The Qualities of a God

[Evangelicalhumanist]

To be a God is to have omniscient power and authority over its subjects. Whether that power and authority is true, and good or not is irrelevant to the definition.

A true God has all the virtues as attributes without any vices. The will of a true God is only the virtues plus omniscient power and true authority. To imply a true God of all exists is to imply that all living creatures are subject to that God's justice and can stand innocent or be guilty before that God. A true God makes no errors in judgment. A true God is eternal and has complete control over all fates and destinies.

A true God assumes that perfect justice exists, and such God is the master of it. A true God bestows free will upon all its subjects to give them the opportunity to choose between good and evil because God doesn't want robots and false friends. A true God is benevolent.

I suppose a true God would have no limits to their power and can make everyone into people true to that God's will, but I don't think any religion subscribes to that.


I suppose people can make a God or gods of anything or anyone.

Well, whether your definition of "a true God" exists or not, it is abundantly clear that not a single scripture possessed by we humans knows about it.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I see that God is not an object to be worshipped.

God is only known by attributes and it is those attributes we can aspire to, but most importantly practice. We can connect to the source of those attributes, which can become a focal point of worship.

Having a focal point enables is to increase the power of the mind.

Regards Tony

I find it odd that you say that, because I've seen many places (some very beautiful) that are called "Baha'i Houses of Worship."

So if God is not to be worshipped, what exactly are Baha'is worshipping in their houses of worship?

 

[TransmutingSoul]

In Islam, we believe that Allah has names and attributes. In Islam, he has over 99 names and we believe in all of them No other being has all of these qualities but Allah.


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I see that would be the Messengers. As they are the first and the last, so they are one and all, all the names. Who else has shown us God, but the Messengers?

Regards Tony

 

[TransmutingSoul]

I find it odd that you say that, because I've seen many places (some very beautiful) that are called "Baha'i Houses of Worship."

So if God is not to be worshipped, what exactly are Baha'is worshipping in their houses of worship?

I offered God is not an object to worship, not that God is not worshipped.

A house of worship is a focal point that I mentioned, it enables us to focus our mind on the prayer and not on a false perception of God. The Mesengers can also be used as a focal point.

Regards Tony

 

[rational experiences]

A God. Not any status created.

Theme to think. If I was the God what would I do to create?

Answer from my own presence.

Not from my own body otherwise I would no longer self exist.

Human quote. A creator spirit entity had to exist to make a choice to cause change.

Why?

As change is theoried for first before it's caused to a state whole present and exact in presence.

Meaning a scope of three identities exists.

The surrounds with an entity inside it and another identity language.

Theories about not owned.

As humans never owned three only.

The argument.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

God is.

 

[rational experiences]

God isn't.

God owns two concepts theoried by men.

O a planet present is.
O a sun owning light first isn't.

Answer no God in reality.

Answer O earth one day will go cold.
Answer O sun one day light owner will burn out go cold.

Theist coldest is burnt out no light.

Reality empty space coldest no light no burning first lied.

 

[DNB]

I'm pretty sure this is a remix of a thread I created a few years back, but for the life of me cannot find it (not that I spent much time looking).

So here it is...

In another thread, a member asked if one can be a god, or if one can know one is a god.

To answer such a question, one would have to know what qualities or attributes a god would have.

So what are the qualities of a god? What qualifications would one have to have to be considered a god?

A God is transcendent, omniscient, immaterial, and omnipotent. He transcends the secular and the flesh, both in ontology and mind. He cannot succumb to the enticements and depravities that humans do, nor can he be outwitted by a fallible creature - His perception surpasses that of any created being.
But, above all, He is holy - for He cannot create, organize, structure, repair, and be reasonable, if He was corrupt or deranged in any manner - creation and orchestration demands soundness of mind, and evil is the result of ignorance and depravity, and self-annihilation.

 

[firedragon]

Well, whether your definition of "a true God" exists or not, it is abundantly clear that not a single scripture possessed by we humans knows about it.

Have you studied all the scripture and everything they have to say about The GOd? Curious.

 

[rational experiences]

Have you studied all the scripture and everything they have to say about The GOd? Curious.

Two statements.

The human theist talks about nothing. A state no thing implied.
And
Created present god status. O earths it's heavens and his life.

The first two human theories as concepts is by nothing I create by inventive converting of fusion. I own a man's pre want first.

Not stated in the reason to theory.

Secondly God in science isn't any HE.

As he him his is thought by a man's self consciousness implied. His owned body type.

Secondly to know nothing existed you have to be in existence to observe and make the claim.

If a man as he him his is first the scientist. A man.

His machine is not creation and he built.

In thesis created creation his machine doesn't exist. In a theory.

Irrational male self determined I know I am a God man.

Lying.

As created creation was never nothing.

His thesis does not exist first.

When you make a status a man he him his claimed I will change God. It is defined by causes.

Men don't rationally in psyche believe in God says a scientist theist mind as his God reasons in science took any gods as substances then converted them.

Science of man non believer of God. Believes in the power of man's machine inventions only.

His ideal was hot satanisms.

First in creating creation theories as science only. Reactions.

Today by status AI human machine caused machine use by man's design. Hearing loud large volumes voice speaking back. AI took a portion of life's natural water to cool the effect created transmitter was a human teaching.

Learnt.

As his temple mountain transmitters in cloud cooling peaks did not keep cooled at ground mass converting science he performed as alchemy melt converting.

Light constant direct thesis man of science burning ground mass only himself.

Hence he learnt to apply the reaction cooled by past causes. Machine status on ground to react only inside the machine.

As outside it was not cold enough. Transmitters he used in man's science.

That lesson was the UFO hitting melting his Ararat temple.

