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The Paedophile Hunter

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Yeah I have been a teen in my school uniform and have been approached by older men, and I have been a teen online and have been asked if I was molested by a male family member by an older guy was getting off to me being 14 years of age! But nice one exposing yourself.

Wah wah, so have I. I had weird old black guys hitting on me when I was a kid and had a 19 or 20 year trying to cyber with me when I was 12 (I played along for a few minutes until I put a stop to it because I wasn't into it). Big deal.

Oh...I mean...you've caught me! I love little girls! Yes, I do!

Danny Elfman wrote my anthem. :p

 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
I wouldn't call talking sexy with a teenager "grooming". You've been a teenager before, right? Or maybe you're still a teen, I don't know. It's not like talking sexy to a 5 year old.

I'm amazed that this whole "pedo" witch hunt is still going on. I would've thought it would've burnt itself out by now and we'd be onto another target. It's like the "satanic panic" of the '80s and early '90s.

I was one of those teenagers who spoke to older guys. I didn't know what I was doing back then, I was just a naive kid ****ing around doing what I thought was "proper" adult interactions. They weren't. They were highly manipulated by the adult in the scenario. Only one out of say 10 people I spoke to actually spoke to me about the consequences and legitimately tried to protect me from doing such things. Like an adult SHOULD when faced with someone they think is underage talking like I was.
When I was 14 a man in his 40s encouraged me to appear on my webcam and "show" him how horny I was. Another in his 30s suggested that I use.....erm an instrument to "turn me on" and report the findings to him. A few other men tried to arrange "dates" and gleefully suggested that they would bring sex toys and wine. Another went into graphic detail about what he wanted to do to me and what he wanted me to do to him. I was always upfront about being 14, I responded like a 14 year old would (because hey, I actually WAS 14) and despite this I was actively encouraged into accepting sex and "relationships" with older men. And all of them told me to view it as normal, healthy and some were even excited to "pop my cherry." Thankfully I was at least savvy enough to not send pics, go on webcam, do what they wanted me to do or arrange "dates." But that's because at the time I thought it was just a joke, but I realize now that I was being manipulated, maybe not as much as the men wanted, but still manipulated. I started to question if they were right, if it was normal to have sexual encounters, to be "horny" to be "accepted" by these men. Because I didn't know any better at the time.

Contrast this with interactions with other guys my own age at the time. Yeah, they were horny, because teenagers. But they were always careful and often spoke of me being comfortable, about it being okay not to do what they wanted. Ultimately they were actually far more gentle, mature and cautious than any of the adults I spoke to.
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
So you wouldn't worry about a 12 year old girl, who looks older than what she is, meeting up with an adult because she is willing?

I live in a country where the so-called age of consent is at 14 years old. Out of pragmatism, I would stick to that. I hold that the ability to give consent to sexual activities should necessarily begin after and only after puberty ( perhaps with very rare exceptions which don't need to be discussed on this topic ). How long after the puberty onset it should be I can't tell, and I would say that it would vary from case to case.

Considering the given case, a 12 years old who looks like 18 ( which means the puberty has already started quite some time ago ) and who is willing ( wit no pressure at all ) to engage into sex with an adult to the point of giving her own address is a quite uncommon situation. As such, it may as well be the case the proper age of consent for her could be, in my opinion, below the 14 years old that I mentioned before.

The most important thing that I wanted to get at is that by pretending to look like 18 years old, this guy is not attracting the actual pedophiles who are looking for prepubescent children. He is, instead, baiting men who might not even ever have sex with teenagers ( as adults ).
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Wah wah, so have I. I had weird old black guys hitting on me when I was a kid and had a 19 or 20 year trying to cyber with me when I was 12 (I played along for a few minutes until I put a stop to it because I wasn't into it). Big deal.

Oh...I mean...you've caught me! I love little girls! Yes, I do!

Danny Elfman wrote my anthem. :p


Is it bad that the first thing I always think of when watching the Little Girls Oingo Bongo clip is "Holy ****! Is that Peter Dinklige with an 80s porno mustache!?" :eek:
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
Many sexually abused children and teenagers are compliant and never really "forced" to do anything sexual by predators. Hell even in books! Ever read Lolita? Lol actually (supposedly) instigates the sexual relationship with Humbert. Usually we hold adults to account for indulging (for lack of a better word) in the proclivities of a teenager who is under age. Not the teenager themselves. That's why we have grooming laws in the first place. Well that and the whole manipulation thing common in pedophiles and I'd argue even some hebophiles, if we're being specific.

