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The Private World Of Donald Trump, And Reality

Skwim

Veteran Member
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For the source of his following remarks and more click on the link below and select the appropriate statement




Donald Trump
July 9th, 2018
"I have watched ICE liberate towns from the grasp of MS-13." NO EVIDENCE

Donald Trump July 2nd, 2018
"Watch those GDP numbers. We started off at a very low number,
and right now we hit a 3.2 (percent). Nobody thought that was possible
." CONFUSES MONTHLY GROWTH FOR YEARLY

Donald Trump July 2nd, 2018
"The European Union … they send us Mercedes, they send us -- by the
millions -- the BMWs -- cars by the millions.
" IGNORES FACT THAT MANY GERMAN CARS ARE BUILT IN THE USA

Donald Trump
June 18th, 2018
"Crime in Germany is way up." CRIME IS LOWEST IN 30 YEARS

Donald Trump
June 5th, 2018
Philadelphia Eagles players stayed "in the Locker Room for the playing
of our our National Anthem" or were "kneeling.
" NO, THE EAGLES DID NOT KNEEL

Donald Trump May 31st, 2018
"We got $6 billion for opioid and getting rid of that scourge that’s taking
over our country. And the numbers are way down
." DEATHS ARE UP

Donald Trump
May 30th, 2018
Speaking of immigration cases, says, "We have thousands of judges." THERE ARE FEWER THAN 400 IMMIGRATION JUDGES

Donald Trump
May 29th, 2018
A "horrible law" requires that children be separated from their parents
"once they cross the Border into the U.S.
" TRUMP'S OWN POLICY

Donald Trump May 24th, 2018
Says "Nancy Pelosi came out in favor of MS-13." SHE DID NOT SPECIFY MS-13

Donald Trump May 23rd, 2018
Says James Clapper said "that the FBI was spying on (Trump's) campaign." HE SAID THE TARGET WAS RUSSIA, NOT THE CAMPAIGN

Donald Trump April 22nd, 2018
Says North Korea has "agreed to denuclearization." THEY HAVEN'T AGREED YET

Donald Trump April 2nd, 2018
"Only fools, or worse, are saying that our money losing Post Office makes
money with Amazon. THEY LOSE A FORTUNE, and this will be changed.
" PROFITS ARE IN THE BILLIONS

Donald Trump March 1st, 2018
"You take Pulse nightclub. If you had one person in that room that
could carry a gun and knew how to use it, it wouldn’t have happened,
or certainly to the extent that it did."
THERE WAS AN ARMED GUARD PRESENT

Donald Trump January 3rd, 2018
The Senate seat won in a special election by a Democrat had been
"held for more than thirty years by Republicans."
IT WAS ACTUALLY 21 YEARS

Donald Trump January 2nd, 2018
Said Dianne Feinstein said "there is no collusion" between the Trump
campaign and Russia.
FEINSTEIN SAID COLLUSION WAS "OPEN TO QUESTION"

Donald Trump December 21st, 2017
"We essentially repealed Obamacare because we got rid of the individual
mandate ... and that was a primary source of funding of Obamacare."
WRONG ON BOTH ACCOUNTS

Donald Trump December 15th, 2017
Missouri is one of "13 states this year have seen unemployment
drop to the lowest levels in the history of their state."
NOT ON THE LIST

Donald Trump December 11th, 2017
"Black homeownership just hit the highest level it has ever been in the
history of our country."
IT'S FALLEN ALMOST YEARLY SINCE 2004

Donald Trump December 5th, 2017
"Hillary Clinton lied many times to the FBI." COMEY SAYS SHE DIDN'T LIE

Donald Trump October 18th, 2017
"We're the highest developed nation taxed in the world." A MENTAL BLOCK?

Link Below

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Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
The Toronto Star newspaper just today published an analysis of every claim, counting all the words and all the lies, from the time Trump took office until July 1, 2018. And what did they find?

Astonishingly, over all that verbiage, Trump has included one false word in every 19.4 words...he can't get 20 words out in a row, it would seem, without lying! To me, this is utterly astonishing.
https://www.pressreader.com/canada/toronto-star/20180714/281517931892257
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
People do realize you can make a list on almost any politician with the same theme that they are misinformed or whatever.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
People do realize you can make a list on almost any politician with the same theme that they are misinformed or whatever.
He's in a class by himself. Utterly and totally in a class by himself. And he's getting worse all the time including calling fake news something he himself said and which was recorded.

What I found interesting and think is accurate is this analysis about why he's lying more and more https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opini...ng-worse-psychology-suggests-there-ncna876486
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
People do realize you can make a list on almost any politician with the same theme that they are misinformed or whatever.
No doubt, but it certainly seems to me, at least, that in my 7 decades I have never, ever heard one quite so misinformed, or one completely willing to deliberately lie, even when he knows perfectly well that he is lying.

For what it's worth, this Trump is a new kind of beast, one that reasonable voters would never, ever, have tolerated in the past.

