The Nation of Islam is Not Islam (NOI Cult and Louis Farrakhan Exposed)

[fullyveiled muslimah]

In English we say, "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy; All play and no work makes Jack a mere toy'." What that means is that one needs to have balance between "deadly serious" times and "light-hearted" times. To do otherwise simply leads to psychological/spiritual imbalance.

That's not what the quote means. It doesn't mean muslims cannot have a sense of humor or have times where they are relaxed and having enjoyment. The quote meant that iman is to be taken seriously, not something that can be played about. It is serious at all times about what a muslim believes in his/her heart and to safegaurd their iman all the time. Islam is about striking a balance for all that a muslim does, even striking a balance with the worship as well. The prophet did warn us of going to any extreme and to stay a moderate course for all things including our Islam.

 

[fullyveiled muslimah]

However, technically you are correct and they are not Muslim's per se, but the reality is that getting them to agree with you will be rather difficult.

It's not difficult at all. Mnay of them will tell you that they are not muslims. Most have no problem to admit that fact. However they still operate under the guise of Islam, which is dishonest to say the least.

 

[love]

If you recite the Shadadah and then recant it isn't that worthy of death now and hell fire for eternity?
Someone should help save his soul from that hell or leave it up to God.

 

[Booko]

i will never understand racism , secondly the man insults and abuses Islam , he claims to be a Muslim he names himself and his followers muslims , so he comes on our field , he slanders and abuses islam , so no i wont respect or even try to understand a person that intentionally insults my religion , the only way to approach such a deviant racist is by exposing him and showing people the what Islam really means and preaches , and not the teachings of some Nationalist self appointed Minister , by using and abusing the name of Islam he insulted and attacked the whole muslim community , if he would made up his own cult and called it Nation Of Africanism for example and he wouldnt claim to be a muslim then i would ignore him , but he intentionally slanders Islam

So, how exactly does this make you any different from, say, an anti-LDS "missionary"?

I can understand a critique of NoI that compares it to normative Islam. I'm well aware there are elements of NoI that appear to be very much in conflict with the Qu'ran.

However, I don't see how bandying terms like "cult" about do much to make your point, unless the point is to appear somewhat trollish.

 

[Booko]

as for Khomeini , i am not a follower of Khomeini because many of his teachings contradict islam , some of his teachings are even insultive and not islamic

If Khomeini were still alive, I'm sure he would say the same thing about your beliefs.

 

[Grappleberry Punch]

I'm not a "Farrakhani", and it's totally up to you to decide what your definition of "real Islam" is. NOI is to Islam what Mormonism is to Christianity, afaic.

"Black Nationalism" was extremely relevent at the time when the USA was a White racist nation...seperation was seen as needed so Black people could have their own government, and wouldn't be under the power of oppressive white people. It helped a lot of people, spiritually, economically, politically. It should be taken as a religion from that context, and it's best to consider it as almost political movement with religious overtones.

I don't know where you got your information about NOI, but they do uphold the five pillars...their interpretations might be different but I KNOW they pray five times a day, for example. I think the major difference is definitely the idea of God Incarnate and the final prophecy.

No one thinks Farkarran represents Islam either, so you know. They do tend to think of people like Osama bin Laden when they think of Islam, but I suppose you don't have a problem with that, so ok.

Malcolm X May Allah have mercy on his soul : became a Muslim at the end of his life he saw that Islam is totally different then the Racist cult called Nation of Islam

He became a Muslim because he saw that white people in the Middle East were totally different than the real racist white people that were predominant in the US at the time. He saw that a multiracial religious brotherhood was possible, where before it seemed impossible to him. Because of real racist people running the US at the time.

 

[Ever learning]

Tom Cruise?

Could we take Brad Pitt instead?

 

[Ever learning]

He became a Muslim because he saw that white people in the Middle East were totally different than the real racist white people that were predominant in the US at the time. He saw that a multiracial religious brotherhood was possible, where before it seemed impossible to him. Because of real racist people running the US at the time.

Thank´s for mentioning Malcolm X, a very god example.

 

[fullyveiled muslimah]

It helped a lot of people, spiritually, economically, politically. It should be taken as a religion from that context, and it's best to consider it as almost political movement with religious overtones.

That is exactly what it is. The problem that some muslims have is its association with Islam. The religious overtones are much more synonomous to christianity than anything else, with a slight islamic hint to it. I do agree that at the time it was seen as beneficial, and it did have some merit to it. However all in all, what it is is that farakhan is a con artist. Plain and simple. If you listen to some of the rhetoric he espouses when he is talking only to NOI members, it is really laiden with racist BS. I mean he still call the white man devils. How old is that?

While I agreed with the upliftment of blacks from the oppression they were under, I never advocated that one hatred should have been replaced by another. I think that was dangerous move and it has led to much closed mindedness and perpetuated racism, only now from blacks.

He became a Muslim because he saw that white people in the Middle East were totally different than the real racist white people that were predominant in the US at the time. He saw that a multiracial religious brotherhood was possible, where before it seemed impossible to him. Because of real racist people running the US at the time.

