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The "Pick-me-up" Thread

Neo-Logic

Reality Checker
Here's a fun story:

How tigers are trapped. Hunters use cheese clothes (think opaque fabrics) and tie them around trees and create a barrier. They then create noises and lead tigers into these traps and close all sides with cheese clothes. Tigers run around in all directions until they see the cheese clothes and perceive it as an impenetrable wall and become trapped on all sides.

How elephants are trained in circuses. When elephants are babies, one of their legs are tied with heavy chains staked to the ground. They cannot move more than a certain short distance before the heavy chain shackles the baby elephant and restrains its movement. Elephants have great memories. As a result, they become conditioned and remember that every time they feel the slightest of tug or pressure on the same leg, they stop trying to move. When they become full grown adults, far too powerful for any chains to retrain, they are held in place simply by a piece of rope and stake on the ground because in their minds, resistance has become all but futile.

These are stories that parallels the human mind and our conditioning in life. Both stories tell an important tale about self-doubt and self-perception. If only the tiger had known that it could easily run through any of the cheese clothes it perceived as barriers, it would be free and alive. If only the elephant knew to not give up and give in to restraints or pressure, it could move around freely when nothing can truly hold it in place but the prison created in its own mind. It also says something about the importance of having mentors in life, and positive influences. Imagine if someone had whispered to the tiger and the elephant that they were never trapped in reality, but only in their minds, imagine how different their situation could be.

Remind you of any life stories you know?
 

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend John,

Religion is a WAY and *via negativa* is also a WAY!

One is free to go to the extreme point even negative feelings.

Love & rgds
 

John D

Spiritsurfer
Friend John,

Religion is a WAY and *via negativa* is also a WAY!

One is free to go to the extreme point even negative feelings.

Love & rgds

Why ??:shrug:
Freedom cannot be the answer to everything or the excuse for anything.
Ja, you are free to be free.
But it is pointless to spiral downwards till you reach some slimy pit of self hatred or something.
To be alive as a human being is to develop and to me that is progression - forward, up, unwards.
I have been in the pits long enough. No human must to stay there- even by choice.
 
a couple of days ago, sitting in macdonalds, looking out of the window, i saw a guy outside, (must of been waiting for someone) probably in his mid 50s with a kid in a pushchair just spinning it round and round for what seemed like forever, and the kid was laughing and the man looked so content and happy and completely unaware of everyone else on the street and of the fact that he looked a bit foolish, ..small things like that often strike me as so poignant and beautiful .... but maybe i'm just a bit simple, haha
also this song http://www.singingfool.com/Title.aspx?publishedid=88130
 
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ericoh2

******
"Do you know how St. Francis of Assisi loved Jesus and became one with him? He loved him as Jesus ought to be loved; but in Francis's group there was one who was a glutton. Juniper loved Francis most, though he did not sit in meditation or think of anything. He gave more trouble to Francis than anyone, yet he loved Francis dearly. When we love from the bottom of our hearts we give all our good and bad, even our troubles; the lover gives everything and demands nothing. I give everything and demand nothing.
Love me like that and Baba is your slave. Even if you can't do that, don't worry. As long as you are mine, you need not worry. You are mine, that is why I have drawn you such long distances. If you can't picture me, don't worry; if you don't love me, don't worry; I love you."


--Meher Baba


Here's a beautiful song as well :).



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f56lELufeQE
 

John D

Spiritsurfer
a couple of days ago, sitting in macdonalds, looking out of the window, i saw a guy outside, (must of been waiting for someone) probably in his mid 50s with a kid in a pushchair just spinning it round and round for what seemed like forever, and the kid was laughing and the man looked so content and happy and completely unaware of everyone else on the street and of the fact that he looked a bit foolish, ..small things like that often strike me as so poignant and beautiful .... but maybe i'm just a bit simple, haha
also this song SingingFool.com - The Flaming Lips - Race For The Prize - Music Video

That is what I called a "sane moment" and moments like that buy back some sanity and very needed rest for my soul
Thank you for sharing it.
 

blaze armstrong

New Member
I saw a really amusing quote on the signature of one of the other members here. I forgot his name. it came from the Calvin and Hobbes comic. Calvin was quoted saying:

"That's the difference between me and the rest of the world! Happiness isn't good enough for me! I demand euphoria!"

That made my day
 

John D

Spiritsurfer
“Fathers and teachers, I ponder, What is hell?
I maintain that hell is the suffering of being unable to love.”
Dostoyevsky
 
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