So okay, maybe it's not Trump. Maybe human beings in general are getting stupider and meaner. You decide which theory you prefer, the liar, or the stupid and ugly hearers.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
People do realize you can make a list on almost any politician with the same theme that they are misinformed or whatever.
So it’s okay that Trump lies every other sentence because everybody lies every now and again? Trump holds some sort of record on being “misinformed” and stating alternative facts as truth.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
So it’s okay that Trump lies every other sentence because everybody lies every now and again? Trump holds some sort of record on being “misinformed” and stating alternative facts as truth.
It has to be okay with people. There's no accountability in politics for lying so it doesn't give them any incentive not do so. I think all politicians are roughly the same in that respect that they lie on a regular basis. I don't care what party either. They pretty much all do it.
 

Avoice1C

the means are the ends
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For the source of his following remarks click on the link below and select the appropriate statement




Donald Trump
July 2nd, 2018
"Watch those GDP numbers. We started off at a very low number,
and right now we hit a 3.2 (percent). Nobody thought that was possible
." CONFUSES MONTHLY GROWTH FOR YEARLY
Trump made no note of a time frame by your own quote.





Donald Trump
A "horrible law" requires that children be separated from their parents
"once they cross the Border into the U.S.
" TRUMP'S OWN POLICY
Obama's policy Trump merely let the Boarder Patrol and ICE do their job and he's making sure the separations are not long though some bumps along the way to doing that.
Donald Trump
Says "Nancy Pelosi came out in favor of MS-13." SHE DID NOT SPECIFY MS-13
She was responding to Trump who did specify ML-13.
Donald Trump
May 23rd, 2018
Says James Clapper said "that the FBI was spying on (Trump's) campaign." HE SAID THE TARGET WAS RUSSIA, NOT THE CAMPAIGN
Yea he investigated the Russians through the Trump campaign.
Donald Trump
April 22nd, 2018
Says North Korea has "agreed to denuclearization." THEY HAVEN'T AGREED YET
Trump said it was in the first line of the agreement Kim and Trump signed.
Donald Trump
April 2nd, 2018
"Only fools, or worse, are saying that our money losing Post Office makes
money with Amazon. THEY LOSE A FORTUNE, and this will be changed.
" PROFITS ARE IN THE BILLIONS
They are still in arrears.
Donald Trump
March 1st, 2018
"You take Pulse nightclub. If you had one person in that room that
could carry a gun and knew how to use it, it wouldn’t have happened,
or certainly to the extent that it did."
THERE WAS AN ARMED GUARD PRESENT
What was the guard doing or was he the first one shot? Trump was talking about an attendee.

Donald Trump
January 2nd, 2018
Said Dianne Feinstein said "there is no collusion" between the Trump
campaign and Russia.
FEINSTEIN SAID COLLUSION WAS "OPEN TO QUESTION"
Which means no collusion, which is not a crime, could be proven.

Donald Trump
December 15th, 2017
Missouri is one of "13 states this year have seen unemployment
drop to the lowest levels in the history of their state."
NOT ON THE LIST
So what?
Donald Trump
December 11th, 2017
"Black homeownership just hit the highest level it has ever been in the
history of our country."
IT'S FALLEN ALMOST YEARLY SINCE 2004
What's it been doing the last year or so?
Donald Trump
December 5th, 2017
"Hillary Clinton lied many times to the FBI." COMEY SAYS SHE DIDN'T LIE

Link Below

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HC had underlings destroy evidence, Say HC had none and the like.

I answered what I feel comfortable answering
 
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Ellen Brown

Well-Known Member
The Toronto Star newspaper just today published an analysis of every claim, counting all the words and all the lies, from the time Trump took office until July 1, 2018. And what did they find?

Astonishingly, over all that verbiage, Trump has included one false word in every 19.4 words...he can't get 20 words out in a row, it would seem, without lying! To me, this is utterly astonishing.
https://www.pressreader.com/canada/toronto-star/20180714/281517931892257


And yet the world has great disdain for him, we do nothing. Will he take over the world because he bored us into a coma?
 

Phantasman

Well-Known Member
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For the source of his following remarks click on the link below and select the appropriate statement




Donald Trump
July 9th, 2018
"I have watched ICE liberate towns from the grasp of MS-13." NO EVIDENCE

Donald Trump July 2nd, 2018
"Watch those GDP numbers. We started off at a very low number,
and right now we hit a 3.2 (percent). Nobody thought that was possible
." CONFUSES MONTHLY GROWTH FOR YEARLY

Donald Trump July 2nd, 2018
"The European Union … they send us Mercedes, they send us -- by the
millions -- the BMWs -- cars by the millions.
" IGNORES FACT THAT MANY GERMAN CARS ARE BUILT IN THE USA

Donald Trump
June 18th, 2018
"Crime in Germany is way up." CRIME IS LOWEST IN 30 YEARS

Donald Trump
June 5th, 2018
Philadelphia Eagles players stayed "in the Locker Room for the playing
of our our National Anthem" or were "kneeling.
" NO, THE EAGLES DID NOT KNEEL

Donald Trump May 31st, 2018
"We got $6 billion for opioid and getting rid of that scourge that’s taking
over our country. And the numbers are way down
." DEATHS ARE UP

