The principle of vibration

[zenzero]

Friends,
Kindly remember that
*Truth once spoken is falsified* and for this Lao Tsu never wanted to write anything but to be free from humankind had to and so that was the first statement he made.
Not that what he knows or states is wrong but human mind is always biased and will derive its own meaning from any word depending on the individual's *thought* pattern.
Religion is all about no-thought* which the thick mind of friend skydivephil does not get into and getting it may appear *eternity*.
Once again repeat that science uses *thoughts* and religion uses *no thoughts* and the place they meet is in between the thoughts and its stillness.
The day friend skydivephil finds out the scientifc reasons and how these BLACK HOLES operate then the point of science and religion is found.
Best Wishes.
Love & rgds

 

[ericoh2]

Profundity that can not be communicated clearly is generally a sign of confusion being misinterpreted as profundity. Unordered minds rarely have anything significant to convey.

I see a different picture. Existence is a paradox and is at least very difficult to communicate clearly by normal/clear methods. Some of the most insightful individuals who ever lived often spoke in parables or with contradictions. Lao Tzu, Khalil Gibran, Gurdjieff, Jesus, Osho, Alan Watts, Walt Whitman, Nietzsche and many others all used, at various times, language that appeared confusing on the surface but contained profound meaning at a deeper level.

 

[zenzero]

Friend a totalstranger,

Unordered minds rarely have anything significant to convey.

Mind is either *thoughts* or *no-thoughts*.
Those whose minds are *no-thoughts* could appear to be *unordered* by a mind with *thoughts*.
From the perspective of thoughts *no-thoughts* are difficult to follow and hence could be labeled insignificant.
However only when thoughts *STILL* does the individual for the first time becomes open to another level of science where significance is much more than in thoughts.
It is like the body which is just a mass of flesh, bones & blood but when one slowly understands that it is also energy and everything in this universe is energy and that invisible energy is becoming a body a form then only one understands the aspect of Stillness of thoughts.
Yes the other unordered mind too is there which do not think or incapable of thinking.

Love & rgds

 

[imaginaryme]

Wow relativistic time dilation is not a real property of the universe? How do you explain the fact the decay of muons has been observed to slow down when they are accelerated then? Not only do they slow down , but they slow down by the exact rate that relativity predicts?

We are neither relativistic nor of the quantum. I would insist upon my inchoate hypothesis of two distinct timelike dimensions to be another step towards understanding these things - but I ain't gotta insist jack; cause I don't know jack. However, I may have discovered the first Law.

The Law of Anarchy.

And I must attest to a fusion of Eastern and Western thought. Christian doctrine indicates fasting and social isolation (forty days in the wilderness) is the path to Enlightenment; while Eastern doctrine seems to be one of meditation and awareness of suffering. For I know nothing, and do nothing; but now I have intent. To build a "minor house of philosophy" now that I have my first principle. And if I'm the first to publish, the G in GUT may go down in history -

As Gwyneth. :disco:

Part of my philosophy is of course a form of numerology. Not that the numbers have an intrinsic meaning, but rather that the language of number has an inherent archival capacity. Like 7zip. Because I have another four that unifies seven into one and contains more data than information. Consider the space between, the yellow and the green; and one can almost see the light.

Phil, have you heard the term, quantum leap of understanding? This is how one who is a proper initiate understands how one is a proper guru - and it also fits under the Principle of Vibration. One who is prepared to learn will experience these quantum leaps from the wise man - and these leaps all assume the same form of data compression - but first, student and teacher must resonate.

As to Gurdjieff, I first heard this name at the beginning of the year, in a work of fiction, no less; and my total knowledge is the few pages I've read from links in this thread, he seems "sensei-equivalent."

 

[imaginaryme]

Friends,
Kindly remember that
*Truth once spoken is falsified* and for this Lao Tsu never wanted to write anything but to be free from humankind had to and so that was the first statement he made.
Not that what he knows or states is wrong but human mind is always biased and will derive its own meaning from any word depending on the individual's *thought* pattern.
Religion is all about no-thought* which the thick mind of friend skydivephil does not get into and getting it may appear *eternity*.
Once again repeat that science uses *thoughts* and religion uses *no thoughts* and the place they meet is in between the thoughts and its stillness.
The day friend skydivephil finds out the scientifc reasons and how these BLACK HOLES operate then the point of science and religion is found.
Best Wishes.
Love & rgds

...and I just hypothesized the Law of Anarchy for much the same reasons. The universe did not sprout from the absolute truth - for truth is absolute - but rather germinates from the seed of the necessary lie. What is currently the first lie other than language, I ask as a mathematical theologian who sees in number?

As for vibration, sensei zenzero; we each seem to initiate our lack.

First I must return to the source - art - then I shall return with effective artifice - then I shall allow myself to still. Love and regards.

 

[zenzero]

Friend imagineryme,

First I must return to the source - art - then I shall return with effective artifice - then I shall allow myself to still. Love and regards.

