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The Real Reason Trump Won

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
So, no answer despite your earlier statement that you answered?

If a woman wants an abortion, there's a huge chance that not getting one will harm her. Depression, suicide, poverty, loss of opportunity, and a million more things will land on her. The child, too, gets a wonderful life. Drunk poor mommy doesn't love it, in fact resents it's existence, so it's bound to grow up to be a wonderful member of society.

In the Freakanomics books, it was pointed out that the violent crime rate in the US began to spike in the 1980s. There was a genuine concern that the world was going to soon see essentially super-criminals. Remember all the apocalyptic movies in the 80s like The Warriors, and Escape from New York? They were spawned by that movement toward more and more criminals. And then, in the early 90s, the crime rate dropped way down in a very short amount of time. The reason? The unwanted, unloved children I posited above stopped being born because Roe vs. Wade gave moms who didn't want to be moms a way to get out. Horrifying damaged people who learned to hate from parents who didn't want them started to disappear, making society itself safer. Everyone, every single member of society, has a better world when abortion is available. The largest benefactor? The mom-who-ain't-a-mom-type. Why would anyone wish that kind of existence on anyone else?

So, as to my original point, forcing my mother to harm herself, regardless of the mechanism, is evil, plain and simple. A person who would doom this women to a life she doesn't want, and a child who will grow up poor, and more likely to fail at life than a child who is wanted, is a person who is acting on bad information.

If a woman, any woman, wants an abortion, she should have that option available to her, both for her own good, and the good of a child who's life will be brutishly difficult and come to no good.
I already gave my answer. Not doing so again, and certainly not under these conditions. And you don't know why the crime rate in the 1990s began dropping. Your hypothesis is full of holes. For instance, your hypothesis doesn't explain the falling crime rates in countries around the world during the same time period, which had no association with abortion or its measures.

I'm sure glad my mother, who was mentally ill, chose life for me instead of abortion.
 
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We Never Know

No Slack
Yeah, oil production UNDER Biden. It doesn't say presidents cause the production levels. As I said, the only thing a president can do is release oil from the reserves, which will only have a small impact on the cost of gas. There can be gas taxes adjusted to lower the consumer price, but production is largely on oil companies, demand, and global stability.
So its click bait. The title clearly says..
"Joe Biden Is Producing More Oil Than Donald Trump Did"
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Oh I agree but I am not going there.
I understand why you wouldn't, because it would highlight just how irrational and cruel your position is.

It's bad enough to want to deprive people of their rights to accomplish your goals, but depriving people of their rights isn't even necessary to accomplish your goal!

It's not a conflict between the "right to life" for fetuses and the right to bodily autonomy; it's a conflict between bodily autonomy and... what? You tell me.

I remember you saying something a while back about you being okay with measures to reduce unwanted pregnancies "as long as your taxes don't go up." Is money the thing on the other side of the balance for you?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It's impossible to say exactly what Roe v. Wade's impact was.
No, fans of the Freakonomics podcast know that it is more than
just possible....the ruling reduced crime.
Extensive research & analysis by economists Donohue and Levitt
turned up an unexpected finding, ie, Roe v Wade resulted in a
reduction in crime about 2 decades after the decision.
(This made people from left & right really angry at them.)
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
So its click bait. The title clearly says..
"Joe Biden Is Producing More Oil Than Donald Trump Did"
So?

It's as if you really, really take it literally and believe that Joe Biden and Donny Trump are oil barrons and they are competing to be the biggest oil cat in the USA. I wouldn't be surprised if you actually believed that.

But in reality it is referring to oil companies producing oil in the USA via their own decision making, much of which reacts to global pressures.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
So?

It's as if you really, really take it literally and believe that Joe Biden and Donny Trump are oil barrons and they are competing to be the biggest oil cat in the USA. I wouldn't be surprised if you actually believed that.

But in reality it is referring to oil companies producing oil in the USA via their own decision making, much of which reacts to global pressures.

Here is the deal sport.

They posted a link that says "Joe Biden Is Producing More Oil Than Donald Trump Did"

I replied with "Is this where I am supposed to say he is riding on what Trump started"

You bounce in harping about it wasn't Trump but never said anything about "it isn't Biden".

You wouldn't even admit that title was click bait and wrong because Biden isn't producing oil.

Your bias shows so bad and runs so deep its laughable.

So one more time... was that article title not only click bait but also wrong?
 

We Never Know

No Slack
So?

It's as if you really, really take it literally and believe that Joe Biden and Donny Trump are oil barrons and they are competing to be the biggest oil cat in the USA. I wouldn't be surprised if you actually believed that.

But in reality it is referring to oil companies producing oil in the USA via their own decision making, much of which reacts to global pressures.

And to answer your other part. No one assumed or insinuated Trump or Biden are oil barons or oil drillers. Only an idiot would think that or get that out of it.

I will leave it at that.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Right wing media dominance.

https://newrepublic.com/maz/post/188197/trump-media-information-landscape-fox

"Today, the right-wing media—Fox News (and the entire News Corp.), Newsmax, One America News Network, the Sinclair network of radio and TV stations and newspapers, iHeart Media (formerly Clear Channel), the Bott Radio Network (Christian radio), Elon Musk’s X, the huge podcasts like Joe Rogan’s, and much more—sets the news agenda in this country. And they fed their audiences a diet of slanted and distorted information that made it possible for Trump to win."

What do you think? Legitimate analysis? Or liberal hogwash?
Not legitamate.

First, the pushed out Biden. Second, they mushed in Kamala with no real election. Thirst, there was no real separation or difference between Biden’s policies and Kamala’s policies. Last, people got tired of the extreme left views and the lies that were being given as truth IMV
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Oil production was & is higher during Biden's term than
during Trump's. I don't think this is a good thing.
It is what it is. He trumpets that he'll fix a problem that
isn't a problem. And the Magas lap it up without question.
 
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