The Mark

[Treasure Hunter]

After Cain makes his offer to God, gets his hopes up, and ultimately gets rejected by God, Cain becomes enraged and kills his brother. After this, he gets marked as a threat to God and becomes an aimless wanderer with no meaning in his life.

I’ve talked about how one can derive meaning by seeking revenge against God, but this cannot happen for someone who God has marked as a threat. God doesn’t want you to seek revenge against him and he is no chump.

If you’ve been marked, meaning that God has noticed anger in your heart which has threatened him in the past, then God isn’t going to allow you to believe in him. You will become an atheist and God will make you believe that you came to that position through your own doing.

In order to derive the meaning that comes from seeking revenge against God for injustice, you must first lose the mark. You must learn how to become shrewd as a serpent and innocent as a dove. You must become a sheep and learn how to hide the wolf even from yourself.. without forgetting.

 

[Treasure Hunter]

In order to derive the meaning that comes from seeking revenge against God for injustice, you must first lose the mark.

Before you can lose the mark, you have to first be willing to consider that you have been marked. This means you have to be willing to consider that you are not lord, that you are not the one who holds sovereignty over your life.

 

[Twilight Hue]

After Cain makes his offer to God, gets his hopes up, and ultimately gets rejected by God, Cain becomes enraged and kills his brother. After this, he gets marked as a threat to God and becomes an aimless wanderer with no meaning in his life.

I’ve talked about how one can derive meaning by seeking revenge against God, but this cannot happen for someone who God has marked as a threat. God doesn’t want you to seek revenge against him and he is no chump.

If you’ve been marked, meaning that God has noticed anger in your heart which has threatened him in the past, then God isn’t going to allow you to believe in him. You will become an atheist and God will make you believe that you came to that position through your own doing.

In order to derive the meaning that comes from seeking revenge against God for injustice, you must first lose the mark. You must learn how to become shrewd as a serpent and innocent as a dove. You must become a sheep and learn how to hide the wolf even from yourself.. without forgetting.

Good Lord, even though I'm not a Christian anymore I've always enjoyed this crazy stuff.

 

[Treasure Hunter]

Good Lord, even though I'm not a Christian anymore I've always enjoyed this crazy stuff.

If your faith is not being stretched and tested, you’re likely to find yourself stuck. This is not even the crazy stuff.

 

[AdamjEdgar]

This is a most unusual theology...God prevents someone from believing?

The saints of Revelation 14.12 are those with 2 qualities

1. Keep the commandments
2. Have the faith of Jesus

That's it.

 

[Treasure Hunter]

This is a most unusual theology...God prevents someone from believing?

A human individual is not singular but multiple. There’s a part of you that doubts, which feels anger towards God in your lowest moments. This one is kept imprisoned in the basement.

Is it not written that all will eventually bow down and confess the truth? This includes all parts of you.

 

[PureX]

The mark was self-inflicted. A man tries to be super-righteous in the eyes of his God (egotism) and fails. Blames God for it. And then becomes angry, resentful, and dejected. A ‘negative force’ in the world. Aimless because the goal he chose was false and failed, and the man in question didn’t learn from this failure because he blamed God instead. He marked himself and remains marked by his own stupid arrogance.

 

[AdamjEdgar]

A human individual is not singular but multiple. There’s a part of you that doubts, which feels anger towards God in your lowest moments. This one is kept imprisoned in the basement.

Is it not written that all will eventually bow down and confess the truth? This includes all parts of you.

Sorry but I'm not following this theology. Christs cloak of righteous envelops us sinners and we appear righteous. It does not mean we are without sin.
Better to keep this one simple I think.

 

[Treasure Hunter]

Sorry but I'm not following this theology. Christs cloak of righteous envelops us sinners and we appear righteous.
Better to keep this one simple I think.

It’s a personal choice whether or not someone chooses to play the game on easy mode and follow the wide path. Every Christian plays a small part in advancing the story, but you can’t win the game, as Jesus did, unless you play on the highest difficulty level.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

It was a tattoo of a honey-baked ham on his calf, hence the term hamstringed.

 

[Treasure Hunter]

It was a tattoo of a honey-baked ham on his calf, hence the term hamstringed.

So you decided to make a post declaring your intention to add me to your ignore list but not actually do it. Got it.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

So you decided to make a post declaring your intention to add me to your ignore list but not actually do it. Got it.

Huh?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

If you’ve been marked, meaning that God has noticed anger in your heart which has threatened him in the past, then God isn’t going to allow you to believe in him. You will become an atheist and God will make you believe that you came to that position through your own doing.

Sure. Blame atheists and portray a god as someone very terribly petty and so detrimentally insecure thathe gets upset over what us mere humans do.
Must mean either god is weaker than he wants us thinking or we are capable of greatness beyond what we've realized (and Jehovah himself says he's jealous).

 

[F1fan]

After Cain makes his offer to God, gets his hopes up, and ultimately gets rejected by God, Cain becomes enraged and kills his brother.

