The Musk Melt-down

[Revoltingest]

Is my reasoning wrong?

It has long been confusing.
Where you stand on many things,
eg, Putin, Russia, Christianity, liberty, NATO,
socialism, capitalism, have seemed murky.

 

[Revoltingest]

The early computer era was like that. The list of companies that failed is a mile long while I have enough fingers to count the survivors.

I worked in the auto (actually truck) industry.
Oh, the things I saw.

 

[sun rise]

Freedom of speech has to do with the freedom to state any idea or any opinion, with the exception of insulting individuals with swears, slurs and lies. You cannot use free speech to target individuals and hurt them in any way.

That is not the law as Trump proves every day.

The problem that Twitter had before Musk, was it was run by the Left and they used it to silence free speech, but only on the Right.

The right wing insists on putting lies and insults at the same level of truth and complains about those who choose truth over lies and even gaslighting.

 

[We Never Know]

Musk gives Twitter workers deadline to decide job fate

"Elon Musk says Twitter is a software and servers company at its heart and wants employees to decide by Thursday evening if they want to remain a part of the business, according to an email the new owner sent to Twitter workers."

Musk gives Twitter workers deadline to decide job fate

 

[Estro Felino]

It has long been confusing.
Where you stand on many things,
eg, Putin, Russia, Christianity, liberty, NATO,
socialism, capitalism, have seemed murky.

They are not opinions. It's things studied on a Macroeconomics manual for university.
Written by British economists, of course. So the vision of economy, of society is light years away different, overseas.
Home - Emeritus Professor David Begg

 

[Revoltingest]

They are not opinions.

So you have only indisputable facts, eh.
I have only opinions.

Well....I have a few facts, eg...
Russian invaded Ukraine.
Evolution is a useful theory.
Trump is a boor. <--- Opinion so well supported that it rises to the level of factuality.

 

[Estro Felino]

Good to know that you have only indisputable facts.
I have only opinions.

So do I.
I like discussing them.

 

[LuisDantas]

I haven't figured out yet why Twitter is considered a news outlet.
It is not. It is a social platform where people express opinions and share them.

A random Twitter user is not supposed to broadcast or convey any information or any news.
He just tweets random things.

Twitter indeed isn't a news outlet.

It is, however, a source of news. And it has an unavoidable duty to care for the quality of its information.

Perhaps more relevant still is that its perceived value is a direct result of its policies regarding content. And giving free reign to spreaders of hateful lies just isn't good by any defensable perspective.

 

[Estro Felino]

Twitter indeed isn't a news outlet.

It is, however, a source of news. And it has an unavoidable duty to care for the quality of its information.

Perhaps more relevant still is that its perceived value is a direct result of its policies regarding content. And giving free reign to spreaders of hateful lies just isn't good by any defensable perspective.

If you give me an example of hateful lie, I can understand what we are dealing it.

 

[Father Heathen]

Well there's no doubt it's a biased platform. I think there should always be two sides to a coin with equal access proper.

Validity is determined by evidence and logic. Not all points of view are equal, especially if they're dishonest and irresponsible.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Validity is determined by evidence and logic. Not all points of view are equal, especially if they're dishonest and irresponsible.

I'm not against them being expressed.

Just because one person dosent view things through the lens of another and dosent like it, dosent justify censorship of another person's opposing view.
.

 

[Kenny]

You've missed the news stories about the actual events.

I don't trust too much on news stories. If, as we can see, a left leaning organization has been taken we are over by someone who wants to move the organization in a different direction, upset people will talk trash, they will say "I am being starved", they will want to throw up in a waster paper basket, say that he bought it to destroy it, and probably sabotage any effort.

So while the mud is slinging, I think we should wait and see what happens.

 

[Father Heathen]

I'm not against them being expressed.

Just because one person dosent view things through the lens of another and dosent like it, dosent justify censorship of another person's opposing view.
.

A business isn't the government, so it can allow or disallow whatever it likes on its platform. A restaurant would kick you out for screaming slurs at servers and other customers. Is that a violation of free speech? It's telling how conservatives support businesses refusing service to homosexuals (example: wedding cakes), but not to bigots.

 

[Father Heathen]

I don't trust too much on news stories. If, as we can see, a left leaning organization has been taken we are over by someone who wants to move the organization in a different direction, upset people will talk trash, they will say "I am being starved", they will want to throw up in a waster paper basket, say that he bought it to destroy it, and probably sabotage any effort.

So while the mud is slinging, I think we should wait and see what happens.

How is Twitter "left leaning", unless you're suggesting opposing bigotry and disinformation is exclusively a left thing?
Also, dismissing well substantiated sources just because they don't affirm your ideological narrative is dishonest and infantile.

 

[Yerda]

Random accusations of pedophilia & other goofy
public behavior were just the tip of the iceberg.
Then he spends $44,000,000,000 to buy Twitter,
only to completely **** it all up.

Tis as though he's trying to John Galt his new
business....
- Driving away advertisers by allowing Twitter to
become a hostile unmoderated environment.
- Charging for user verification, but without any
user verification.
- Loudly proclaiming freedom of speech, but
firing any who dare criticize him.
Elon Musk Fires Twitter Employees After Ordering Their Tweets and Messages Scoured for Criticism: Report

He seems desperate to prove that no amount of money can protect an idiot from themselves.

 

[Kenny]

How is Twitter "left leaning", unless you're suggesting opposing bigotry and disinformation is exclusively a left thing?
Also, dismissing well substantiated sources just because they don't affirm your ideological narrative is dishonest and infantile.

This seems more like a "the best defense is a strong offense" than offering anything substantive. How you went from point a to z without any logic just because it doesn't affirm your ideological narrative would be... well, you fill in the blanks.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

- Charging for user verification, but without any
user verification.

Is that what that Jesus thing, where he has his own verified account, was about?

 

[Revoltingest]

Is that what that Jesus thing, where he has his own verified account, was about?

Yes.
It very likely wasn't Jesus.
But some guy paid the 8 bucks.

 

[Father Heathen]

This seems more like a "the best defense is a strong offense" than offering anything substantive. How you went from point a to z without any logic just because it doesn't affirm your ideological narrative would be... well, you fill in the blanks.

What an odd non sequitur.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

They are not opinions. It's things studied on a Macroeconomics manual for university.
Written by British economists, of course. So the vision of economy, of society is light years away different, overseas.
Home - Emeritus Professor David Begg

So, he reads tea leaves and casts runesticks?