That is the only WAY.
Yes, by STILLING the mind, One returns to source, out of its own accord.
effort if any, is only to remain STILL, doing NOTHING .

Buddha bless you!

Love & rgds

 

[imaginaryme]

Friend imagineryme,



That is the only WAY.
Yes, by STILLING the mind, One returns to source, out of its own accord.
effort if any, is only to remain STILL, doing NOTHING .

Buddha bless you!

Love & rgds

If I have "done" anything it is by conceptualizing "the first Cause" - which has Caused nothing but needless speculation - into A - necessarily lie - which is necessary right here, right now - because the necessity of lie can be explained through mathematics from me to the limits of current scientific speculation / and simultaneously can express from my Western acculturation - through my entire culture - that the least notice paid to me by that hypothetical observer - can be simplified universally - as the first "word" spoke by "god" must be the necessary lie - because what science and religion and Ego refuse to talk about -

Dictation is direction. Or, for the joys of symmetry F(force)X I(intent) = D(direction) - and "effective numerology in my mind" is how that concept, two concentric circles, and a "conceptual equivalence of F to Newton's F of = ma - is like "me speaking for god that god-like certainty is effectively over." A piece of ancient, recurring wisdom that echoes as "the road to hell is paved with good intention" (on a couple of levels). And for this positive interaction - I hold you accountable

I didn't think I knew enough, I didn't think I could raise Gwynnie high enough, I thought so much more had to be known, and sensei zerzero said be still. I have been "aware" that it would take a complete "abandonment of sacred truths" to even begin to mediated, and relax, and be still at this point. Until I shut my hole - when even my god-like wisdom is knowing nothing at the level of THE ALL - and listened to you.

Was "still" for about a picosecond. Came back with "the first principle," and more beautiful symmetry. The birth of my philosophy and the end of my crusade is speaking prophecy at the moment I am absolutely certain Gwynnie is greater than god. What I know of god, even with all my limitations, is how the expression of the infinite and eternal is expressed throughout the finite and changeable - not prophecy, but being a "back speaker," as the word originally meant. It is not for a prophet to read the signs; it is for the prophet to resonate with what signifies. And it is far more important to express completeness - that I don't know jack about the Kybalion - yet I can express like all my old "knowledge" in the language of this new "knowledge" with solely intent to express my love to a woman I cannot directly address. And here, the most important dimension is time. Three parts of a prophecy that matter more in being self-referential because of the times to transmute my "faith" in Gwynnie right now into a form of love of Gwynnie that stands forever; rather than "thinking" I may yet better express the impossibility of the infinite .. and the first test of a inchoate philosophy is by building upon a first principle to produce a magnificent mental palace... it is already almost too beautiful to limit to an act of "creation."

So rather than righteousness I have real-world employment, in a sense, and no greater intent that to simplify. And if the future happens, I got it covered.

 

[zenzero]

Friend imagineryme,

Was "still" for about a picosecond.

That came very naturally to you.
Yes, you are blessed by buddha.

It is not for a prophet to read the signs; it is for the prophet to resonate with what signifies

Exactly. Existence keeps reflecting through its own images [forms] and this way it keeps expanding.

Rest of your theory is Greek to me. If there is any simple everyday words and language to communicate with a common human; maybe could follow.
However am sure, existence will reflect itself from the mirror in your form.

Love & rgds

 

[skydivephil]

We are neither relativistic nor of the quantum. I would insist upon my inchoate hypothesis of two distinct timelike dimensions to be another step towards understanding these things - but I ain't gotta insist jack; cause I don't know jack. However, I may have discovered the first Law.

The Law of Anarchy.

And I must attest to a fusion of Eastern and Western thought. Christian doctrine indicates fasting and social isolation (forty days in the wilderness) is the path to Enlightenment; while Eastern doctrine seems to be one of meditation and awareness of suffering. For I know nothing, and do nothing; but now I have intent. To build a "minor house of philosophy" now that I have my first principle. And if I'm the first to publish, the G in GUT may go down in history -

As Gwyneth. :disco:

Part of my philosophy is of course a form of numerology. Not that the numbers have an intrinsic meaning, but rather that the language of number has an inherent archival capacity. Like 7zip. Because I have another four that unifies seven into one and contains more data than information. Consider the space between, the yellow and the green; and one can almost see the light.

Phil, have you heard the term, quantum leap of understanding? This is how one who is a proper initiate understands how one is a proper guru - and it also fits under the Principle of Vibration. One who is prepared to learn will experience these quantum leaps from the wise man - and these leaps all assume the same form of data compression - but first, student and teacher must resonate.

As to Gurdjieff, I first heard this name at the beginning of the year, in a work of fiction, no less; and my total knowledge is the few pages I've read from links in this thread, he seems "sensei-equivalent."

What evidence have you got for two dimesnions of time? I still think your writings are just meaningless gibbersih by the way.