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The most beautiful story ever told

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Bthoth

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Quintessence said:
It is if one does not understand that change, cycles, transformations are necessary for existence as we know it. There is no making without unmaking. Or at least this is what the sciences tell us. Matter and energy are never created or destroyed, they are only recycled endlessly within the universe. The same stuff of all extinct species is within the atoms of you and me. They are our ancestors in a very direct and literal way - they are in us, they are us.
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Almost biblical: John 14:20 In that day you shall know, that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you.
Quintessence said:
Every moment of every day. Every moment of every day, countless biological organisms mutate, replicate, die. Biological evolution will only stop when all biology on this planet does. Even then, it is not terribly hard to surmise that biological organisms undoubtedly exist in other spaces within the apparent universe given the laws of probability.
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Probability is not the best theory for that. How about the laws of nature? Such that if life evolved here based on natural processes, then those same principles and processes will exist throughout the universe.
 
Jimmy

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Quintessence said:
It is if one does not understand that change, cycles, transformations are necessary for existence as we know it. There is no making without unmaking. Or at least this is what the sciences tell us. Matter and energy are never created or destroyed, they are only recycled endlessly within the universe. The same stuff of all extinct species is within the atoms of you and me. They are our ancestors in a very direct and literal way - they are in us, they are us.



Every moment of every day. Every moment of every day, countless biological organisms mutate, replicate, die. Biological evolution will only stop when all biology on this planet does. Even then, it is not terribly hard to surmise that biological organisms undoubtedly exist in other spaces within the apparent universe given the laws of probability.
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Haha atoms. The dinosaurs are gone. I don’t care about their atoms.

And I’m talking about noticeable changes
 
Nimos

Nimos

Well-Known Member
King Phenomenon said:
Anyone here know the last noticeable sign of evolution?
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Just wondering, when you think about evolution are you one of those that are expecting to see a crocaduck?

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And if you don't see that then evolution is bullocks?
 
Quintessence

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Bthoth said:
Probability is not the best theory for that. How about the laws of nature? Such that if life evolved here based on natural processes, then those same principles and processes will exist throughout the universe.
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That's what I meant. Given what we know about the universe and natural processes on a limited scale, it is inconceivably improbable that there isn't life on other planets even though humans have no direct observations of other planets having life. So inconceivably improbable that it is more or less a certainty that life exists elsewhere than planet Earth.
King Phenomenon said:
And I’m talking about noticeable changes
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Then spend more time studying life science. You'll definitely notice it. The examples are really that abundant once you understand what you are looking at when, say, you are looking at all the different cultivars of flowers in a garden center.
 
Jimmy

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Nimos said:
Just wondering, when you think about evolution are you one of those that are expecting to see a crocaduck?

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And if you don't see that then evolution is bullocks?
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ChristineM said:
There are probably more but the Langkawi bent toed gecko is being observed at the moment. It is/was a forest dwelling animal that is evolving/evolved into cave dwelling.

More info...
Reptile Evolution | Langkawi bent-toed gecko - Reptile Apartment
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Cool
 
Nimos

Nimos

Well-Known Member
King Phenomenon said:
Are you one of those people that’s…. Nevermind
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It wasn't meant as an insult or to make fun of you, this was an actual objection put forward by some who think evolution is false.


And given your question and the replies to people here, seems to suggest that you might not have been presented with evidence for evolution by actual biologists by rather from people like these. Which could explain why you concluded that it is wrong.
 
Jimmy

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Nimos said:
It wasn't meant as an insult or to make fun of you, this was an actual objection put forward by some who think evolution is false.


And given your question and the replies to people here, seems to suggest that you might not have been presented with evidence for evolution by actual biologists by rather from people like these. Which could explain why you concluded that it is wrong.
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I conclude that it’s wrong because I believe that god created existence and all we see in a nano second
But like I said I think it’s still the most beautiful story of fiction ever told imo
 
Nimos

Nimos

Well-Known Member
King Phenomenon said:
I conclude that it’s wrong because I believe that god created existence and all we see in a nano second
But like I said I think it’s still the most beautiful story of fiction ever told imo
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Fair enough. If I understand you correctly, you couldn't care less about evidence and proof. Do you accept that gravity is real or is that also just fiction? And if you do, why is the evidence here good enough or even relevant, but not when it comes to evolution?
 
Jimmy

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Nimos said:
Fair enough. If I understand you correctly, you couldn't care less about evidence and proof. Do you accept that gravity is real or is that also just fiction? And if you do, why is the evidence here good enough or even relevant, but not when it comes to evolution?
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Haha. I just ate some real toast
 
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