The OT = UGH

[Pegg]

I'm saying that those laws only call Jews to love other Jews. They don't seem to have a universal application.

exactly right

Jews only had to apply them to their own brothers and proselytes. They were not permitted to have any association with the outside nations.

But the new covenant was for all mankind to participate through Christ.

 

[CMike]

exactly right

Jews only had to apply them to their own brothers and proselytes. They were not permitted to have any association with the outside nations.

But the new covenant was for all mankind to participate through Christ.

Good grief

More non Jews who are experts on Jews.

 

[CMike]

I dont think so. My sons name is Caleb which means 'dog' in hebrew. Caleb was a hebrew who was a faithful man under Joshua. His name may mean 'dog' but surely doent mean he was not a real person?

If the story of Caleb was real, why give him such a name when his example is one of faith, loyalty and courage? Why not give him Is it not love for God?

Caleb means faithful.

Kelev means dog.

 

[CMike]

But those laws only pertain to how you treat other Jews?!

Does it say that?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I dont think so. My sons name is Caleb which means 'dog' in hebrew. Caleb was a hebrew who was a faithful man under Joshua.

You really should stop embarrassing yourself. 'Caleb' = "kol lev" …

 

[roger1440]

I'm saying that those laws only call Jews to love other Jews. They don't seem to have a universal application.

I searched the great and powerful Google for “jewish hospitality laws” and come up with this:

“…The Bible is replete with examples of pious hospitality. As soon as Abraham saw the three men of Mamre "from afar," he hurried to invite them into his house, ministered to their physical comfort, and served them lavishly (Gen. 18). Similarly, Laban was eager to welcome Abraham's servant (Gen. 24:28–32) while Rebekah attended to the comfort of his camels….”
Hospitality

 

[dantech]

You really should stop embarrassing yourself. 'Caleb' = "kol lev" …

It's obviously not going to happen

 

[CMike]

You really should stop embarrassing yourself. 'Caleb' = "kol lev" …

Kol means all of

Lev is heart

 

[CMike]

I searched the great and powerful Google for “jewish hospitality laws” and come up with this:

“…The Bible is replete with examples of pious hospitality. As soon as Abraham saw the three men of Mamre "from afar," he hurried to invite them into his house, ministered to their physical comfort, and served them lavishly (Gen. 18). Similarly, Laban was eager to welcome Abraham's servant (Gen. 24:28–32) while Rebekah attended to the comfort of his camels….”
Hospitality

That's very true. Abraham was wealthy with a house full of servants.

However, when he saw strangers he ran to them, washed their feet, and served them personally.

That's how important hospitality is to jews for everyone.

 

[CMike]

The "New Covenant" only applies to "Israel and Judah", and Christians believe that they are now "Grafts" to the tree, so that means they must be included to "Israel and Judah" and obey what Israel and Judah must obey if they want to be consistent. Otherwise, they aren't part of Israel and Judah, and thus aren't part of the New Covenant.

There is no "new convenant" in judaism, that's christianity.

 

[Avi1001]

exactly right

Jews only had to apply them to their own brothers and proselytes. They were not permitted to have any association with the outside nations.

But the new covenant was for all mankind to participate through Christ.

Your comments are very appropriate.

On the other hand, there has been a great deal of interpretation and re-interpretation of Judaism since the time of Christ. I am a reform Jew and reject much of the dogma of traditional Judaism.

 

[roger1440]

That's very true. Abraham was wealthy with a house full of servants.

However, when he saw strangers he ran to them, washed their feet, and served them personally.

That's how important hospitality is to jews for everyone.

“Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it.” (Hebrews 13:2)


That verse is in reference to Abraham, Lot and probably others. The point is Christian hospitality has it’s roots in Jewish hospitality.

 

[nazz]

“Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it.”(Hebrews 13:2)


That verse is in reference to Abraham, Lot and probably others. The point is Christian hospitality has it’s roots in Jewish hospitality.

Which has its roots in Semitic hospitality in general. Part of what the Arabs call adab.

 

[RabbiO]

You really should stop embarrassing yourself. 'Caleb' = "kol lev" …

I would be a mite more charitable, considering that Caleb is כלב, and dog is כלב, and it all depends on how it is vowelized (for want of a better term off the top of my head).

Peter

 

[Avi1001]

I would be a mite more charitable, considering that Caleb is כלב, and dog is כלב, and it all depends on how it is vowelized (for want of a better term off the top of my head).

Peter

Rabbio, nice to see around these parts. You are right about charity.

 

[roger1440]

Which has its roots in Semitic hospitality in general. Part of what the Arabs call adab.

Hospitality falls under God’s very first commandment, “Be fruitful and multiply”. If we fail to help those of our own species we would cease to exist. We are more inclined to help someone hit by a car then an animal.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Does it say that?

That's what it appears to say. If I'm mistaken, sorry.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

That's what it appears to say. If I'm mistaken, sorry.

Appears where?

 

[Shermana]

That's what it appears to say. If I'm mistaken, sorry.

Did you overlook Leviticus 19:34?

 

[CMike]

Hospitality falls under God’s very first commandment, “Be fruitful and multiply”. If we fail to help those of our own species we would cease to exist. We are more inclined to help someone hit by a car then an animal.

No really. "Be fruitful and multiply", means have children.