The plain truth about EVs. Hope you have fire insurance.

[rocala]

Then they will complain about horse farts into the atmosphere.

Posts 15 and 18 have already mentioned this.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Enjoy the green environmentally friendly future.

And when we transitioned from horses to cars opinions on the subject were as smooth as velvet and there were no issues to be considered or new things to learn?

 

[Viker]

Just imagine the impact of billions riding horses. It would probably be a pretty big carbon hoof print.

 

[PureX]

EVs have been around for quite a while. Yet now, suddenly, according to knee-jerk media, they are bursting into flame all around us.

It smells of a corporate sponsored slander campaign to me. Especially when it's all sensational images and no actual facts or statistics.

 

[wellwisher]

Dr. John F. Clauser, joint recipient of the 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics, has criticized the climate emergency narrative calling it “a dangerous corruption of science that threatens the world’s economy and the well-being of billions of people.”

Along with two others, Dr Clauser, an experimental and theoretical physicist, was the 2022 recipient of the Nobel Prize for work done in the 1970s that showed “quantum entanglement” allowed particles such as photons, effectively, to interact at great distances, seemingly to require communication exceeding the speed of light.

He has criticized the awarding of the 2021 Nobel Prize for work in the development of computer models predicting global warming, according to a coalition of scientists and commentators who argue that an informed discussion about CO2 would recognise its importance in sustaining plant life.

In a statement issued by the CO2 coalition, Nobel Laureate John Clauser Elected to CO2 Coalition Board of Directors – CO2 Coalition Dr. Clauser said that “there is no climate crisis and that increasing CO2 concentrations will benefit the world”

I remember Obama being given the Nobel Peace Prize before he did anything; prestige booster. He would go on to start the Arab Spring War. The Pulitzer Prize was given to NYT reporters for lies about the Russian Collusion Coup. Like Obama they got to keep the awards, even when caught in hypocrisy. One can see how the Left games the system, even using the prestige of Big Prizes as a smoke screen. Now we have a Nobel prize for a computer model for predicting global warming. How self serving and convenient is that?

Going electric is driven by the climate change fear narrative, and not by extended common sense. We do not have the electric grid, to make this happen. This will still need fossils fuel to work, since there will be foot dragging in terms of nuclear. While solar and wind are not sufficient for the extra electric needs.

I like the point Dr Clauser makes about CO2 and plant life. The Climate scam has made CO2 such a bogeyman, we can not even talk about how plants, which are very important to food and vegans diets, benefit by more CO2. It is well know that plants grown bigger and faster if you increase their CO2. This will feed the growing world populations if we stop being so paranoid. Cows eat grass and make CO2, which grass uses to grow back. It is part of the earth's natural life cycle.

CO2 was never placed in the middle; both the pros and cons, but shifted to one end; cons, so it can be made scarier. Early today I wrote about how foundation premises can funnel your thinking, and limit how you can see the data.

As another example of the Lefty Con job, Dr Fauci of COVID fame is now in trouble for lying to Congress. It is now known and accepted that the COVID virus came from gain of function research funded by the USA and China, done in China. Leading geneticists noticed that there are genes inserted that could not have formed from bats. These are too specialized and would have to be artificially inserted, instead of appearing naturally via evolutionary pressures and changes. A good narrative with props and censor, can hide the truth, but not forever.

Lastly, notice that Dr Clauser got his Nobel Prize about 50 years after his discovery. Why does it take so long for the bureaucracy of science, to see the light? We keep hearing how science is rational and evidence driven. It would appear to be me that if the leaders were as smart as being sold, they would have been ready to go, sooner. This may well be due to the politics of money in science.

Clauser may have been a victim of political science, that needed decades to correct. He may have been a threat to a money train back then. I can see, how he can see, the reverse happening in climate science; conclusions bum rushed way ahead of the data, to fit an agenda; Nobel Prize ahead of time, for the extra optics.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Dr. John F. Clauser, joint recipient of the 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics, has criticized the climate emergency narrative calling it “a dangerous corruption of science that threatens the world’s economy and the well-being of billions of people.”

