she believes shes a victim. That's not what I support as someone that consistently votes left.

Most of your arguments are assumptions and generalizations. I'll wait until you mature a bit more for us to further discuss.

 

[1137]

You are trying to build a scare crow and attempting to change the subject. I'll do it for you and go do something else.

So you chastise me for not providing a source, I do, and you bail, just like how you blocked another user pointing out reality to you.

 

[1137]

One person displayed a fake bloody head and you believe all the left agreed with her.

Seriously? Never occurred to you that some of the left also found that despicable and in bad taste?

I sure did. I still don't understand why she believes shes a victim. That's not what I support as someone that consistently votes left.

Most of your arguments are assumptions and generalizations. I'll wait until you mature a bit more for us to further discuss.

Interesting so nothing against 2 and 3. Thanks!

 

[suncowiam]

Interesting so nothing against 2 and 3. Thanks!

Again, I said you're generalizing.

2.
Trump has done good things. I'll admit to that. The economy is up but frankly, IMO, he sacrificed a bit on the social and environmental side to do so. I've commented elsewhere that a government can easily focus on economy but if they can improve social, environmental and other areas while raising economy, then more praises to them.

3.
This is just another point of you generalizing.
Do you seriously believe that the left does not really care about social issues like the children being separated from their parents? Is it only about politics?
First, get your facts straight. Obama only separated children from illegal immigrants that was guilty of other crimes, particularly violent crimes. That was his line of differentiation. He did not separate all illegal immigrants particular those that were seeking asylum. This is a huge difference.

You're the one making all these issues black and white. Point the finger at yourself.

 

[Yerda]

*Insults teamwork, is part of the still existent human species that thrived on teamwork.* Like wtf?

I'm not sure how it's possible to misread what I wrote as insulting teamwork.

 

[1137]

Now that Trump signed an executive order to keep families together, I'm curious how you guys will spin it. Can't wait!

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

I'm not sure how it's possible to misread what I wrote as insulting teamwork.

You'd be amazed what it's possible to misread when you want to argue against points that people never made.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Right because Trump is part of the world in which this occurs, it's happening during his presidency. Korea is one thing we can't leave Trump out of no matter how hard we cry about it, he's the one who wouldn't keep the status quo. But nope, you guys would probably say all these good things are bad before risking a nod in Trump's direction. This is illustrated well in #3 - you guys don't actually care about what right you care about being against Trump, which is why you folks didn't give the slightest crap about our child care system until now

Here's a wild idea, maybe try commenting on things people actually say?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The Trump decapitation. Remember that, when a comedian decapitated a fake Trump? Nobody cared.

Kathy Giffird was harshly punished, and had the remainder of a comedy tour she was on cancelled. It wrecked her pretty hard.

When's the last time ISIL headlined?

Trump had nothing to do with that. ISIS was mostly defeated militarily before Obama's term ended, and even he didn't do that much against ISIS. Credit for this one belongs to the Iraqis, Kurds, and others who fought against them to reclaim one city after another.

Did you know unemployment is down especially for minorities?

That trend didn't start under Trump.

Hey there's a chance the Korean war may end?

It'll be good if it happens. But what has Trump done to deserve credit other than bark at "Rocket Man?" NK's nuclear development is pretty much on hold indefinitely, and we have no idea what Un's goals really are.

And what's that you say, the opiod epidemic is finally being addressed?

People have been talking about it. However, most people, including Trump, aren't really doing anything about it.

3. Let's keep it short - most of the Left didn't give the slightest crap about things like the social work system and kids in it until Trump became involved in a way they could attack.

It works that way with Right Winged media as well.

 

[idav]

Funny you didn't care about US children and the kids in the system here, but now care about illegal immigrants because it's a way to attack Trump.

That’s why people complain about the current administration and GOP supporting the taking medical funds of poor children. The Trump base heinous policies don’t stop with only going after foreign children. Trump base doesn’t care about children once they leave the womb.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Trump base doesn’t care about children once they leave the womb.

That's pretty much the Republican party. The unborn are sacred. The born are on their own.

 

[metis]

That's pretty much the Republican party. The unborn are sacred. The born are on their own.

Exactly, and if there's any doubt about that all one has to do is to remember this administration's opposition to the CHIP program and the ACA, and their undercutting of public education that the vast majority of our kids are in.