Were the nicene council anti-gnostic? even turning their backs on origen?
Fool ALL in all Premium Member Nov 14, 2019 #1 Were the nicene council anti-gnostic? even turning their backs on origen?
leov Well-Known Member Nov 14, 2019 #2 Fool said: Were the nicene council anti-gnostic? even turning their backs on origen? Click to expand... Constantine wanted to create unified religion for his Empire, so, potentially, it was anti -everything.
Fool said: Were the nicene council anti-gnostic? even turning their backs on origen? Click to expand... Constantine wanted to create unified religion for his Empire, so, potentially, it was anti -everything.
shmogie Well-Known Member Nov 14, 2019 #3 Fool said: Were the nicene council anti-gnostic? even turning their backs on origen? Click to expand... Yes, they knew that gnosticism was heresy, and that Origen was wonky.
Fool said: Were the nicene council anti-gnostic? even turning their backs on origen? Click to expand... Yes, they knew that gnosticism was heresy, and that Origen was wonky.
Fool ALL in all Premium Member Nov 14, 2019 #4 shmogie said: Yes, they knew that gnosticism was heresy, and that Origen was wonky. Click to expand... interesting that someone who lived long before the nicene council and had access to one of the world's greatest libraries should be found heretical. but you can't profit from what you can't control can you? one group trying to create all as equal and another trying to create hierarchies. hierarchies, like pyramid schemes, seem dubious to me.
shmogie said: Yes, they knew that gnosticism was heresy, and that Origen was wonky. Click to expand... interesting that someone who lived long before the nicene council and had access to one of the world's greatest libraries should be found heretical. but you can't profit from what you can't control can you? one group trying to create all as equal and another trying to create hierarchies. hierarchies, like pyramid schemes, seem dubious to me.
Kelly of the Phoenix Well-Known Member Nov 15, 2019 #5 shmogie said: Yes, they knew that gnosticism was heresy, and that Origen was wonky. Click to expand... Heresy is what the people in power call it, even if it can be more accurate to reality than what is "orthodox".
shmogie said: Yes, they knew that gnosticism was heresy, and that Origen was wonky. Click to expand... Heresy is what the people in power call it, even if it can be more accurate to reality than what is "orthodox".
Politesse Amor Vincit Omnia Nov 15, 2019 #6 Many of his teaching were declaimed at a later council, about 75 years after Nicaea. Origen himself as a person never was and still has not been, at least not by the wider church community. Anti-Gnostic they certainly were.
Many of his teaching were declaimed at a later council, about 75 years after Nicaea. Origen himself as a person never was and still has not been, at least not by the wider church community. Anti-Gnostic they certainly were.