The Noble Quran Was Not Written By Satan.

[gnostic]

Response: There's the statement. Where's the proof?

You're the one who believe in the existence of satan, not me. And if you believe in such existence, then where is your proof or evidence.

Since there are no physical evidences, there's proof of Satan's existence. The same goes with the existence of god. I have seen no evidences whatsoever that could prove that god exist. But since you're the believer, then you are the one who supposed to provide the evidences.

The lack of evidences of their existences only prove they don't exist.

So you made a lot of statements in this thread alone, where are your evidences or proof?

Show me where Satan (or god, for that matter) exist in this real world. Once you have provide the evidences that we can verify, and only then I would believe that they exist...and not before then.

 

[Zhakir]

You're the one who believe in the existence of satan, not me. And if you believe in such existence, then where is your proof or evidence.

Since there are no physical evidences, there's proof of Satan's existence. The same goes with the existence of god. I have seen no evidences whatsoever that could prove that god exist. But since you're the believer, then you are the one who supposed to provide the evidences.

The lack of evidences of their existences only prove they don't exist.

So you made a lot of statements in this thread alone, where are your evidences or proof?

Show me where Satan (or god, for that matter) exist in this real world. Once you have provide the evidences that we can verify, and only then I would believe that they exist...and not before then.

If you wish,we wouldn't discuss the topic "the evidences of the existences of god" here on this thread.This Thread is basicly appointed to the christinans,jews and theists who claim that the noble Quran was written by satan,and they believe in satan,in other words the unbeliever's participations in such threads don't count.

 

[MoonShadow1]

Response: :clapWe also read in the bible, 1John4:1,2:

"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God."

From the verses of the bible above, we see that the spirit that confesses that Jesus is the christ is of God. The word "spirit" is used synonymously with "prophet", as shown in the first verse. So a false spirit is a false prophet, and a true spirit is a true prophet. So the next verse says that the spirit that confesses that Jesus is the christ is of God, therefore being a true prophet. A true prophet is the one who speaks of Jesus as the christ.

Now, the holy qur'an:

"When the angels said, 'O Mary, Allah gives thee glad tidings of a son through a Word from Him; his name shall be the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, honoured in this world and in the next, and of those who are granted nearest to God." (Ch. 3:45)

From the verses of the qur'an, we read that Muhammad(pbuh) confesses that Jesus is the messiah, christ. Therefore, from the bible itself, Muhammad(pbuh) is confirmed to be a true prophet.

Greeting's Fatihah,

:yes: Your most logical and well thought out Post on such a dynamic subject is a most welcome relief !

It is extremely pleasant for me, as a new member of this outstanding Forum Site to read such an excellent Post in response to the seemilngly endless misconceptions regarding the qur'an and it's teachings.

:clapThe statement you made regarding : "We also read in the Bible 1 John 4:1,2"...
immediately suggests a sincere willingness on your part to engage those of us whom reply to your meaningful Post's in an extremely fair and intellectually balanced manner.

I know not whether you are a teacher or other learned expert on this most
profound subject. I do acknowledge that you Post contains the essential elements
for mutally beneficial group discussion...... At this point in time we could all use much, much more of this type of positive topic exchange.....

Thank's to all who have welcomed me to this sensational Forum.....
MoonShadow1

 

[Just_me_Mike]

:clapThe statement you made regarding : "We also read in the Bible 1 John 4:1,2"...
immediately suggests a sincere willingness on your part to engage those of us whom reply to your meaningful Post's in an extremely fair and intellectually balanced manner.

You realize that David Carresh (spell check), Charles Manson, Adolf Hitler, were all very well versed in the bible. Would you say also they were willing to have an open conversation about the subject?

Just something to think about. By no means comparing Fatihah with any of these people, but pointing out your comment suggest a bit of gullability.

Fatihah has shown very little tolerance for anything outside of the Quran, and in fact will speak very frankly when the bible contradicts the Quran. He is not concerned with finding greater truth in the bible, but only finding what supports his views of Islam.

No disrespect intended Fatihah, but I felt the need to clarify a bit. :yes:

 

[Fatihah]

Greeting's Fatihah,

:yes: Your most logical and well thought out Post on such a dynamic subject is a most welcome relief !

It is extremely pleasant for me, as a new member of this outstanding Forum Site to read such an excellent Post in response to the seemilngly endless misconceptions regarding the qur'an and it's teachings.

:clapThe statement you made regarding : "We also read in the Bible 1 John 4:1,2"...
immediately suggests a sincere willingness on your part to engage those of us whom reply to your meaningful Post's in an extremely fair and intellectually balanced manner.

I know not whether you are a teacher or other learned expert on this most
profound subject. I do acknowledge that you Post contains the essential elements
for mutally beneficial group discussion...... At this point in time we could all use much, much more of this type of positive topic exchange.....

Thank's to all who have welcomed me to this sensational Forum.....
MoonShadow1

Response: Thank you very much for your kind words.

 

[Fatihah]

You realize that David Carresh (spell check), Charles Manson, Adolf Hitler, were all very well versed in the bible. Would you say also they were willing to have an open conversation about the subject?

Just something to think about. By no means comparing Fatihah with any of these people, but pointing out your comment suggest a bit of gullability.

Fatihah has shown very little tolerance for anything outside of the Quran, and in fact will speak very frankly when the bible contradicts the Quran. He is not concerned with finding greater truth in the bible, but only finding what supports his views of Islam.

No disrespect intended Fatihah, but I felt the need to clarify a bit. :yes:

Response: To the contrary, since you have no proof of such a claim, we come to learn that in all actuality, it is you yourself who fit the description of your own words. Except in your case, it's finding little tolerance for anything outside the bible and not concerned with the truth at all.

No disrespect intended, but I felt the need to clarify a bit.

 

[Just_me_Mike]

Response: To the contrary, since you have no proof of such a claim, we come to learn that in all actuality, it is you yourself who fit the description of your own words. Except in your case, it's finding little tolerance for anything outside the bible and not concerned with the truth at all.

No disrespect intended, but I felt the need to clarify a bit.

That mirror of a response was clever.
I like how you slipped in your famous phrase also! It just sneaks in there all the time

 

[Danarch]

...and not concerned with the truth at all.

What is the truth?

 

[averageJOE]

If you wish,we wouldn't discuss the topic "the evidences of the existences of god" here on this thread.This Thread is basicly appointed to the christinans,jews and theists who claim that the noble Quran was written by satan,and they believe in satan,in other words the unbeliever's participations in such threads don't count.

Why not? Are the questions we ask too hard to answer?

 

[YmirGF]

What is the truth?

What Fatihah finds inconvenient is that so-called "truth" is relative.

 

[Kurt31416]

As the Samaritans have been saying for 3400 years,

"There is no God but God".

Satan-gods, son-gods, angel-gods, demon-gods, jinn-gods are all pagan polytheistic superstition. All those old pagan religions had a creator head-god too.

 

[ThereIsNoSpoon]

Now You are accusing me of doingt things WITHOUT proof?
Please DO quote my post where i have said that i was going to present proof.

If not we can simply conclude that you are not only wrong, not only stubborn, not only inconsistent but also a liar.

I am waiting.

Just reposting it once so that it doesnt get "forgotten"