The Onion buys Infowars.

[Twilight Hue]

That department is slated to get the ax.

Not that it is actually worth anything today anyways. It's outlived it's usefulness considering the pitiful level of education our students get from incredibly overpaid teachers and administrators enjoying Cadillac level perks and retirement packages while screwing the students two way to Sunday.

 

[Wirey]

Not that it is actually worth anything today anyways. It's outlived it's usefulness considering the pitiful level of education our students get from incredibly overpaid teachers and administrators enjoying Cadillac level perks and retirement packages while screwing the students two way to Sunday.

Is this satire? Overpaid teachers? Bwah?

 

[Twilight Hue]

Is this satire? Overpaid teachers? Bwah?

With underperforming students you tell me.

It's always the never-ending black hole of funding that the educational system can never have enough of year after year decade after decade, it's always the same thing the educational system needs more money it can never be satiated.

Meanwhile student education gets ever worse and worse. What a colossal massive waste of taxpayers money with nothing at all to justify any additional infusion. One gets paid for results, not failures.

 

[Revoltingest]

Not that it is actually worth anything today anyways. It's outlived it's usefulness considering the pitiful level of education our students get from incredibly overpaid teachers and administrators enjoying Cadillac level perks and retirement packages while screwing the students two way to Sunday.

I like all the analysis & evidence you provided.

 

[Revoltingest]

Is this satire? Overpaid teachers? Bwah?

In my town, teacher pay doesn't seem high at all.

Teaching in Ann Arbor Public Schools | Salary | Jobs | Employment (Michigan) | Teacher.org

www.teacher.org

But they do have spectacular benefits.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I like all the analysis & evidence you provided.

Aside from your sarcastic demeanor here , like I had said many times already, that I'm a bottom line person.

If what we actually see today is somehow the steller picture of academic success right now after all the years if not decades of throwing money at an endless black hole that we presently call the educational system, I would dearly love to see your answer as to why we should throw yet even more endless piles of taxpayers money at the educational black hole. ️

I will leave it to you then for your obvious expert analysis and evidences to state otherwise.



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[Revoltingest]

Aside from your sarcastic demeanor.....

Me?
Sarcastic?
Piffle!

 

[Wirey]

Aside from your sarcastic demeanor here , like I had said many times already, that I'm a bottom line person.

If what we actually see today is somehow the steller picture of academic success right now after all the years if not decades of throwing money at an endless black hole that we presently call the educational system, I would dearly love to see your answer as to why we should throw yet even more endless piles of taxpayers money at the educational black hole. ️

I will leave it to you then for your obvious expert analysis and evidences to state otherwise.



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As a bottom line person myself, let me explain what I see.

I work in oil and gas. We have very strict requirements for construction standards. Accordingly, every company that work for us is required to have a quality department. You can almost instantly judge how well a contractor will perform based solely on what they pay their quality people. If they pay well, they attract good, experienced talented people who have other options but choose the quality role (a thankless job for the most part). These companies do good work that is acceptable to the client. If they pay poorly, they get some schleb (what would the proper spelling of schleb be?) who has no option but to take the demanding task at a reduced rate of pay. They constantly make mistakes and cause massive headaches for the scheduling people through needless rework. They almost universally fail.

If you're underpaying teachers (it's a thing, Google it), you're going to get the dregs of the academic world while intelligent, talented people say "Screw this, I'm going to go work in oil and gas, or become a YouTube influencer" or whatever it takes to be able to afford a car made in this century. If you think the education system is failing, maybe staff it with actual educators.

And before anyone lights off with "I'm a great teacher and I'm intelligent blah blah blah", I don't care. If you're so great, go get a real job. Teachers don't make squat.

 

[Revoltingest]

As a bottom line person myself, let me explain what I see.

I work in oil and gas. We have very strict requirements for construction standards. Accordingly, every company that work for us is required to have a quality department. You can almost instantly judge how well a contractor will perform based solely on what they pay their quality people. If they pay well, they attract good, experienced talented people who have other options but choose the quality role (a thankless job for the most part). These companies do good work that is acceptable to the client. If they pay poorly, they get some schleb (what would the proper spelling of schleb be?) who has no option but to take the demanding task at a reduced rate of pay. They constantly make mistakes and cause massive headaches for the scheduling people through needless rework. They almost universally fail.

If you're underpaying teachers (it's a thing, Google it), you're going to get the dregs of the academic world while intelligent, talented people say "Screw this, I'm going to go work in oil and gas, or become a YouTube influencer" or whatever it takes to be able to afford a car made in this century. If you think the education system is failing, maybe staff it with actual educators.

And before anyone lights off with "I'm a great teacher and I'm intelligent blah blah blah", I don't care. If you're so great, go get a real job. Teachers don't make squat.

I suspect a correlation between posters who dis paying
teachers well, & having never valued their own education
all that much. Just a suspicion.

I think back to when Honest Abe & I were in that 1 room
school house. I have vivid memories of certain teachers
excelling by making even me interested & scholarly (to
the extent I was able). Some people never experienced that.

 

[Twilight Hue]

As a bottom line person myself, let me explain what I see.

I work in oil and gas. We have very strict requirements for construction standards. Accordingly, every company that work for us is required to have a quality department. You can almost instantly judge how well a contractor will perform based solely on what they pay their quality people. If they pay well, they attract good, experienced talented people who have other options but choose the quality role (a thankless job for the most part). These companies do good work that is acceptable to the client. If they pay poorly, they get some schleb (what would the proper spelling of schleb be?) who has no option but to take the demanding task at a reduced rate of pay. They constantly make mistakes and cause massive headaches for the scheduling people through needless rework. They almost universally fail.