Along with two others, Dr Clauser, an experimental and theoretical physicist, was the 2022 recipient of the Nobel Prize for work done in the 1970s that showed “quantum entanglement” allowed particles such as photons, effectively, to interact at great distances, seemingly to require communication exceeding the speed of light.

He has criticized the awarding of the 2021 Nobel Prize for work in the development of computer models predicting global warming, according to a coalition of scientists and commentators who argue that an informed discussion about CO2 would recognise its importance in sustaining plant life.

In a statement issued by the CO2 coalition, Nobel Laureate John Clauser Elected to CO2 Coalition Board of Directors – CO2 Coalition Dr. Clauser said that “there is no climate crisis and that increasing CO2 concentrations will benefit the world”

I remember Obama being given the Nobel Peace Prize before he did anything; prestige booster. He would go on to start the Arab Spring War. The Pulitzer Prize was given to NYT reporters for lies about the Russian Collusion Coup. Like Obama they got to keep the awards, even when caught in hypocrisy. One can see how the Left games the system, even using the prestige of Big Prizes as a smoke screen. Now we have a Nobel prize for a computer model for predicting global warming. How self serving and convenient is that?

Going electric is driven by the climate change fear narrative, and not by extended common sense. We do not have the electric grid, to make this happen. This will still need fossils fuel to work, since there will be foot dragging in terms of nuclear. While solar and wind are not sufficient for the extra electric needs.

I like the point Dr Clauser makes about CO2 and plant life. The Climate scam has made CO2 such a bogeyman, we can not even talk about how plants, which are very important to food and vegans diets, benefit by more CO2. It is well know that plants grown bigger and faster if you increase their CO2. This will feed the growing world populations if we stop being so paranoid. Cows eat grass and make CO2, which grass uses to grow back. It is part of the earth's natural life cycle.

CO2 was never placed in the middle; both the pros and cons, but shifted to one end; cons, so it can be made scarier. Early today I wrote about how foundation premises can funnel your thinking, and limit how you can see the data.

As another example of the Lefty Con job, Dr Fauci of COVID fame is now in trouble for lying to Congress. It is now known and accepted that the COVID virus came from gain of function research funded by the USA and China, done in China. Leading geneticists noticed that there are genes inserted that could not have formed from bats. These are too specialized and would have to be artificially inserted, instead of appearing naturally via evolutionary pressures and changes. A good narrative with props and censor, can hide the truth, but not forever.

Lastly, notice that Dr Clauser got his Nobel Prize about 50 years after his discovery. Why does it take so long for the bureaucracy of science, to see the light? We keep hearing how science is rational and evidence driven. It would appear to be me that if the leaders were as smart as being sold, they would have been ready to go, sooner. This may well be due to the politics of money in science.

Clauser may have been a victim of political science, that needed decades to correct. He may have been a threat to a money train back then. I can see, how he can see, the reverse happening in climate science; conclusions bum rushed way ahead of the data, to fit an agenda; Nobel Prize ahead of time, for the extra optics.

So what? The man appears to be a crank in this matter. Please listen. He is a very successful scientist. He knows how science is done. Why isn't he arguing properly? Red flags should be flying. He knows that the proper way to oppose this would be to find flaws in the concept and write an article and submit it for peer review.

That he has not done so tells us that even he knows that he is wrong.

 

[Windwalker]

Then they will complain about horse farts into the atmosphere.

Can't win.

Sure we can win. We can win when we listen to the experts who say you can't **** in the water you drink, and then quit making excuses for our own bad behaviors.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Enjoy the green environmentally friendly future.

The engine in my friend's little gas-powered Honda Civic caught on fire while she was sitting around waiting to pick up her daughter in a parking lot a couple of weeks ago. I guess nothing's perfect, eh?

 

[SkepticThinker]

Everyone becomes Amish by mandate.

And eats bugs?

 

[SkepticThinker]

Imagine that happening in a parking garage where people work or worse, live at.

Fires burning for days.

Evs are safety hazards.

Happened to my friend in her gas-powered car just a couple of weeks ago.

