The problem is evil solved?

[Ignatius A]

The presence of evil is a stumbling block to belief for some people because they believe God created evil. What if evil doesnt actually exist? In science temperature measures the presence of heat and the concept of cold is just what we call the absence of heat. Cold doesnt exist is just a state of no heat. Same with evil. Evil is just a concept that we use the describe the state of being absent from God.

 

[Jimmy]

The presence of evil is a stumbling block to belief for some people because they believe God created evil. What if evil doesnt actually exist? In science temperature measures the presence of heat and the concept of cold is just what we call the absence of heat. Cold doesnt exist is just a state of no heat. Same with evil. Evil is just a concept that we use the describe the state of being absent from God.

As long as men breathe evil will exist. Look at Jefferey Dahmer

 

[Ignatius A]

As long as men breathe evil will exist. Look at Jefferey Dahmer

Not at all inconsistent with what I said. Lack of heat is cold and lack of God is evil.

 

[loverofhumanity]

The presence of evil is a stumbling block to belief for some people because they believe God created evil. What if evil doesnt actually exist? In science temperature measures the presence of heat and the concept of cold is just what we call the absence of heat. Cold doesnt exist is just a state of no heat. Same with evil. Evil is just a concept that we use the describe the state of being absent from God.

I believe article reflects a lot of what you are saying.

The Nonexistence of Evil

The website of the worldwide Bahá’í community

www.bahai.org

 

[ChristineM]

Same with evil. Evil is just a concept that we use the describe the state of being absent from God.

Evil, profoundly immoral and wicked.

There are many people who have no god who are certainly not immoral and wicked.

 

[Ignatius A]

Evil, profoundly immoral and wicked.

There are many people who have no god who are certainly not immoral and wicked.

Ok

I made no claims about people who have no God. This thread is about the presence of evil not people who have no God. I hope you can distinguish the difference and stay on topic.

 

[Alien826]

The presence of evil is a stumbling block to belief for some people because they believe God created evil. What if evil doesnt actually exist? In science temperature measures the presence of heat and the concept of cold is just what we call the absence of heat. Cold doesnt exist is just a state of no heat. Same with evil. Evil is just a concept that we use the describe the state of being absent from God.

Extreme cold can do harm just as extreme heat can. I don't think it matters whether we call it "cold" or "negative heat", it's still harmful, just as "evil" is.

What you say raises a question though. Why is God absent? His choice, surely?

 

[Link]

I don't think suffering is mere absence of joy and peace.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

The presence of evil is a stumbling block to belief for some people because they believe God created evil. What if evil doesnt actually exist? In science temperature measures the presence of heat and the concept of cold is just what we call the absence of heat. Cold doesnt exist is just a state of no heat. Same with evil. Evil is just a concept that we use the describe the state of being absent from God.

This does not solve anything in my opinion. Children are still raped, people still starve to death etc. If you are saying that is not evil just a lack of god's presence then it is still god's responsibility. Why isn't he there to stop these terrible things?

 

[Ignatius A]

Extreme cold can do harm just as extreme heat can. I don't think it matters whether we call it "cold" or "negative heat", it's still harmful, just as "evil" is.

What you say raises a question though. Why is God absent? His choice, surely?

It does matter because temperature is related to heat. It has nothing to do with cold. Cold isn't a thing it's merely what we call the absence of heat.

Not not his choice at all. People have free will.

 

[Ignatius A]

I don't think suffering is mere absence of joy and peace.

Who said suffering besides you? I'm STILL fascinated as to why people respond to what's in their heads rather than what's written.

 

[Link]

Who said suffering besides you? I'm STILL fascinated as to why people respond to what's in their heads rather than what's written.

Evil in the context of problem of evil refers to evil in the sense of suffering. Evil doesn't mean in that argument moral evil.

 

[Ignatius A]

This does not solve anything in my opinion. Children are still raped, people still starve to death etc. If you are saying that is not evil just a lack of god's presence then it is still god's responsibility. Why isn't he there to stop these terrible things?

Show where I said it's not evil. Its a frustrating thing to deal with what you think was said rather than what was actually said.

 

[Ignatius A]

Evil in the context of problem of evil refers to evil in the sense of suffering. Evil doesn't mean in that argument moral evil.

Not all evil is suffering. Suffering may be a by product of evil but it's not necessarily suffering.

 

[Link]

Show where I said it's not evil. Its a frustrating thing to deal with what you think was said rather than what was actually said.

I think you never read the original arguments from evil.

 

[Link]

Not all evil is suffering.

Yes, but the term "evil" means harm, sufferings, pain, evil in that sense, not in the moral sense in the argument from evil.

 

[Ignatius A]

I think you never read the original arguments from evil.

That's what you think and you're entitled to your thoughts but remember your thoughts don't create reality.

 

[Link]

That's what you think and you're entitled to your thoughts but remember your thoughts don't create reality.

If you read the originals, usually, in the introduction, they explain the term evil to not mean moral evil.

 

[Ignatius A]

I think you never read the original arguments from evil.

That's what you think and you're entitled to your thoughts but remember your thoughts don't create reality.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Show where I said it's not evil. Its a frustrating thing to deal with what you think was said rather than what was actually said.

You said what if evil does not exist. I was responding that statement and idea. I never said you don't think those things are not evil.

Discussion is needed to clarify each others statements to be understood, no ill will is intended. That is the nature of discussion.