Actually, I only read halfway through Lolita.
Anyway, without the manipulation and instigation, I honestly don't see anything wrong per se with sex between adults and teenagers.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
I was one of those teenagers who spoke to older guys. I didn't know what I was doing back then, I was just a naive kid ****ing around doing what I thought was "proper" adult interactions. They weren't. They were highly manipulated by the adult in the scenario. Only one out of say 10 people I spoke to actually spoke to me about the consequences and legitimately tried to protect me from doing such things. Like an adult SHOULD when faced with someone they think is underage talking like I was.
When I was 14 a man in his 40s encouraged me to appear on my webcam and "show" him how horny I was. Another in his 30s suggested that I use.....erm an instrument to "turn me on" and report the findings to him. A few other men tried to arrange "dates" and gleefully suggested that they would bring sex toys and wine. Another went into graphic detail about what he wanted to do to me and what he wanted me to do to him. I was always upfront about being 14, I responded like a 14 year old would (because hey, I actually WAS 14) and despite this I was actively encouraged into accepting sex and "relationships" with older men. And all of them told me to view it as normal, healthy and some were even excited to "pop my cherry." Thankfully I was at least savvy enough to not send pics, go on webcam, do what they wanted me to do or arrange "dates." But that's because at the time I thought it was just a joke, but I realize now that I was being manipulated, maybe not as much as the men wanted, but still manipulated. I started to question if they were right, if it was normal to have sexual encounters, to be "horny" to be "accepted" by these men. Because I didn't know any better at the time.

Contrast this with interactions with other guys my own age at the time. Yeah, they were horny, because teenagers. But they were always careful and often spoke of me being comfortable, about it being okay not to do what they wanted. Ultimately they were actually far more gentle, mature and cautious than any of the adults I spoke to.

Sad thing is, even in adulthood, you still get creepers who act exactly the same as those guys. I had a guy jerking off on cam and he was trying to get me naked and join in and that wasn't that long ago. Wasn't into it. Then he got all mad at me and tried to guilt me. I don't care. Just like I shut that guy down who was trying to cyber with me when I was 12 (or maybe I was 13-15. Regardless, I was underage). .

Maybe I'm just jaded, as I mentioned before.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Actually, I only read halfway through Lolita.
Anyway, without the manipulation and instigation, I honestly don't see anything wrong per se with sex between adults and teenagers.

Teenagers, is perhaps a grey area. Depending on a lot of variables. But manipulation and instigation is often intrinsic in adult relationships involving minors.
 

freethinker44

Well-Known Member
They aren't victims!
Some of them might be.

I don't know how I feel about posting their info online, if they're convicted then sure. Even though I don't really trust the justice system here in the US, I would still like to see an attempt at due process and an accusation is enough to ruin someone's life, guilty or not. If the system was perfect I'd say more power to him, but I know there have been problems with such stings here in the US.
Investigation reveals Florida police entrap men to boost sex sting arrest totals -- Society's Child -- Sott.net
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
I have always had a problem with 'set-ups'. The person might have resisted his lower urge if he didn't get such an easy opportunity placed in his lap.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Sounds like Dateline, or whatever it is we have in America with some news guy who does that.
 

Wherenextcolumbus

Well-Known Member
I live in a country where the so-called age of consent is at 14 years old. Out of pragmatism, I would stick to that. I hold that the ability to give consent to sexual activities should necessarily begin after and only after puberty ( perhaps with very rare exceptions which don't need to be discussed on this topic ). How long after the puberty onset it should be I can't tell, and I would say that it would vary from case to case.

Considering the given case, a 12 years old who looks like 18 ( which means the puberty has already started quite some time ago ) and who is willing ( wit no pressure at all ) to engage into sex with an adult to the point of giving her own address is a quite uncommon situation. As such, it may as well be the case the proper age of consent for her could be, in my opinion, below the 14 years old that I mentioned before.

The most important thing that I wanted to get at is that by pretending to look like 18 years old, this guy is not attracting the actual pedophiles who are looking for prepubescent children. He is, instead, baiting men who might not even ever have sex with teenagers ( as adults ).

What is "as long as they start puberty to you?" Some girls start their period at 8/9 years old.

Actually he has caught paedophiles, one who said he was accused of touching his grandaughter. Another who assaulted an underage girl before. It's not baiting if you are told several times the person you are speaking to is under the age of 16. And then you proceed to groom by asking them if they are a virgin or if they masturbate and all kinds of other inappropriate questions to ask a young person who is 11,12,13,14,15.
Why are you acting like they are not responsible for their actions because the girl or boy may look a bit older to them?
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
What is "as long as they start puberty to you?" Some girls start their period at 8/9 years old.

I didn't say "as long as they start puberty". So I can't explain what I have not said.

Actually he has caught paedophiles, one who said he was accused of touching his grandaughter. Another who assaulted an underage girl before.

Good to know.

It's not baiting if you are told several times the person you are speaking to is under the age of 16. And then you proceed to groom by asking them if they are a virgin or if they masturbate and all kinds of other inappropriate questions to ask a young person who is 11,12,13,14,15.

I don't really think those questions you mentioned are inappropriate, at least not by themselves.

Why are you acting like they are not responsible for their actions because the girl or boy may look a bit older to them?

I think you are not comprehending what I am saying. I brought up that "she" looks much older to say "she" wasn't selected for being a child.
We are always responsible for our actions.
 
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