The other person

[Robert.Evans]

We each have a small part of just one reality.

Yes! that is what I am saying!

No! I can see forever. I do not want to believe I am someone else also somewhere else. I do not know who you are. I am nobody. You call me sister. I am your sister and so you are my brother.

You are the only One I call Sister. Who are you?
Are you me? Do you know what I know? Do you see what I see?

Perhaps you do. Perhaps you are me, and I don't exist. You make me think, though I want you to. All things are one. Many thoughts in one mind. That is the first line above....do you see it?

 

[Robert.Evans]

I think, even according to scripture, that pantheism is what Jesus was going for acknowledging we are all sons of the most high, that "ye are gods". He explained this further in his prayers as oneness.

"Split wood, I am there. Lift up a rock, you will find me there."

Lost gospel of Thomas I think. Tried to frubalbubal you, no dice!

 

[Nakosis]

I have seen in people that to believe anything it must first be believed by at least two other people. Whenever I have posted a new idea the response I get usually is "no one else believes it so it can't be true".

I will show you in scripture who else believes the truth.

You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that--and shudder. James 2:19

There is one God. How many messages does The One God deliver? One. The demons know it. Anything real is known by at least one more. Me and them make two. Isn't it?

So now please consider what I am saying.

Actually your message from God was delivered by other men. And, I'm not referring to Jesus. That would be the unknown or assumed writers of the NT. Exception with Paul. However I've no reason to think that Paul had any authority.

Of course it is up to you to place your faith in these other men. I see no good reason to but you certainly have the right to put your faith in men you've never met.

Me, I'd rather put my trust in God. If God needs me to know something I'd expect God is capable of contacting me directly to make God's will known.

It's not that I'm particularly down on these folks who wrote the Bible, but they were human like you and me so certainly capable of error.

 

[savagewind]

Yes! that is what I am saying!

All the many views in all the time since creation are many and each gets smaller and smaller in relation to the whole thing. You call all the views different realities. I call them the same. We are all under Just One God.

You are the only One I call Sister.

You are by far the nicest person I have met on the internet.

Who are you?

American, middle aged, wife, mother, retired, happy, content, reasonably fit, a rebel, a student of Yeshua (Yehoshua), nonpolitical, a high school graduate, a blogger, a friend, and more.

Are you me?

No. Giggle.

Do you know what I know?

I don't think so.

Do you see what I see?

I do not.

Perhaps you do. Perhaps you are me, and I don't exist.

We are not the same but we both exist because we are having a conversation.

You make me think, though I want you to.

I like to think. I dream. When I wake up I know something new, but not every day.

All things are one.

This is putting it simply but yes, all is one.

 

[Robert.Evans]

All the many views in all the time since creation are many and each gets smaller and smaller in relation to the whole thing. You call all the views different realities. I call them the same. We are all under Just One God. You are by far the nicest person I have met on the internet.American, middle aged, wife, mother, retired, happy, content, reasonably fit, a rebel, a student of Yeshua (Yehoshua), nonpolitical, a high school graduate, a blogger, a friend, and more.No. Giggle. I don't think so.I do not. We are not the same but we both exist because we are having a conversation. I like to think. I dream. When I wake up I know something new, but not every day. This is putting it simply but yes, all is one.

I like "giggle".

You are nice.

I never would have thought you a rebel (joking)

I am glad you are a mother.

I am glad you are happy.

I am glad you are a student of Yahshuah

I am glad you are a friend

Think of this: if there is One Consciousness, so there is One God. Yet you are there and I am here. What does this mean. We have a different conscious. We have a different mind. Yet you exist, and so do I. Why think that God cannot make another world, another universe with more life. He makes me, he makes you. You think he cannot do more because he only tells YOU what YOU need to know in YOUR realm, sister.

We both exist as we have a conversation you said. Do you think that Yahshuah was God on earth? I don't know. If so, did he have a conversation? Yes. What is to stop more conversations. Is it because we can't see them?

 

[savagewind]

Why think that God cannot make another world, another universe with more life. He makes me, he makes you.

It is possible God has more worlds. Yes. The Bible holds clues that God will make another place for God's children.

Think of this: if there is One Consciousness, so there is One God. Yet you are there and I am here. What does this mean. We have a different conscious. We have a different mind. Yet you exist, and so do I.