Gas-powered automobiles are safety hazards.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Dr. John F. Clauser, joint recipient of the 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics, has criticized the climate emergency narrative calling it “a dangerous corruption of science that threatens the world’s economy and the well-being of billions of people.”

Along with two others, Dr Clauser, an experimental and theoretical physicist, was the 2022 recipient of the Nobel Prize for work done in the 1970s that showed “quantum entanglement” allowed particles such as photons, effectively, to interact at great distances, seemingly to require communication exceeding the speed of light.

He has criticized the awarding of the 2021 Nobel Prize for work in the development of computer models predicting global warming, according to a coalition of scientists and commentators who argue that an informed discussion about CO2 would recognise its importance in sustaining plant life.

In a statement issued by the CO2 coalition, Nobel Laureate John Clauser Elected to CO2 Coalition Board of Directors – CO2 Coalition Dr. Clauser said that “there is no climate crisis and that increasing CO2 concentrations will benefit the world”

I remember Obama being given the Nobel Peace Prize before he did anything; prestige booster. He would go on to start the Arab Spring War. The Pulitzer Prize was given to NYT reporters for lies about the Russian Collusion Coup. Like Obama they got to keep the awards, even when caught in hypocrisy. One can see how the Left games the system, even using the prestige of Big Prizes as a smoke screen. Now we have a Nobel prize for a computer model for predicting global warming. How self serving and convenient is that?

Going electric is driven by the climate change fear narrative, and not by extended common sense. We do not have the electric grid, to make this happen. This will still need fossils fuel to work, since there will be foot dragging in terms of nuclear. While solar and wind are not sufficient for the extra electric needs.

I like the point Dr Clauser makes about CO2 and plant life. The Climate scam has made CO2 such a bogeyman, we can not even talk about how plants, which are very important to food and vegans diets, benefit by more CO2. It is well know that plants grown bigger and faster if you increase their CO2. This will feed the growing world populations if we stop being so paranoid. Cows eat grass and make CO2, which grass uses to grow back. It is part of the earth's natural life cycle.

CO2 was never placed in the middle; both the pros and cons, but shifted to one end; cons, so it can be made scarier. Early today I wrote about how foundation premises can funnel your thinking, and limit how you can see the data.

As another example of the Lefty Con job, Dr Fauci of COVID fame is now in trouble for lying to Congress. It is now known and accepted that the COVID virus came from gain of function research funded by the USA and China, done in China. Leading geneticists noticed that there are genes inserted that could not have formed from bats. These are too specialized and would have to be artificially inserted, instead of appearing naturally via evolutionary pressures and changes. A good narrative with props and censor, can hide the truth, but not forever.

Lastly, notice that Dr Clauser got his Nobel Prize about 50 years after his discovery. Why does it take so long for the bureaucracy of science, to see the light? We keep hearing how science is rational and evidence driven. It would appear to be me that if the leaders were as smart as being sold, they would have been ready to go, sooner. This may well be due to the politics of money in science.

Clauser may have been a victim of political science, that needed decades to correct. He may have been a threat to a money train back then. I can see, how he can see, the reverse happening in climate science; conclusions bum rushed way ahead of the data, to fit an agenda; Nobel Prize ahead of time, for the extra optics.

We didn't have the grid when we switched from horses to automobiles either, and yet we somehow managed to do it.
Despite the nay-saying of all the Debbie Downers in the world.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Happened to my friend in her gas-powered car just a couple of weeks ago.

Gas-powered automobiles are safety hazards.

Car engine fires are common enough so that they are merely examples of dog bites man. EV's are still very new so their rather rare fires are in the category of man bites dog. I have seen more than one ICE on the side of the road with flames coming from under the hood. EV's are still so rare that I have not even seen one of them broken down on the side of the road.

 

[Revoltingest]

Speaking of car fires....
"Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts."

 

[ImmortalFlame]

It's almost as if technology isn't, actually, that good of a thing... and we should have stuck to walking and horses. Might not be in a sixth mass extinction event if we'd stuck to horses.

Depending on the size and number of horses, of course.

Nobody anticipates horse-geddon!