Donald Trump
May 30th, 2018
Speaking of immigration cases, says, "We have thousands of judges." THERE ARE FEWER THAN 400 IMMIGRATION JUDGES

Donald Trump
May 29th, 2018
A "horrible law" requires that children be separated from their parents
"once they cross the Border into the U.S.
" TRUMP'S OWN POLICY

Donald Trump May 24th, 2018
Says "Nancy Pelosi came out in favor of MS-13." SHE DID NOT SPECIFY MS-13

Donald Trump May 23rd, 2018
Says James Clapper said "that the FBI was spying on (Trump's) campaign." HE SAID THE TARGET WAS RUSSIA, NOT THE CAMPAIGN

Donald Trump April 22nd, 2018
Says North Korea has "agreed to denuclearization." THEY HAVEN'T AGREED YET

Donald Trump April 2nd, 2018
"Only fools, or worse, are saying that our money losing Post Office makes
money with Amazon. THEY LOSE A FORTUNE, and this will be changed.
" PROFITS ARE IN THE BILLIONS

Donald Trump March 1st, 2018
"You take Pulse nightclub. If you had one person in that room that
could carry a gun and knew how to use it, it wouldn’t have happened,
or certainly to the extent that it did."
THERE WAS AN ARMED GUARD PRESENT

Donald Trump January 3rd, 2018
The Senate seat won in a special election by a Democrat had been
"held for more than thirty years by Republicans."
IT WAS ACTUALLY 21 YEARS

Donald Trump January 2nd, 2018
Said Dianne Feinstein said "there is no collusion" between the Trump
campaign and Russia.
FEINSTEIN SAID COLLUSION WAS "OPEN TO QUESTION"

Donald Trump December 21st, 2017
"We essentially repealed Obamacare because we got rid of the individual
mandate ... and that was a primary source of funding of Obamacare."
WRONG ON BOTH ACCOUNTS

Donald Trump December 15th, 2017
Missouri is one of "13 states this year have seen unemployment
drop to the lowest levels in the history of their state."
NOT ON THE LIST

Donald Trump December 11th, 2017
"Black homeownership just hit the highest level it has ever been in the
history of our country."
IT'S FALLEN ALMOST YEARLY SINCE 2004

Donald Trump December 5th, 2017
"Hillary Clinton lied many times to the FBI." COMEY SAYS SHE DIDN'T LIE

Donald Trump October 18th, 2017
"We're the highest developed nation taxed in the world." A MENTAL BLOCK?

Link Below

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I guess I COULD comment on the comments of the comments. But won't waste the time.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
I guess I COULD comment on the comments of the comments. But won't waste the time.
And neither will I. When right out of the gate someone shows she never read what she should have read she doesn't deserve anyone's time.

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idav

Being
Premium Member
It has to be okay with people. There's no accountability in politics for lying so it doesn't give them any incentive not do so. I think all politicians are roughly the same in that respect that they lie on a regular basis. I don't care what party either. They pretty much all do it.
It does not have to be ok with people or our allies. They dont get votes if the next time if they anger thr masses too much. And no Trump is not just some average liar he is pathological. You want to look at a pretty truthful president you only neeed to look at our previous president. Of course Obama was embroiled in a record amount of lawsuits, sexual assault charges, shady campaign associates, bearing false witness, adultery, tax issues and ..... Oh wait that's Trump.
 

Skipper

Wrong is wrong,/ Make America moral again.
The GOP and his 'christian' supporters [note the uncapitalized 'c'] have no leg to stand on when it comes to issues of morality. They have abandoned every moral stance that Christ ever spoke of or taught. The harm they have done to the message of Christ is immeasurable.
 
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tytlyf

Not Religious
It has to be okay with people. There's no accountability in politics for lying so it doesn't give them any incentive not do so. I think all politicians are roughly the same in that respect that they lie on a regular basis. I don't care what party either. They pretty much all do it.
Trump golfs more than Obama and lies more than Obama. But it's OK because everyone does it?

False equivalence.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
This is a good example of a problem of our zeitgeist. Different people can interpret the same facts differently. That doesn’t make the others “liars”.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
This is a good example of a problem of our zeitgeist. Different people can interpret the same facts differently. That doesn’t make the others “liars”.
Facts can't be interpreted differently. Facts are demonstrable, see OP.

Only those living in ignorant bliss can interpret a 'fact' as 'fiction.'
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Facts can't be interpreted differently. Facts are demonstrable, see OP.

Only those living in ignorant bliss can interpret a 'fact' as 'fiction.'
Of course facts can be interpreted differently. You are conflating fact validation and interpretation. No wonder you are so confused that you think you can know what other people think. cause you can read minds too.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
Of course facts can be interpreted differently. You are conflating fact validation and interpretation. No wonder you are so confused that you think you can know what other people think. cause you can read minds too.
Nope. Facts have no bias. Evidence and facts are demonstrable and not up for discussion.

I bet you think Climate change is a hoax. The overwhelming facts and evidence show a single conclusion. You're going to tell me that these facts/evidence are up for debate? What reasoning would be behind someone who goes against the overwhelming global evidence?

I'm not interested in alternative facts. I know Tea Party supporters are.
 
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