My goal is to be welcome into God's consciousness. Of course not everyone is. I cannot choose between two or more consciousnesses of God. Just ONE. No choice except yes or no. It can't be yes and no. It can't be yes now but no later. But it can be no now but yes later because God by Yeshua is just and good.

You think he cannot do more because he only tells YOU what YOU need to know in YOUR realm, sister.

Yes. I am not ambitious relative to the son of God. I am not much ambitious about anything. I would though love to be on the Daily Show with Jon Stewart just to prove the lady wrong* because I am the worst brat.

*someone on forum is so sure I will never be invited on but hey! it is I who have discovered the Bible is wrong. :flirt:

 

[Robert.Evans]

It is possible God has more worlds. Yes. The Bible holds clues that God will make another place for God's children. My goal is to be welcome into God's consciousness. Of course not everyone is. I cannot choose between two or more consciousnesses of God. Just ONE. No choice except yes or no. It can't be yes and no. It can't be yes now but no later. But it can be no now but yes later because God by Yeshua is just and good. Yes. I am not ambitious relative to the son of God. I am not much ambitious about anything. I would though love to be on the Daily Show with Jon Stewart just to prove the lady wrong* because I am the worst brat.

*someone on forum is so sure I will never be invited on but hey! it is I who have discovered the Bible is wrong. :flirt:

I am not arguing with you that there is ONE Consciousness. What I am saying is how does that one Consciousness work. Are we part of God? If so, then how do you have a consciousness which is not my consciousness? How are they separate. If they are the same, as some theoretical physicists think, and me, then there is no problem.......yet still you are there and and I am here. So how does it work with God??? If he is One, why can he still not work the same. Thus it might look and be explained as being many consciousnesses but really there is only ONE.

 

[outhouse]

So now please consider what I am saying.

Why?

Who do you think you are???



You have no real training or education on the subject, you have a skewed overall view of Christianity, and show bias when playing with history.

You believe that there is one God. Good!

There are many god concepts.

The Abrahamic god consist of many god concepts all rolled into one.


El
Yahweh
Jesus
ghost


I just think you don't know about how these concepts evolved over thousands of years.

 

[Robert.Evans]

Why?

Who do you think you are???

She is One who knows the One that this subject is about. That is why you (who does not) should listen.

You have no real training or education on the subject,

A comment you throw out many times. How do you know? If she belongs to Him, she has more training than you will ever have.

you have a skewed overall view of Christianity, and show bias when playing with history.

She has 'skewed' nothing. You do not see it through spiritual eyes.

I just think you don't know about how these concepts evolved over thousands of years.

I think she does. You have no knowledge on this subject. That is obvious when you argue with someone who knows the One.

 

[outhouse]

You do not see it through spiritual eyes.



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You mean we should use imagination and the supernatural, instead of known history?

You have no knowledge on this subject.

Your welcome to any opinion. It does not make you correct.

I think she does

Exactly! you "think" and nothing more.



Not a word in your rambling reply refuted a word I stated.

 

[savagewind]

Why?

Who do you think you are???



You have no real training or education on the subject, you have a skewed overall view of Christianity, and show bias when playing with history.




There are many god concepts.

The Abrahamic god consist of many god concepts all rolled into one.


El
Yahweh
Jesus
ghost


I just think you don't know about how these concepts evolved over thousands of years.

LOL I love you! What would forum be without the resident historian? Oh! Who do I think I am? I think nobody. But I am lovable just like you!

 

[savagewind]

She is One who knows the One that this subject is about. That is why you (who does not) should listen.

A comment you throw out many times. How do you know? If she belongs to Him, she has more training than you will ever have.

She has 'skewed' nothing. You do not see it through spiritual eyes.

I think she does. You have no knowledge on this subject. That is obvious when you argue with someone who knows the One.

That sure looks like a gallant young man on a white steed to me! Thank you sir Evans!

Wouldn't it be funny if Jesus was posting too? "I just couldn't resist" says he. Haha

 

[Robert.Evans]

You mean we should use imagination and the supernatural, instead of known history?






Your welcome to any opinion. It does not make you correct.




Exactly! you "think" and nothing more.



Not a word in your rambling reply refuted a word I stated.

You stated nothing.