Didn't God know this would happen if he rejected Cain? If so, then God could have stopped it.

After this, he gets marked as a threat to God and becomes an aimless wanderer with no meaning in his life.

Then this must have been what God intended.

I’ve talked about how one can derive meaning by seeking revenge against God, but this cannot happen for someone who God has marked as a threat. God doesn’t want you to seek revenge against him and he is no chump.

How does a mortal threaten God? How can a mortal get revenge?

If you’ve been marked, meaning that God has noticed anger in your heart which has threatened him in the past, then God isn’t going to allow you to believe in him.

Confusing language. If God is real then no one has to believe. All belief means uncertainty, so is God hiding and playing games with humans?

You will become an atheist and God will make you believe that you came to that position through your own doing.

So it's God doing, and playing games. That's not moral.

In order to derive the meaning that comes from seeking revenge against God for injustice, you must first lose the mark. You must learn how to become shrewd as a serpent and innocent as a dove. You must become a sheep and learn how to hide the wolf even from yourself.. without forgetting.

And how is any of this real? Everything you wrote has no basis in fact. So are you just talking to your fellow Christians, and to the rest of us this is irrelevant?

 

[Treasure Hunter]

If the choice is between (a) a chance at revenge or (b) a life of quiet desperation, a man chooses (a) every time because it’s actually meaningful rather than meaningless.

The only way a man chooses (b) is if he allows himself to be deluded and deceived. When the deluded man gets knocked back by a reality check, he is given an opportunity to sober up, realize he has been living a life of quiet desperation, and become aware of the deception. At this point, he can choose the blue pill (delusion) or he can choose the red pill.

 

[Treasure Hunter]

If the choice is between (a) a chance at revenge or (b) a life of quiet desperation, a man chooses (a) every time because it’s actually meaningful rather than meaningless.

The only way a man chooses (b) is if he allows himself to be deluded and deceived. When the deluded man gets knocked back by a reality check, he is given an opportunity to sober up, realize he has been living a life of quiet desperation, and become aware of the deception. At this point, he can choose the blue pill (delusion) or he can choose the red pill.

Does nobody recognize the reality I’m describing here?

 

[Brickjectivity]

In order to derive the meaning that comes from seeking revenge against God for injustice, you must first lose the mark. You must learn how to become shrewd as a serpent and innocent as a dove. You must become a sheep and learn how to hide the wolf even from yourself.. without forgetting.

I say: differentiate between the god of this natural world and the God which can be imposed to replace the god of this world. The god of this cruel world is that which made it, but we can impose a belief that God is love and is replacing the god of this world which is fading away to nothing. I am not saying that anger is a virtue, but this world is cruel. Anger is reasonable, though we should control that anger.

If you’ve been marked, meaning that God has noticed anger in your heart which has threatened him in the past, then God isn’t going to allow you to believe in him. You will become an atheist and God will make you believe that you came to that position through your own doing.

I think anger is one of the things given to us by the god of this world: our natural world with its millions of years of evolution. The God who is love is imposed from heaven to replace the god of this world, to change this world. If I am angry with either god or God, that comes from my biological background. I have to wrestle it, but even if I fail I can keep trying.

Its easy to get angry when I am reared to think God is going to take care of me only to find that God cares through me and takes care of people through people. It can be hurtful when the promises of tens of thousands of people turn into fluff, and suddenly I am faced with a cold world that I am supposed to heat up with a tiny candle. Of course I will get angry. That is a pie in the face, a bucket over the door and a tack in my shoe all at once. Its astonishing than any men remain in the churches at all. But it does not turn me into an atheist at all. Rather it exposes the old wives tales and tells me what they are: what that passage about old wives tales is about.

After Cain makes his offer to God, gets his hopes up, and ultimately gets rejected by God, Cain becomes enraged and kills his brother. After this, he gets marked as a threat to God and becomes an aimless wanderer with no meaning in his life.

I’ve talked about how one can derive meaning by seeking revenge against God, but this cannot happen for someone who God has marked as a threat. God doesn’t want you to seek revenge against him and he is no chump.

The anger in Cain makes him kill his brother. Maybe Cain is given the chance through wanderings to learn some self control.

To finish let me bring up Balaam, the man who gets angry with a talking donkey that objects to what he is doing: allowing himself to be tempted by money to betray good people. He proceeds to allow himself to be tempted and fails the test, and he betrays. He reportedly is the cause of centuries of suffering and trouble throughout the known world even today. Almost all of our troubles might be traced back to him. He should have known that bribe money bends the mind, makes the person bend, weakens the character of the being.

One good Balaam can save the world, so let each one determine not to be bent either by anger nor by bribes.

 

[AdamjEdgar]

It’s a personal choice whether or not someone chooses to play the game on easy mode and follow the wide path. Every Christian plays a small part in advancing the story, but you can’t win the game, as Jesus did, unless you play on the highest difficulty level.

i am a very deep theological thinker...however, i am not following the theology on this. You need to explain it a little more and use some biblical cross referencing to support your theology so i can follow it.