The purpose in life

[I.S.L.A.M617]

Maybe what I've explained could be our collective goals, and thus would mean to create purpose? As I have said, we create our own meanings (which can be synonymous with purposes).

At that point it's a semantic difference and we're using different words to describe the same thing. When I hear "purpose" I think "the reason we exist". I don't think humanity exists for any reason, and the best thing any individual can accomplish in their lifetime is the realization of their personal goals. I'm not so much concerned with what the rest of the world wishes to accomplish.

 

[SheikhHorusFromTheSky]

At that point it's a semantic difference and we're using different words to describe the same thing. When I hear "purpose" I think "the reason we exist". I don't think humanity exists for any reason, and the best thing any individual can accomplish in their lifetime is the realization of their personal goals. I'm not so much concerned with what the rest of the world wishes to accomplish.

I see.

 

[Pegg]

I don't know all of the answers and I shouldn't be the only one to find them. Not being angry, but maybe you should try to look into Metaphysics/Ontology to figure that one out.

thats precisely why i do believe in a creator

 

[nash8]

My ultimate purpose in life is to fornicate with everyones mother.

Other than that, their are so many purposes in life. I see no one as being any more important than another

 

[steeltoes]

Purpose is merely a human concept invented to make sense of things. There is no inherent purpose, to each his/her own.

 

[Monk Of Reason]

Like I said, we create our own meanings. This in itself is a collective goal, so thus technically it could mean purpose.

I am confused as to where you are going with this. I think we may be on the same page but then again I may be wrong. My stance is that purpose only exists as a concept that we have created and is in no way innate prior to ourselves

 

[Straw Dog]

I believe that there are manifold purposes being pursued by billions of different life forms simultaneously within any given moment. Once in a blue moon, common purposes align.

 

[Aquitaine]

Not really, as I come from an Atheistic Existentialist point of view. Oh, and the 5% idea that we are our own Masters.

5% idea?

 

[SheikhHorusFromTheSky]

I am confused as to where you are going with this. I think we may be on the same page but then again I may be wrong. My stance is that purpose only exists as a concept that we have created and is in no way innate prior to ourselves

What I'm saying is that yes, we create our own meanings and purposes. Our goals (whether people do it intentionally or unintentionally) is to expand our horizons on a subject there is in existence. It could mean that there is a purpose, but there's also people that don't want to do use their will.

 

[SheikhHorusFromTheSky]

5% idea?

Nation of Gods and Earths. Search it.

 

[Monk Of Reason]

What I'm saying is that yes, we create our own meanings and purposes. Our goals (whether people do it intentionally or unintentionally) is to expand our horizons on a subject there is in existence. It could mean that there is a purpose, but there's also people that don't want to do use their will.

I understand that but I mean are you making the argument that there could be a divine purpose or overlaying innate purpose rather than just the construct of purpose that we have created as humans? Because other than that in the universe there just seems to be causality rather than purpose.

 

[SheikhHorusFromTheSky]

I understand that but I mean are you making the argument that there could be a divine purpose or overlaying innate purpose rather than just the construct of purpose that we have created as humans? Because other than that in the universe there just seems to be causality rather than purpose.

Technically we are divine, so we create our own divine purposes.

 

[nash8]

Technically we are divine, so we create our own divine purposes.

What technically makes us divine?

 

[SheikhHorusFromTheSky]

What technically makes us divine?

The fact that we both create and destroy things. The fact that we expand and contract. The fact that we do both good and evil in this world.

 

[Warren Clark]

For me, the purpose in life is to expand the capabilities of the self and to harness the mind to infinite possibilities. Because of this, we tend to create ourselves (as in Essence, speaking in terms of Existentialism), in order to find meaning in life. We are in fact the creators. Everything is within ourselves, and within us is the mind. We are given the power of the mind to create reality and to expand our horizons.

That being said, there is no such thing as God. There is no such thing as a soul either. No reincarnation. But there is Us, and Us only. Now all of this is Atheistic, but this is in the context of the true purpose of the Occult, which is to Know Thyself, as Occult means hidden in Latin.

Let the debate begin! :clap:clap:clap

whats the debate supposed to be over?

I think life is whatever you make of it.
If you have trouble finding meaning in life, I guess you are stuck with God or just suicidal thoughts.
I mean, I used to be suicidal for a short minute of my life while listening to idiots on a day to day basis.
After surpassing these idiots in education I made it my goal in life in attempting to reduce the number of idiots. So I just provide information.
Unfortunately, only a small number of idiots took the bait and actually helped themselves.
So I now just surround myself with smart people and borderline idiots. I still on occasion provide information to the idiots.
That's my meaning in life anyway...

 

[Aquitaine]

Nation of Gods and Earths. Search it.

Just have, not really my cup of Tea. :no:

 

[SheikhHorusFromTheSky]

whats the debate supposed to be over?

I think life is whatever you make of it.
If you have trouble finding meaning in life, I guess you are stuck with God or just suicidal thoughts.
I mean, I used to be suicidal for a short minute of my life while listening to idiots on a day to day basis.
After surpassing these idiots in education I made it my goal in life in attempting to reduce the number of idiots. So I just provide information.
Unfortunately, only a small number of idiots took the bait and actually helped themselves.
So I now just surround myself with smart people and borderline idiots. I still on occasion provide information to the idiots.
That's my meaning in life anyway...

Maybe at the 100th post I'll stop it.

I agree with you about what you've said about Idiots.

 

[SheikhHorusFromTheSky]

Just have, not really my cup of Tea. :no:

Can you explain why?

 

[InformedIgnorance]

As a conscious entity, I desire my experiences to be pleasant and have the reasonable belief that other conscious entities have a similar desire, though what might be deemed pleasant to them might differ.

I acknowledge that my experiences can be effected by others directly (or indirectly through their effects on the system); and the reverse is also true - which I hope they acknowledge.

Though many others espouse certain beliefs about the nature and purpose of the existence of conscious entities, I acknowledge no supernatural dimension, nor a natural purpose of existence save that of biological predispositions (such as having offspring) that do not equate to the 'purpose' implied by the philosopher. Without such a purpose, I thus consider my possible interactions; I desire a pleasant experience and my potential experiences make my life interdependent with others. As I benefit from others and have thus come to value not just those I interact with, but those they might potentially interact with (until all conscious entities are connected by their ability to effect the experiences of the others), because I have come to value the enrichment that others bring to my own experience of reality: while I am without purpose, I desire to act in such a way as to facilitate the enrichment of my life, the full extent of which is only possible through the enrichment of other people's lives.

I am selfish, and because of this, I desire for other people to be happy and healthy, because that will make my own experience more pleasurable. Hardly the most noble motivation, and indeed it seldom occurs to me when I attempt to help others, but at some level, I simply find other people's happiness to be beneficial to myself as an ends as well as a means.

I see no other esoteric 'purpose'.

 

[Warren Clark]

Maybe at the 100th post I'll stop it.

I agree with you about what you've said about Idiots.

I'm sorry, I think my wording was not it's best.
I meant, what is the debate supposed to cover exactly,
not "when it will be over".