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The real reason Trumps interview with the NABJ had to be delayed nearly 40 minutes.

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
No but between Trump and anyone,probably even putin, rump is more likely to be the liar. Sorry to burst your balloon.
Mr. Lemon provided no prove whatsoever of this supposed issue. And there is ample evidence that it didn't come up.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
You think Trump never lies?

Yes, between the two of them, I am sure Trump is the one who is lying. And I don't even know anything about Ken Lemon. (except that he is not related to Don Lemon, I asked)
Let's consider some FACTS.

The NABJ invited Trump ahead of the event. That is a fact.
Mr. Trump accepted the invitation before the event. That is also a fact.
Therefore we can conclude that any agreement for the particulars for these putative "fact checkers" was part of both the invitation or the acceptance. If there wasn't adequate "fact checkers" as part of the agreements to Mr. Lemon's liking then the fault would lie with the NABJ.

Mr. Trump arrived on time before the event. That is a fact.
There were difficulties with the audio systems. That is a fact.
The difficulties continued during the event such as Mr Trump not being able to hear the questions. That is also a ere fact.

The event started as soon as the audio systems were (partially) fixed. That is a fact.
Since the event started as soon as the audio issues were resolved and there was no delay due to any putative re-negotiating of the ersatz "fact checker" issue, the only actual delay was due to the audio issue.
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
If you have not actually seen the video, I know you are aware of it.


With all the controversies over what Trump said in this interview one thing may have almost slipped by.

But at 3:50 in the video Trump said "And then you were half an hour late .... They couldn't get their equipment working or something"

Yeah, or something. You will not be surprised to learn that Trump was being less than honest. The delay had nothing to do with the equipment.



Trump did not want to be fact-checked live and was refusing to go on stage, NABJ president Ken Lemon told Axios.

"The Q&A with the GOP presidential nominee was delayed more than an hour before he eventually joined a panel of Black journalists, including ABC News correspondent Rachel Scott, Fox News anchor Harris Faulkner and Semafor reporter Kadia Goba.

  • At the time, President Trump blamed the delay on audio problems.
  • Lemon told Axios, "There were audio problems, but they were resolved very quickly."
  • "The bigger problem was his threat not to take the stage when he had agreed to go on. He did not want to be fact-checked, but we could not let him on the stage without fact-checking," Lemon said.
Behind the scenes: The stalemate was so prolonged that NABJ leaders were prepared to explain to the audience of nearly 2,000 people why Trump would not appear.

  • "I was prepared to go on stage to craft a statement, saying he decided not to go on stage because of fact-checking... we couldn't compromise on that.
  • As Lemon was preparing that statement, Trump walked onto the stage."





Of course Trump doesn't want to be fact checked. Trump lies every time he opens his mouth. He lied about the fact checking.

But these are journalists. That means they are going to fact check you. That is their whole job. Only one out of the three of them was a Fox Propagandist, the other two were journalists. (and I bet I know what side Faulkner was on during the fact check debate)

And this is also probably at least partially the reason Trump was in such a bad mood going out there and so ready to throw a temper tantrum over the first question.
Do you have a source other than Lemon?
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
No the problem was with the audio. The attendees literally saw the technicians working on the audio system. Trump not wanting to be "fact checked" was a separate matter and not the issue. This isn't "another Trump lie". It is a lie by the NABJ President trying to deflect the heat he is taking for the debacle due to the organizations logistical incompetence.
Wow! Trump tells truth. Hold the front page.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Wrong. The OP link only provides a CLAIM by the NABJ President that there was such an issue. It provides no proof that it even happened. So, yeah, back at you "nice try".
And a counterclaim by a serial liar, between the two I don't need any more evidence for a plausible claim vs an implausible one.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
And a counterclaim by a serial liar, between the two I don't need any more evidence for a plausible claim vs an implausible one.
There is evidence to support Mr. Trump's position. There has been none provided by Mr. Lemon. Therefore it is Mr. Trump that has the plausible claim and Mr. Lemon the implausible claim.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
There is evidence to support Mr. Trump's position. There has been none provided by Mr. Lemon. Therefore it is Mr. Trump that has the plausible claim and Mr. Lemon the implausible claim.
You mean the momentary glitch at the very start? That is not very strong evidence at all. Meanwhile we have endless evidence of Trump lying and I have not seen any evidence of Lemon lying.
 
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