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The Most Crucial Flaws Of Christianity And Atheism
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Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Most crucial flaw in Christianity? It's not true.
Most crucial fall in Atheism? It's not a belief.
Most crucial fall in Atheism? It's not a belief.
Christians and atheists, what do you see as the most crucial flaw in each others belief system?
And don't be shy about it, but
BE NICE
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Flaw in Christianity - Trusting people you have no reason to be trusting.
Flaw in Atheism - Nobody seems to be able to agree on exactly what it is.
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Skwim
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The most crucial flaw.....
Atheism: The empty set.
Christianity: Imposition of dysfunctional morality upon the unwilling.
Atheism: The empty set.
Christianity: Imposition of dysfunctional morality upon the unwilling.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
Christians and atheists, what do you see as the most crucial flaw in each other's position?
And don't be shy about it, but
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Both go off of generalizations of each other reflecting their views of their personal experiences rather than asking each other what they believe without thought of the word christian or atheist being a label of their beliefs and worldviews.
Christian challenges are to ask people what they believe without basing other peoples answers off the bible rather than that other persons criteria of truth.
Another challenge for christians is to see life in another persons shoes and help themselves believe even if they do their beliefs wont be compromised nor weakened when done.
Atheists need to understand not all christians reflect the experiences they may have with christians growing up
Atheists also need to consider that their definition of god is not always the christians definition even though the same word is used
Atheists need to base their arguments on the criteria to which christians hold X is true and not debate the details that come from it. (attack the source not the result)
Atheists may also find it best to look into the christians shoes when discussing scripture
Christians need to understand biblical quoting is not the same as discussion regardless if you want to support your points or use it to debate
As for christianity and atheism, there arent any flaws in both worldviews just how the believers and people tend to express them based on their own bias and experiences.
Atheism: a momentary transitional state which occurs in between religious and political ideas, more of a tunnel than a critter.
Christianity: Practically perfect in every way.
Christianity: Practically perfect in every way.
Christians and atheists, what do you see as the most crucial flaw in each other's position?
And don't be shy about it, but
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Atheism might be flawed in the sense that it arose out of a rejection of theism. If no one ever heard of God or religion and we were just dealing with life as is, then we would still be atheists - but we wouldn't actually call ourselves that. There wouldn't be any need to call it anything at all. The only reason to identify as "atheist" is because there are those who identify as "theists" (or some variation thereof). If not for that, then we'd just be people.
As for Christianity (or any other religion, for that matter), the main flaw I see is in the expression of absolute certainty of belief. That they are so certain that their beliefs are true is the main problem, and it seems to feed into the reaction of atheists who are convinced that those beliefs are not true.
I actually think both sides can peacefully coexist, especially since no one really knows about the "Great Beyond." The only thing that really matters is whether people are consistent and true to their stated beliefs and principles, whatever they might be.
Audie
Veteran Member
Haha
Audie
Veteran Member
But you, you are a True Godsman?
Uniquely so, like all the rest.
Atheists know far more about "god" than you ever will.
IYHOBut you, you are a True Godsman?
Uniquely so, like all the rest.
Atheists know far more about "god" than you ever will.
Most crucial flaw in Christianity is hard to answer. There's enormous diversity in Christian dogma. So perhaps I'll go with 'giving people a reason to abbrogate personal moral responsibility and consideration.'
Atheism is tough, as it doesn't mean much at all, so I think I'll go with 'People (particularly atheists) making too much of it, treating it like a philosophy or badge.'
Prime example was the suggestion by Dawkins of using the term 'Brights'. That is vomit-inducing, insensitive, but (most importantly) inaccurate.
Atheism is tough, as it doesn't mean much at all, so I think I'll go with 'People (particularly atheists) making too much of it, treating it like a philosophy or badge.'
Prime example was the suggestion by Dawkins of using the term 'Brights'. That is vomit-inducing, insensitive, but (most importantly) inaccurate.
Misunderstood
Active Member
I have to agree with Brickjectivity "Christianity: Practically perfect in every way." Except for the sins we commit.
Atheists, just don't give God any credit; because if there was no God they would not exist.
Atheists, just don't give God any credit; because if there was no God they would not exist.
Jim
Nets of Wonder
Being and acting human.
PureX
Veteran Member
Someone should probably point out that the antithetical to atheism is not Christianity.
The main problem with Christianity is that the religion becomes it's own object of worship. It deifies itself.
The problem with atheism is that it rejects significant positive possibility for no logical reason and for no discernible gain.
The main problem with Christianity is that the religion becomes it's own object of worship. It deifies itself.
The problem with atheism is that it rejects significant positive possibility for no logical reason and for no discernible gain.
Most crucial flaw in Christianity? The fundamentalists who reject the theism of other faiths.
Most crucial flaw in Atheism? Its fundamental position of rejecting theism.
Most crucial flaw in Atheism? Its fundamental position of rejecting theism.
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GoodbyeDave
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Both: lack of evidence.
As St Paul said, the resurection is crucial to Christianity, but nobody saw it happen — all they saw was an empty tomb.
As for atheists, what evidence could you present for the nonexistence of anything? The atheists present even weaker arguments than the Christians: to get personal, look up to Audie's contribution. What does "haha" contribute? It's like a tweet from Trump!
As St Paul said, the resurection is crucial to Christianity, but nobody saw it happen — all they saw was an empty tomb.
As for atheists, what evidence could you present for the nonexistence of anything? The atheists present even weaker arguments than the Christians: to get personal, look up to Audie's contribution. What does "haha" contribute? It's like a tweet from Trump!
Skwim
Veteran Member
And that's why the burden of proof always lies with the party making the positive assertion. If you said that winged, polka dot unicorns don't exist, a negative assertion, would you feel you have an obligation or responsibility to "prove" your position?
All the atheist needs to argue is that the theists/deists have failed to "prove" their case.
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Audie
Veteran Member
Contributes nothing to those who are immune to insight.
Take your notion that there is a one to one equivalency
between the assertion of the existence of somethinhg
despite a 100% lack of one freakin' datum point
in its favour, and, the rather sensible disinclination to
believe in such things.
Like, say, Batboy, the lost continent of Mu, the Invisible
Pyramid, the secret ongoing life of Elvis, and the
efficacy of Alchemy?
It is just as legit to believe, as to not believe?
Surely you are joking.
I supplied the haha.
But you dont get the joke, it being on you.