Reason empty cold nothing space coldest place first owned burning upper atmospheric gases itself.

Making nothing heated naturally in upper heavens.

Coldest position bio ground life.

Theist today knows. Uses exact same mind human advice. Does the comparisons by I want. Not I need or I should.

The advice says you should not.

I want superseded reality of natural life.

As our human father's voice is recorded as is our mothers in AI it proves he thinks gods are talking to him as sexual identities by voice.

Sexuality is personally biologically owned only.

 

[PureX]

If your view of what "God" is doesn't work for the largest religion on Earth, this is a pretty good sign you're off-base.

It's probably a bad idea to ask those people to define God for you, then, because they are clearly confused as to what it means to be God, and to be human. In their minds, 'magic' somehow overcomes the logical contradiction of presuming that Jesus was fully both. You can argue with me about this all you want, but in the end you aren't going to get a logical answer out of them, because they're ignoring the illogical contradictions that they've accepted as truth. So, good luck with it.

 

[PureX]

Could be. But many believe He was. And that He was human. Ergo, your claim that a human cannot be a god might not be shared among all theists.

Ciao

- viole

It's probably better to ask people who THINK, rather than people who believe without thinking. But that's up to you.

 

[PureX]

That's one of the main qualities of every other living species on earth.

And "God" transcends all of them. At least by most people's definition.

 

[viole]

It's probably better to ask people who THINK, rather than people who believe without thinking. But that's up to you.

I cannot possibly ask atheists about the subject.

Ciao

- viole

 

[Clara Tea]

I'm pretty sure this is a remix of a thread I created a few years back, but for the life of me cannot find it (not that I spent much time looking).

...what are the qualities of a god? What qualifications would one have to have to be considered a god?

Has anyone entertained the notion that we are all Gods but don't know it? Or, perhaps our souls are a tiny piece of God that goes through the test of life to determine that good goes to heaven (to become a part of God again) and bad goes to hell?

If so, maybe I want to see 6 particular numbers picked on the lotto, but someone else (also a God) wants different numbers picked. The consequence of a planet full of Gods with cross-wishes, would be cancellation of everyone's wish (which is, of course, reality). Perhaps when our collective wills all pull the same way we get what we wish for?

That might explain why many suffer and don't get their wishes. It makes no sense to believe that God is a loving entity that is always there to help and always aware of our distress and does nothing about it.

 

[Clara Tea]

By nearly every definition of a god ever devised, a human cannot be a god. There have been many that presumed themselves to be gods and made others play along with it on pain of death. But in the end no one ever really believed them.

On the ether hand, we humans tend to endow people, places, and things with god-like powers even though they don't and shouldn't have them. We are programmed to establish and follow heirarchy, and will tend to do so blindly and automatically. Making whomever sits at the top of the heirarchy the equivalent of a god.

Emperor Hirohito was thought to be descended from the sun. ("My son the doctor" is a common statement....in this case, it's "my son the sun)."

Hirohito seemed like an amiable man. He even donated a Japanese cherry orchard to various organizations. Yet, what did he do about WWII? Torture camps in Germany and the killing of 6 million Jews? The take over by armed aggression of peaceful nations? Was the sun God powerless to stop men? Was the sun God powerless to speak up? Or, contrary to Hirohito's post-war statements, was he implicated in Axis activities?

Some men are born to be called God-kings. Many Egyptians of antiquity held such titles. Yet, their awesome power was weilded by politics, wealth, inherited title, and just plain fear (and lots of it).

On the other hand, why couldn't a human be a God? Jesus was thought to be a God by some. On the other hand, there are many Christians who believe that Jesus was the son of God and Mary, and only God is God.

 

[Clara Tea]

Literally? I think that is more of a lust than a worship.

I wonder if anyone worships? God said "thou shalt not kill" and notice all of the wars. If they truly worshipped, they would obey.

Let me emphasize that I am not picking on the Christian religion. That's fine, the precepts work (such as borrowing the old testament "thou shalt not kill" commandment). Yet, few practice Christianity. To do so, they'd have to behave like Jesus. Jesus would not kill.

If you know what the bible says, and know what God wants, then openly defy God (for whatever reason....lets say a terrorist attack), you cannot call yourself a Christian.

But, what if you are a Christian for years, and stray only occasionally (hey, we're all just human)? Wouldn't that qualify for being Christian? No....I don't think so. It takes only one murder to make a person a murderer. One stray mistake can ruin a lifetime of piety.

 

[Clara Tea]

Its a good thread, but the problem is it is starting from the wrong end. I hope you understand.

Instead you should look for answers to questions like "is there a creator", then move on to "why", and then "is there one or two or a 100", then for qualifications. This is way to post hoc.

But its an interesting thread.

Sometimes answers are easy, but finding the right question is hard.

If we arrive at a conclusion, it might be a good idea to then step back to the original question and see if there are any alternatives of logic to find a different conclusion or question.

 

[Clara Tea]

Its a good thread, but the problem is it is starting from the wrong end. I hope you understand.

Instead you should look for answers to questions like "is there a creator", then move on to "why", and then "is there one or two or a 100", then for qualifications. This is way to post hoc.

But its an interesting thread.

Perhaps recognizing the attributes of a God is not as important as recognizing Satan? I believe that a lot of pious people follow Satan and don't even know it. Remember, Satan poses as God or God's helper. Satan pretends that He (Satan) is fighting evil, though some think that he is evil.

 

[Clara Tea]

I find it odd that you say that, because I've seen many places (some very beautiful) that are called "Baha'i Houses of Worship."

So if God is not to be worshipped, what exactly are Baha'is worshipping in their houses of worship?

Judging from the gentle demeanor of the Baha'is that I know, I'd say that they worship peace and other precepts (among other things).