If you're underpaying teachers (it's a thing, Google it), you're going to get the dregs of the academic world while intelligent, talented people say "Screw this, I'm going to go work in oil and gas, or become a YouTube influencer" or whatever it takes to be able to afford a car made in this century. If you think the education system is failing, maybe staff it with actual educators.

And before anyone lights off with "I'm a great teacher and I'm intelligent blah blah blah", I don't care. If you're so great, go get a real job. Teachers don't make squat.

Then the standard should be set with the state with the top results. Massachusetts as of now is said to be the most highly educated producing the best scores.

Most Educated States 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

Teachers should be capped no more than this amount based on our best educational state which is Massachusetts. ...

$87,438 per year. That's a whopping $1,681 per week for an average teacher!

https://govsalaries.com/salaries/teacher-salary/massachusetts

 

[Wirey]

Then the standard should be set with the state with the top results. Massachusetts as of now is said to be the most highly educated producing the best scores.

Most Educated States 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

Teachers should be capped no more than this amount based on our best educational state which is Massachusetts. ...

$87,438 per year. That's a whopping $1,681 per week for an average teacher!

https://govsalaries.com/salaries/teacher-salary/massachusetts

If you think $1,681 to educate children is "whopping", You and I have very different ideas about money. It takes an average of about $100k in income to afford a basic mortgage. By this definition, you're saying "Hey, teachers! Give away any hope of the American Dream while you make sure other people's children get started on theirs."

 

[Twilight Hue]

If you think $1,681 to educate children is "whopping", You and I have very different ideas about money. It takes an average of about $100k in income to afford a basic mortgage. By this definition, you're saying "Hey, teachers! Give away any hope of the American Dream while you make sure other people's children get started on theirs."

Nope. Massachusetts sets the standard. They have the best school system and high quality students. If they can do it on that standard, so can the rest of the country.


A large portion of working middle class are lucky that they can even barely pull in $300 a week and they have to work year around not the part-time seasonal jobs that teachers enjoy.

 

[Viker]

I expect more accurate truthful news from The Onion than any of the garbage that ever came from Infowars.

Finally! Some reliable news!

 

[Revoltingest]

Then the standard should be set with the state with the top results. Massachusetts as of now is said to be the most highly educated producing the best scores.

Most Educated States 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

Teachers should be capped no more than this amount based on our best educational state which is Massachusetts. ...

$87,438 per year. That's a whopping $1,681 per week for an average teacher!

And that is with summers off work.
However, your idea of capping is a left wing
solution, ie, having government impose ill
considered strict regulations. Let each
jurisdiction decide what it needs.

 

[Twilight Hue]

And that is with summers off work.
However, your idea of capping is a left wing
solution, ie, having government impose ill
considered strict regulations. Let each
jurisdiction decide what it needs.

Well then consider that stretching my hands across the table and shaking on a left wing solution.

I feel the best state that we have for education should also set the standard including wages and compensation. If they can do it successfully with what they have, so can everybody else.

 

[Viker]

A large portion of working middle class are lucky that they can even barely pull in $300 a week and they have to work year around not the part-time seasonal jobs that teachers enjoy.

In the United States, the average weekly pay for the working class is $1,522, which is based on an annual salary of $79,176. Here are some other weekly pay ranges for different groups:
Top earners: $1,913 per week, based on an annual salary of $99,500
75th percentile: $1,692 per week, based on an annual salary of $88,000
25th percentile: $1,269 per week, based on an annual salary of $66,000

https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/Working-Class-Salary

 

[Revoltingest]

Well then consider that stretching my hands across the table and shaking on a left wing solution.

I've noticed that Magas aren't the same as conservatives.
They favor theocracy & authoritarianism, which gives
them much common ground with the far left.

 

[Twilight Hue]

In the United States, the average weekly pay for the working class is $1,522, which is based on an annual salary of $79,176. Here are some other weekly pay ranges for different groups:
Top earners: $1,913 per week, based on an annual salary of $99,500
75th percentile: $1,692 per week, based on an annual salary of $88,000
25th percentile: $1,269 per week, based on an annual salary of $66,000

https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/Working-Class-Salary

Looks at my check. (Nope, it's definitely not $1,269 per week)

Hey @Saint Frankenstein! You are a fellow working blue collar stiff like me.

Do you pull in $1, 269 smakers a week?

Just want to make sure it isn't just me who isn't making $1,269 smakers a week.

 

[Revoltingest]

Looks at my check. (Nope, it's definitely not $1,269 per week)

Hey @Saint Frankenstein! You are a fellow working blue collar stiff like me.

Do you pull in $1, 269 smakers a week?

Just want to make sure it isn't just me who isn't making $1,269 smakers a week.

If you want to earn more money, it pays to
improve oneself (education), work harder
&/or smarter, & be dedicated to benefitting
those who employ you.

 

[Viker]

Looks at my check. (Nope, it's definitely not $1,269 per week)

Hey @Saint Frankenstein! You are a fellow working blue collar stiff like me.

Do you pull in $1, 269 smakers a week?

Just want to make sure it isn't just me who isn't making $1,269 smakers a week.

Those are not only averages but common earnings. Meaning most of the working middle class.

You said MOST of the working class is barely pulling in 300 per week.