Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Enjoy the green environmentally friendly future.
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The plain truth about EVs. Hope you have fire insurance.
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Enjoy the green environmentally friendly future.
rocala
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and the alternative is...?
It appears the car that may have started the fire may have been mishandled. According to the expert.
And i should hope all car owners have at a minimum 3rd party fire and theft cover. If not then that is totally irresponsible
And i should hope all car owners have at a minimum 3rd party fire and theft cover. If not then that is totally irresponsible
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Everyone becomes Amish by mandate.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Imagine that happening in a parking garage where people work or worse, live at.
Fires burning for days.
Evs are safety hazards.
rocala
Well-Known Member
Well there is always old-fashioned non-green cars. So much safer.
An estimated 212,500 vehicle fires caused 560 civilian deaths,
1,500 civilian injuries; and $1.9 billion in direct property damage in
the US during 2018
Source - https://www.nfpa.org/-/media/Files/...nd-reports/US-Fire-Problem/osvehiclefires.pdf
An estimated 212,500 vehicle fires caused 560 civilian deaths,
1,500 civilian injuries; and $1.9 billion in direct property damage in
the US during 2018
Source - https://www.nfpa.org/-/media/Files/...nd-reports/US-Fire-Problem/osvehiclefires.pdf
wellwisher
Well-Known Member
The fires will become more common as batteries age and charging stations get stronger and faster. They may have to come up with charging standards based on adapters for each generation battery and station.
A Lithium fire, once started, cannot be put out with water, since the water and the lithium will react to make hydrogen, and cause the fire to get worse.
Below is a link to a YouTube video
Putting a lithium battery in water
A Lithium fire, once started, cannot be put out with water, since the water and the lithium will react to make hydrogen, and cause the fire to get worse.
Below is a link to a YouTube video
Putting a lithium battery in water
It's almost as if technology isn't, actually, that good of a thing... and we should have stuck to walking and horses. Might not be in a sixth mass extinction event if we'd stuck to horses.
Incidentally, near where i lived in the UK a multi storey car park with a supermarket, tat shop and night club underneath was closed the structure evacuated because of a car fire.
I think it destroyed about 12 other cars and caused a couple of million pounds worth of damage to the building structure. The supermarket and shop had to close permanently, the club moved to new premises.
This was before EV were a thing, the vehicle in question was a petrol (gas) ford escort..
The reality is that all modern cars/trucks have batteries.
My V10 engine 1999 F350 spontaneously caught fire
because of a short circuit (likely a cruise control defect).
So all you IC engine car owners need fire insurance too.
Now for my next post....
Water contaminated with dihydrogen oxide can kill you!
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exchemist
Veteran Member
Haha, the moment I saw the title contained the words “the plain truth”, I knew it would be a pack of lies.
The video does not suggest in any way that EVs are more likely to cause fires than hydrocarbon-fuelled vehicles. What it points out is that battery fires need to be extinguished in a different way, and that car carriers are not currently equipped with the necessary methods, so that’s an issue the shipping industry needs to address.
P.S. Here are some stats from an insurance company comparing the fire risk of EVs with IC engined vehicles: Gas vs. Electric Car Fires [2023 Findings] | AutoinsuranceEZ.com
Electric vehicles are far less likely to catch fire than ICE vehicles.
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rocala
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I know what you mean. Trouble is with the size of the world population horses equal an awful lot of methane production. Bikes however are looking good.
With horses as prime movers, Earth's human
population could never have become what
it now is.
rocala
Well-Known Member
I agree. My comment was referring to horses as an answer to the present dilemma not a reference to the past.
Well, replacing IC engines with horses
would indeed kill off most of the humans.
However, I see that as politically unlikely.
Horses produce more pollutants than just methane; they can't be turned off, and must be constantly fed, whether they're doing work or not.
Plus, their feed required large quantities of water and space. Our aquifers are already drying up, weather patterns are changing, and we're already devoting vast acreage, needed for the wilderness the ecosystem depends on, to livestock.
We're depleting resources at an unprecedented rate. Natural systems are collapsing. Our population is already unsustainable. Our effect on the planet is comparable to a disease bacteria's effect on a living organism.
Population underlies everything. The planet is terminally ill.
rocala
Well-Known Member
A few years ago, I was on a Permaculture Design course given by the late Patrick Whitefield. One evening we were relaxing and a conversation on the state of our environment began. For most of it, Patrick was just listening, offering the odd correction or confirmation. Then one woman asked him directly, "what should we do." He paused and then quietly said, "to be honest, I think it is too late." I will never forget the silence and the chill that descended on the room as we digested what this incredibly knowledgeable man had just said.