To add to that, he was also dis-enchanted with NOI, and came to realize the true nature of those in charge of it. This really kind of fueled his move to take the plight of blacks in America to a more international level, and consequently performed hajj, where he did get a spiritual connection to Islam as something universal, and as something that is not merely a political mindset.

 

[Abdullah al Hanafi]

dont forget to mention that he(shaheed Malcolm X) studied in mecca under Islamic Scholars they called him back to Islam
they explained and teached him islam after this he became a Muslim and left the NOI CULT

 

[sab631014]

First,you are confused on what the Religion of Islam is.The root of Islam is JUSTICE!Without the establishment of Justice,the religion the people practice is to be seen of men.So,in any society that they who called themselves muslims are afraid to stand up and speak truth in Allah's name to those powerful men and leaders,they are not believers in Allah,nor are they followers of the Prophet Muhammad.Because Muhammad ibn Adullah stood up against this tribe,which in turn they tried to kill him.

 

[Yahya]

The statement you made sounds like you are talking about yourself. You are not communicating any knowledge, you are just making accusations which have no basses in fact. To learn the facts visit, NOI.org or go to YOUTUBE and type in, Farrahkan - Understanding the Nation of Islam in the West.

 

[Yahya]

Get Wisdom, but most importantly get understanding. You can start by directing your questions to a qualified minister of the Nation of Islam. If you have a question you would like to ask me, just ask. Don't just make accusations. When you do that it tells me you are trying to create division among brothers.

 

[Yahya]

The Islam that you are talking about is no longer effective. Satan has interred the hearts of the Muslim scholars, and Imams of Islam. That is why Muslims are killing Muslims. That is why Prophet Muhammad said three generations after him would be no longer of him. So will the real Muslims please stand up! The Nation of Islam in the west is growing every day not by the sword but by PEACE.

 

[Yahyaa Waahid]

Greetings to you, Mr. al Hanafi,

I am not a NOI member but I believe in Minister Louis Farrakhan. Some of what you have posted is just plain lies and other things are misunderstandings. Let's go over some of what you claimed:

Louis Farrakhan and the Cult called : Nation of Islam Exposed

Let me begin with mentioning that based on Louis Farrakhan his believes he is Not a Muslim.

Islam is totally against Nationalism,Secularism,Racism

Minister Louis Farrakhan is against racism, which he declares is oppression based on race. And he does not believe in nationalism; what YOU must remember is that Allah says in the Qur'an that the Israelites are a "CHOSEN" people (Surah 44:32.) It also says that the Israelites are "FAVORED" by Allah (Surah 2:40.) Minister Farrakhan believes that the true Israelites are the American so-called Negroes, so if you are going to claim that he is a racist for saying that American so-called Negroes are chosen and favored by Allah, then you are claiming that Allah is a racist.

let us look what Prophet Mohammed said:

O People, All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over a black, nor a black has any superiority over a white - except by piety and good action.O People, No prophet or apostle will come after me and no new faith will be born. Reason well therefore, O people, and understand words which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the Quran and the Sunnah

source:The Farewell Sermon(mentioned in the Hadith books

The fact Sir, is that the Prophet said that the Messiah would appear after him (the Prophet.) Bukhari hadith, Book #43, Hadith #656:

Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you as a just ruler, he will break the cross, kill the pigs, and abolish the Jizya tax. Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it (as charitable gifts).

The Nation of Islam believes that W. Fard Muhammad is the expected Messiah.

let us look at the further differances between Islaam and Farrakhanism(Nation cult)

Islaam: adheres that Mohammed (peace be upon him) is the last prophet of Islaam, no messenger or prophet will come after Mohammed (peace be upon him).

Farrakhanism: believes that Elijah Mohamed was the messenger of God (are there any more messengers or prophets to come?? not clear).

As was just cited, the Prophet said that Jesus would come after him.

Islaam: adheres to the belief of One Unique Allaah ,God, never appeared in any physical form, hence no physical representation is possible.

Farrakhanism : believes that God appeared in the person of W. Fard Muhammed, July 1930; the Masiah of the Christians and the 'Mahdi' of the Muslims.

(note:anyone that claims to be a muslim and believes that Allah appeared in a person like the NOI and some Shia sects believe becomes a DISBELIEVER)

This doctrine that Allah does not dwell in man is FALSE, according to the Prophet's words. The Prophet said is hadith #25 of the Forty Hadith Qudsi:

Allah (mighty and sublime be He) said:


...My servant continues to draw near to Me with supererogatory works so that I shall love him. When I love him I am his hearing with which he hears, his seeing with which he sees, his hand with which he strikes and his foot with which he walks...

This tells us, like the Bible says, that Allah dwells in man.

Islaam believes: that life on earth as we know it will come to an end; it will be followed by the hereafter which includes physical resurrection of the entire humankind, judgement and the life of paradise or hell.

Farrakhanism: on the other hand believes that the resurrection of the dead , not a physical one, but in mental resurrection, no already physically dead person will be in hereafter, that is a slavery belief taught to slaves to keep them under control.

