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The News Media has provided a disservice when it comes to the Build Back Better bill

F1fan

Veteran Member
Only as seriously for repaying their union friends who helped fund their elections, lucrative bids, leaving us, the public, with miles and miles of cones and barriers with nobody on them half the time and of course , the proverbial five men supervising one guy with a shovel digging a ditch. Year after year after year.
My, how incoherent. Do you applaud when a bridge collapses?
 

Truthseeker

Non-debating member when I can help myself
Experience shows that spending always exceeds
taxation. Without doing any calculations, I'll wager
the effect will continue.
But there's another factor...higher taxes on suppliers
of goods & services will mean higher prices. Again,
I'm not saying it isn't worth doing....but both sides of
the debate should consider both positives & negatives.
Okay, we should look at both sides. However, that's not the point of my thread. I regret being part of this diversion.
 

Truthseeker

Non-debating member when I can help myself
Ignorance is my problem, eh.
Such unwarranted confidence hath ye.

Your argument has so far hinged entirely upon
your claim that I'm duped by the media. Yet
you've provided naught but propaganda from
your favored media.
None of that debunks my preference for looking
at all consequences, both good & bad.
Okay, already. Sorry about the ignorance thing. I assumed too much. This diversion has gone too far, and unfortunately I was part of it.
 

Truthseeker

Non-debating member when I can help myself
How about talking about how the Media makes money concentrating on politics rather than what the policies may or may not do for people? Does anyone here care about that? Unfortunately, the article itself talked about the benefits of Build Back Better, but to me that's not the point.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Okay, already. Sorry about the ignorance thing. I assumed too much. This diversion has gone too far, and unfortunately I was part of it.
Okay, we should look at both sides. However, that's not the point of my thread. I regret being part of this diversion.
Is it a diversion to consider that the link
fails to present all the costs of the program?
Seems appropriate in a forum that is
specifically labeled as for "debate".

Take solace though...I had & have
nothing to add to that point.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Exactly. The Republican party never had an incentive to support infrastructure investments to begin with.
Probably because the unions like their lucrative tax and spend contracts from their bought and paid for Democrats.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Maybe I misunderstood? I was thinking it was support of using unions as political tools in regards to infrastructure contracts in exchange for votes. Took snarky on the comment itself I posted.

I dunno...im lost.

I commented on not responding to a snarky post.
I dont think ive any issue with you.

I hope i dont sympathize with any " cancer"
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
Exactly. The Republican party never had an incentive to support infrastructure investments to begin with.

Trump pushed for infrastructure spending. However, he was not given access to the needed funds because of the Republican loss during the midterms. The main reason he was blocked, was infrastructure was in Trump's wheelhouse as a former big city developer. Back then infrastructure was defined as being connected to physical things such as roads, bridges, water lines, sewer line, ports, internet and cell phone logistics, etc, which all needed updates. Trump would have done a good job cheaper than normal for government. With the election coming up in 2016, Trump was not allowed to gain any credit from his strengths.

Being a developer from NYC, Trump knew all the big construction players and the political gaming for donations. He would have used this network of experts as a way created a lot of new good paying jobs; local workers where the work was being done. He would have not allowed the unions to dominate, keeping jobs in the unions; slowing progress, to boost union pensions. Trump would have also overhauled all the construction based regulatory nonsense that makes everything more expensive, so American can get more for their dollar.

The problem with BBB, was the Left used the term infrastructure spending to describe a Liberal entitlement wish list, that had little to do with updating physical infrastructure. It came out of the blocks as an over priced Leftist con job and was never going to go anywhere.

If I recall, BBB was initially provided fluff pieces by the left wing media, who would sing the praise, even when the cost was up to $5T. They even helped the Left push the nonsense of human infrastructure. As it became clear it was a waste of tax payer money and inflationary, the left wing media could no longer lie as easily and their propaganda support got less and less.

Trump may revisit this in 2024. My advice is young people need to learn a trade so they can get the good paying job that are coming to a town near you.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I dunno...im lost.

I commented on not responding to a snarky post.
I dont think ive any issue with you.

I hope i dont sympathize with any " cancer"
Oh. Sorry for that. Gotta check my friendly fire. Sometimes I go too fast and don't hit the brakes while in debate mode and hit my head. *grin*


 

Kooky

Freedom from Sanity
Probably because the unions like their lucrative tax and spend contracts from their bought and paid for Democrats.
Ask yourself: Why would a Republican Senator support a Democratic infrastructure bill of any form?
What would be in it for them or their party?
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Ask yourself: Why would a Republican Senator support a Democratic infrastructure bill of any form?
What would be in it for them or their party?
When spending plans that do pass that help states fund infrastructure or other programs the republicans will take credit even though they voted against it.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Ask yourself: Why would a Republican Senator support a Democratic infrastructure bill of any form?
What would be in it for them or their party?
You know the answer to that one. It's to whomever that can garner the most votes and keep them in power and riches respectively.

Corporations for Republicans

Unions , particularly municipal, for Democrats
 
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