The pointlessness of marriage?

[nnmartin]

I'm go'n out on a limb here.
Either.....
1) You aren't married.
2) You'd never let your better half see your posts about marriage.

I wouldn't want too many people in the real world seeing my posts as they may get the wrong impression

 

[averageJOE]

Now that sounds great in a general spiritual manner but how can something as esoteric as that really have any place in law?

(and I'm not talking about religious weddings here)



The same applies here. Why should we need a piece of paper to attain our family's support and joy anyway?

If I was on a deployment overseas and recieved critical injuries from and IED or gun shot the government would not fly my wife overseas to see me in the hospital without that "piece of paper" to prove that we are married. And if I then died she would not get any of my life insurance monies because she does not have that "piece of paper".

 

[Gjallarhorn]

ok, what else is it about then?

if you say love, then how does a piece of paper make that any different?

Some believe it shows commitment or acts like a physical representation of love, much like wedding bands. In this case, however, the benefits are a nice bonus.

 

[Foxfire]

that sounds great but what real difference does having a legal marriage make to this arrangement?

Love is all in the mind and a piece of paper is going to change this except for perhaps a very short time.

boyfriend and girlfriend or husband and wife - what's the difference apart from a few financial benefits?

Love is not all in the mind. It inhabits every cell and molecule in your body. This is a very strong belief of mine, not scientifically validated, but oh well.... I think I'll live without the empirical deification on some things I hold dear.

A legal marriage symbolizes inside and out what we have committed to each other. It enables responsibility. It helps us think our troubles through and improves us. We can't always have instant gratification and we shouldn't always want it, either.

It also has a lot of practical uses which I will allow others here to enumerate for you. Or you can go look them up.

Marriage shows a kind of grown-up maturity in the society we find ourselves in.

Hey, whatever floats your boat. I can't decide for you, only you can do that. If you don't like marriage and don't want to get married then don't. Fill your boots.

But to suggest marriage should be abolished simply because of your views on it, seems immature and not very well thought out in my opinion.

 

[Kathryn]

sure, why not?

and income can just be gained from other sources.

In your imaginary world, it seems that you think there's some magic money tree that the government can go out to and just pick it's budget from. Of course you probably got that idea from the way our government spends like there's no tomorrow - but we're actually in governmental debt up to our eyeballs.

Just sayin'.

 

[blackout]

I wouldn't want too many people in the real world seeing my posts as they may get the wrong impression

And what wrong impression might that be?




(wonders what kind of 'impression' we're getting)

 

[Revoltingest]

I wouldn't want too many people in the real world seeing my posts as they may get the wrong impression

Hah! Were I you, I'd worry that they might get the right impression.

 

[Revoltingest]

And what wrong impression might that be?
(wonders what kind of 'impression' we're getting)

I get the impression that you are very purple.
This is good.

In your imaginary world, it seems that you think there's some magic money tree that the government can go out to and just pick it's budget from. Of course you probably got that idea from the way our government spends like there's no tomorrow - but we're actually in governmental debt up to our eyeballs.

Simple!
One need only print it as needed.

 

[Kathryn]

I get the impression that you are very purple.
This is good.


Simple!
One need only print it as needed.

Oh yes, of course you're right. We DO have a money tree after all!

 

[nnmartin]

think how much money the government can actually save by abolishing marriage though - no more benefits etc..this would more than compensate.

 

[nnmartin]

And what wrong impression might that be?
(wonders what kind of 'impression' we're getting)

They may just not understand enough, or be prepared to put in the thought required to see why many of their basic societal beliefs need challenging.

Too busy in the comfort zone most likely.

 

[McBell]

think how much money the government can actually save by abolishing marriage though - no more benefits etc..this would more than compensate.

Wonder how many lawyers would get together to put a stop to your ban?

 

[nnmartin]

who cares about the lawyers, they would be over-ridden by the National law.

 

[Revoltingest]

who cares about the lawyers, they would be over-ridden by the National law.

There would be no lawyers to oppose the will of government?
Decrees from on high would be issued, & opposition is not allowed?

 

[nnmartin]

yes, sure - why not?

why have all the squabbling and money making by lawyers, only fighting for what is best for them and their clients, when the benefit of the nation is at stake?

 

[Revoltingest]

yes, sure - why not?

Tis a potential drawback that government would have absolute power, ie, no objection is allowed.
In which countries in the world does such power work out well for its citizens today?

 

[nnmartin]

objection should be allowed, but only within reason.

 

[ChristineES]

what is the point of getting married if you do not want or cannot have children?

People want to be joined together for life and they want to do it legally as well as spiritually. And there are tax benefits as well. Marriage isn't only about having children. And some religions (Christianity) believe that sex outside of marriage is a sin- so religious people want to get married for that reason. A lot of us don't see it as being pointless.

 

[nnmartin]

tax benefits? - where's the love in that I ask.

 

[Me Myself]

I am basing my opinions on the natural biology and psychology of mankind so that gives them a high level of validity.

We´ve been over this before.

Biologically speaking, men are made to be able to rape women. Psychologically speaking, Freud saw most women did have fantasies about being raped and men fantasies about raping.

So, biologically and psychologically speaking, "rape is okay".

Also, human females can carry babies like since they are around 9 years old.

So from the kind of justifications you are trying to make, I would have a higher level of validity if I started to state that raping 9 year olds should be legal.

Naturally, we´ve risen above that long ago. So stop pretending nature is a "high level" morality.

It´s unendingly ridiculous.