(note:Farrakhan his Sect went against the Quran multiple times this makes them also DISBELIEVERS)

Minister Farrakhan does not go against the Qur'an. The fact Sir (according to the hadith that was cited earlier,) is that "the Hour" is a specified period of time in the universe; it is not the time that each person dies, but it is period of time in the universe when this old evil world (system of living) will exit and a new world of righteousness for man will come into existence. The hadith cited above about Jesus coming after the Prophet says that "THE HOUR WILL NOT BE ESTABLISHED..." Billions of people have died since the Prophet said that, so the Hour does not mean the time when each person dies.

The Shahadah in Islaam: is the declaration that Allaah the unseen, He is the Creator, The Sustainer, Mankind is accountable to Him Alone, and prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him).

Farrakhanism believes: that the Shahadah is a cover to deceive gullible Muslims, and that the prophet Mohammed was not a role model for our times , instead believe that Elijah Mohamed is the model and law giver for our times .

(note: whoever denies the Shadadah is a Disbeliever)

THIS IS JUST A LIE ABOUT THE NATION OF ISLAM; I DON'T KNOW FROM WHERE YOU GET THIS.

Islaam believes: in Praying five prayers a day which includes qiyam (standing), Rukoo' (bowing), Sajdah prostration), Jalsa (sitting on the floor, and recitations.

Farrakhanism:doesn't believe in praying five times a day , and when done it has no Rukoo' (bowing) and no Sajdah (prostration). Friday prayer is a major congressional prayer , not for salat (prayer) but to say Duaa' (to wish for something) and to listen to the minister.

note:whoever denies one of the 5 pillars of islam is a Kaffir(disbeliever)

That is a LIE to say that the Nation of Islam does not believe in praying five times of day. They believe in Jumu'ah & they allow people to pray as the Orthodox Muslims pray; the fact Mr. al Hanafi, is that the Qur'an says that Allah does not lay on any soul a duty except to the extent of it's ability (Surah 23:62.) For some American so-called Negroes IT IS TOO DIFFICULT TO PRAY AS ORTHODOX MUSLIMS PRAY.

Islaam believes: that Zakat is required on accumulated wealth after a possession for one year above certain limits given to the needy.

In Farrakhanism: it is a tax as a 'poor due' on income (who benefits?)

Islaam believes: that Muslims should fast in the month of Ramadan, ninth month of the Islaamic calendar.

However Farrakhanism believes: that fasting is only required during December and fasting in Ramadan is optional.

Islaam requires:Hajj once in a lifetime , providing if conditions of finances, health and safety of travel are met.

However in Farrakhanism: it is not a requirement.

These are just LIES. To the best of my knowledge the Nation of Islam has a Zakat system for their members. They fast during the month of Ramadhan and they believe in the Hajj.

In Islaam: the lawful and unlawful is determined by Allaah in the Qur'ân or by the prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him) recorded in sound authentic Ahaadeeth.

In Farrakhanism: the lawful and unlawful are determined by W. D Fard and Elijah Mohammed. The Qur'ân and the prophet in Farrakhanism have no relevance or authority with regards of lawful and unlawful.

This is just a LIE. In the Nation of Islam, the lawful & unlawful is based on the Qur'an.

An interesting piece of information we gathered from Ex-Nation believers is that Farrakhan went to Hajj recently not because he believed in Hajj , but to fool the Saudis to get financial help, ,so he was forced to say the Shahadah in Saudi Arabia, however since he did not believe in it , as soon as he ended his Hajj , he denounced his Shahadah.

This is just flat out lies, Sir.

 

[Yahyaa Waahid]

I believe that a hacker changed the following part of my above post; it should have read:

This doctrine that Allah does not dwell in man is FALSE, according to the Prophet's words. The Prophet said in hadith #25 of the Forty Hadith Qudsi:

Allah (mighty and sublime be He) said:

...My servant continues to draw near to Me with supererogatory works so that I shall love him. When I love him I am his hearing with which he hears, his seeing with which he sees, his hand with which he strikes and his foot with which he walks...

This tells us, like the Bible says, that Allah dwells in man.

 

[anabelizaire]

maybe instead of making assumption you should actually listen to Farrakhan speak and watch his weekly broadcast t" the time and what must be done" because a lot of people seem to have a negative view for Farrakhan ... maybe its because he's the truth because everyone runs away from the truth but in not here to criticize you im here to ask you to open you mind heart and ears to a Farrakhan because he taught m about love , equality, African American history and the All mighty God Allah ... so if you can listen to him speak and then write what you hear , see , and feel because Farrakhan , Elijah Muhammad, and Master Farad Muhammad is the truth.
:angel2: The honorable Elijah Muhammad teaches us to " think 5 times before we speak and we may be right " ... think about it. :angel2:

 

[Assad91]

Religious wise NOI isnot Islam at all.

Only good things about NOI is the work on the black community trying to bring self reliance and a better life.

As outsiders we can't force the black community to pick better vehicles. Instead maybe we should respect as much as possible the vehicles they do use.

Really the most worrying things is the views that whites are devils and evil.