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The Political Compass
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T-Dawg
Self-appointed Lunatic
Economic Left/Right: -8.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.18
The test is woefully inaccurate, which is understandable considering that it was written by Welsh socialists that possibly had the agenda of making most test-takers appear to the left of the Labour Party, which they were opposed to.
Some of the questions are so blatantly loaded that it's a wonder that any actual test-takers can manage to get authoritarian right on the scale (it can reasonably be assumed that most of the politicians depicted on the scale have not actually taken the test). Sadly, some people apparently DO manage to get authoritarian right (you pretty much have to be both a psychotic corporatist and/or free market disciple and hardline religious loonie to even hope to get in the blue square).
For example, the very first statement is that a potential global government should serve the people rather than multinational corporations. WHO COULD POSSIBLY DISAGREE WITH THAT?!?
And there's the statement that the government should "penalize businesses that mislead the public." That could mean anything - even people like Ayn Rand would believe that blatant FRAUD should be punished.
The question about abstract art seems out of place.
The test asks about astrology as an indicator of authoritarianism, but most of our current crop of authoritarians, being fundamentalist Christians, are very anti-astrology.
The test also fails to ask about specific religious values - it only asks whether you think that it's "important that schools instill religious values" into children. What are "religious values"? Would encouragement of atheism (which I would support) count as a religious value?
The only question on the nature of democracy itself is based on whether or not an advantage of single-party states is that they avoid the long arguments of two/multi-party states. I could see virtue in a single-party state, but not for the reason they give. (Indeed, I recall on another forum, a self-proclaimed fascist managed to get labeled as a liberal by the test)
It seems to conflate religious values with authoritarianism, in addition to conflating not being a depraved sociopath with being a leftist. While religion is definitely, in most cases, authoritarian, it is not the only method of authoritarianism out there, and shockingly, there are a few free market supporters out there who aren't depraved sociopaths (the general belief is that there IS no conflict between the good of humanity and the good of business, therefore the first question of the test is unanswerable).
If the test were more comprehensive, I would undoubtedly be labeled more authoritarian than I currently am (I lose faith in democracy each time I interact with normal people).
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.18
The test is woefully inaccurate, which is understandable considering that it was written by Welsh socialists that possibly had the agenda of making most test-takers appear to the left of the Labour Party, which they were opposed to.
Some of the questions are so blatantly loaded that it's a wonder that any actual test-takers can manage to get authoritarian right on the scale (it can reasonably be assumed that most of the politicians depicted on the scale have not actually taken the test). Sadly, some people apparently DO manage to get authoritarian right (you pretty much have to be both a psychotic corporatist and/or free market disciple and hardline religious loonie to even hope to get in the blue square).
For example, the very first statement is that a potential global government should serve the people rather than multinational corporations. WHO COULD POSSIBLY DISAGREE WITH THAT?!?
And there's the statement that the government should "penalize businesses that mislead the public." That could mean anything - even people like Ayn Rand would believe that blatant FRAUD should be punished.
The question about abstract art seems out of place.
The test asks about astrology as an indicator of authoritarianism, but most of our current crop of authoritarians, being fundamentalist Christians, are very anti-astrology.
The test also fails to ask about specific religious values - it only asks whether you think that it's "important that schools instill religious values" into children. What are "religious values"? Would encouragement of atheism (which I would support) count as a religious value?
The only question on the nature of democracy itself is based on whether or not an advantage of single-party states is that they avoid the long arguments of two/multi-party states. I could see virtue in a single-party state, but not for the reason they give. (Indeed, I recall on another forum, a self-proclaimed fascist managed to get labeled as a liberal by the test)
It seems to conflate religious values with authoritarianism, in addition to conflating not being a depraved sociopath with being a leftist. While religion is definitely, in most cases, authoritarian, it is not the only method of authoritarianism out there, and shockingly, there are a few free market supporters out there who aren't depraved sociopaths (the general belief is that there IS no conflict between the good of humanity and the good of business, therefore the first question of the test is unanswerable).
If the test were more comprehensive, I would undoubtedly be labeled more authoritarian than I currently am (I lose faith in democracy each time I interact with normal people).
wayward_teen
Beautiful Disaster
Economic Left/Right: -0.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28
Fairly moderate economically, but rather liberal socially. Sadly, I don't think that there are any countries that actually exist near me.
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28
Fairly moderate economically, but rather liberal socially. Sadly, I don't think that there are any countries that actually exist near me.
wayward_teen
Beautiful Disaster
Also, I found another website that has a much better reputation than the Political Compass and, IMO, has much better questions.
This feels much more accurate to me as far as my political opinions are concerned.
This feels much more accurate to me as far as my political opinions are concerned.
T-Dawg
Self-appointed Lunatic
Also, I found another website that has a much better reputation than the Political Compass and, IMO, has much better questions.
This feels much more accurate to me as far as my political opinions are concerned.
So... can you link us to the website?
EDIT: I think I found it... http://politics.beasts.org/scripts/survey
I don't think it's incredibly accurate, but the pragmatic/idealist scale is much more on target than the political compass equivalent.
EDIT2: Eh, I just noticed something... since when was Josef Stalin a right-of-center idealist???
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Gjallarhorn
N'yog-Sothep
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
I'm in the green along with everyone else.
Alceste
Vagabond
Except Western heads of state - they're all in the blue.
ScottySatan
Well-Known Member
The two tests give very different answers don't they? But everyone here is the same as everyone else on both tests.
What does it mean that everyone here's the same?
I'm purple.
What does it mean that everyone here's the same?
I'm purple.
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ohhcuppycakee
Active Member
Economic Left/Right: -5.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.67
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.67
Economic Left/Right: -5.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.67
I'm pretty close to that.
So far, I'm the most libertarian poster here (ie, the purpley far lower right quadrant).
But in the American context, that lower left quadrant isn't truly libertarian, since it opposes economic liberty.
Majikthise
nude
Economic :-0.75
Social : -2.26
A little below center, just to the left. Is that good?
Social : -2.26
A little below center, just to the left. Is that good?
No. You're a centrist who leans left.Economic :-0.75
Social : -2.26
A little below center, just to the left. Is that good?
But with counseling, you may become a purple quadrant type.
Majikthise
nude
I don't understand it. I beat my children.
That is not very purple. It's more red or blue.
Majikthise
nude
I don't do it so it leaves marks.
(No, I don't really hit my kids, I'm only kidding)
(No, I don't really hit my kids, I'm only kidding)
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