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The reasons why Christians are accused of idolatry

Tumah

Tumah

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Luca85 said:
I would like to discuss with non-Christians the reasons why Christianity is associated with idolatry, which , I think, is an understandable but unsubstantiated stereotype.
Idolatry is condemned by Christians too...so I tend to think people of other faiths don't understand our vision of God.
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I don't think it's the same for every denomination, so you'll have to be specific as to which one or which beliefs you're asking about.

In Judaism, there are a number of opinions, but for the sake of simplicity, we use Maimonides. He defines idolatry as fulfilling two qualities: (1) belief in something that is not G-d is G-d/a god, and (2) an act of worship, such as prayer towards a being that is not G-d as G-d/a god or as an intermediary.

So depending where your beliefs about the J man fall, that will determine how Jewish Law will relate to you.
 
Estro Felino

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Tumah said:
I don't think it's the same for every denomination, so you'll have to be specific as to which one or which beliefs you're asking about.

In Judaism, there are a number of opinions, but for the sake of simplicity, we use Maimonides. He defines idolatry as fulfilling two qualities: (1) belief in something that is not G-d is G-d/a god, and (2) an act of worship, such as prayer towards a being that is not G-d as G-d/a god or as an intermediary.

So depending where your beliefs about the J man fall, that will determine how Jewish Law will relate to you.
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Thank you for your feedback...but I don't understand what the J man is.
Secondly, I need to understand what you mean by God...that is what / who you believe God is.
 
Estro Felino

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Tumah said:
The J-man, the big-J, J-dog, the artist formerly known as J. You know.


The indivisible Creator of everything.
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Ok...I will quote a Catholic theologian, Monsignor Poma, to try to explain you what a Christian means by God:
"The divine dimension and the human dimension are so intertwined that it is impossible to distinguish one from the other: with Jesus' birth, the God , which was the Creator-Word, which was unaware of Himself, enters History for the first time as evidence of the fullness of times. Jesus somehow eliminated the sacred because he said that the sacred is the human, actually"
 
Tumah

Tumah

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Luca85 said:
Ok...I will quote a Catholic theologian, Monsignor Poma, to try to explain you what a Christian means by God:
"The divine dimension and the human dimension are so intertwined that it is impossible to distinguish one from the other: with Jesus' birth, the God , which was the Creator-Word, which was unaware of Himself, enters History for the first time as evidence of the fullness of times. Jesus somehow eliminated the sacred because he said that the sacred is the human, actually"
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This doesn't really answer it clearly.

If Christians believe that G-d is a word ("Creator-Word), then I'd guess that would be idolatry, no different than saying G-d is a plate.
Is G-d "entering history" meant to say that G-d became a human and entered as part of human history? Saying that G-d is a human is no different than saying that G-d is a plate.
Is saying "the sacred is the human" applicable to the entire humanity or is it just a roundabout way of saying that G-d became human?
 
RedDragon94

RedDragon94

Love everyone, meditate often
LuisDantas said:
Unless you mean the question in a way that accepts as an answer "to contrast with certainty", I don't think that the question has a logical meaning.
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The purpose of doubt is to arrive at the truth. I'll just say that. To live in doubt is hell on earth.
 
LuisDantas

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
RedDragon94 said:
Therefore have no dogmas/beliefs, right?
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Dogmas are very different from mere beliefs, and that is a very consequential distinction.

Dogmas are presumably understood to be weighty for whoever believes in them. Beliefs are what people have when they fail to obtain something more reliable.
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

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The reasons why Christians are accused of idolatry
Luca85 said:
I would like to discuss with non-Christians the reasons why Christianity is associated with idolatry, which , I think, is an understandable but unsubstantiated stereotype.
Idolatry is condemned by Christians too...so I tend to think people of other faiths don't understand our vision of God.
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Jesus sure was not an idolater, he did not believe in Trinity but then he was not a Christian but a Jew or strictly speaking an Israelite or follower of Moses. He did not invent a new religion.
The above is what I sincerely believe, others could believe differently with reasons and arguments, if any, please.
Right, please?
Regards
 
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