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The Regime's “Cyber Action Against Russia” isn’t about Russia

Lighthouse

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One might imagine that.
But only if one already had a solid bias against either the USA, the Democrats, or both.
Tom

That is why I read but do not adhere to what media and Wikileaks have to say. Whether it's in favor of any side.
I do believe if Wikileaks started releasing stuff on Donald and Republicans that all of a sudden it would become the most trusted source.
 
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idav

Being
Premium Member
Russia doesn't have to be viewed as an enemy all because of the name of Hillary.
Confidence doesn't equate to physical evidence.
Are you a cyber expert on the case?
Everyone else's stuff was more protected by not being negligent.
I'd imagine if Wikileaks released stuff on Trump it would be believed, but since it's Hillary Wikileaks can't be believed. I can only imagine how much then Wikileaks would be trusted if it started bombarding the Republican's and Trump.
When people are negligent, it opens this door. Rather than taking responsibility they blame Russia.
They didn't get this stuff from Hillary. A hacker wanted dnc stuff and got it, not by negligence but because hackers get passed security protocols. They even knew pretty immediately of a breach.
 

Lighthouse

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Are you a cyber expert on the case?

They didn't get this stuff from Hillary. A hacker wanted dnc stuff and got it, not by negligence but because hackers get passed security protocols. They even knew pretty immediately of a breach.

Confidence doesn't equate to physical evidence, whether someone is a cyber expert or not.

One thing leads to another.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
Confidence doesn't equate to physical evidence, whether someone is a cyber expert or not.

One thing leads to another.
Do you know why someone might be confident without physical evidence. It's not a religion they are trying to promote. Do you know why Intelligence would have been advising the candidates of Russia's involvement of hacking DNC since June. You think cyber experts use some sort of crystal ball?
 

Lighthouse

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Do you know why someone might be confident without physical evidence. It's not a religion they are trying to promote. Do you know why Intelligence would have been advising the candidates of Russia's involvement of hacking DNC since June. You think cyber experts use some sort of crystal ball?

I don't know. Agenda, cover-ups, assumptions, the need to blame somebody, or that it's true, partly true. Who knows. You seem to trust everything the government will mentally feed you, which is your choice.
I do not, as they were confident in Iraq's WMD's in order for .......... something.

Potential involvement.
 
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idav

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I don't know. Agenda, cover-ups, assumptions, the need to blame somebody, or that it's true, partly true. Who knows. You seem to trust everything the government will mentally feed you, which is your choice.
I do not, as they were confident in Iraq's WMD's in order for .......... something.
I only am reporting what is said to the public. What I believe is besides the issue, your the one just prepared to call them liars without knowing what or why. It isn't always very difficult to find where a cyber attack is coming from, sometimes its a little more difficult but not impossible, and sometimes takes cyber security experts to figure out. You would be surprised what Russia is doing even in private sectors, not that it means the Russian government is involved, thats another issue all together.
 

Lighthouse

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I only am reporting what is said to the public. What I believe is besides the issue, your the one just prepared to call them liars without knowing what or why. It isn't always very difficult to find where a cyber attack is coming from, sometimes its a little more difficult but not impossible, and sometimes takes cyber security experts to figure out. You would be surprised what Russia is doing even in private sectors, not that it means the Russian government is involved, thats another issue all together.

I have not called them liars. I don't put my faith/trust in them or believe everything I am mentally fed. I claim to not know what is really going on. I can believe stuff also.

Great point, about the private sectors and government.

Also, for all we know a third party can be trying to cause enmity and conflict between the US and Russia, or the US government itself can be trying to focus the attention on Russia and the public. Who knows.
 

idav

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Also, for all we know a third party can be trying to cause enmity and conflict between the US and Russia, or the US government itself can be trying to focus the attention on Russia and the public. Who knows.
I haven't ruled that out either.
 

meghanwaterlillies

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this how I view the exchange its by who backing..
Keep in mind I could barely get through Hillary Clintons; it kinda goes on like for ever...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bernie_Sanders_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hillary_Clinton_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016
http://drrichswier.com/2016/03/20/o...tly-by-george-soros-by-discover-the-networks/
So when you are talking like this It only makes me think of the connection
Which I looked for enemies of George soros which is a little different
I know that George Soros doesn't like Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán or they don't like each other //
Which isn't Russian per say... Viktor Orban says that trump is better for EU
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Hungary
And some things in Syria
for example the peace plan that went down in the UN which has so many of the Arab influences who can say such..
Kofi anan which I remember him coming on sesame street once as child

first presented the six point peace plan which failed just like Darfur before the genocide and fights just like Rwanada before the genocide and Uganda .. He steps down but have they another Bramahi .. Which but He blames the US for that because we didn't do enough.. Which its like we can never do enough in the arab countries
Special U.N. envoy Kofi Annan acknowledged in an interview published Saturday that the international community’s efforts to find a political solution to the escalating violence in Syria have failed.….
Which he does seem to try to blame the united states...
Obama sends CIA to Syria, while Kofi Annan throws in the towel ...
www.fiammanirenstein.com/articoli.asp?Categoria=5&Id=2933
By all accounts, Barack Obama wants to bequeath to his successor a new ... Former U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan Says the War on Drugs has Failed.
kofi annan calls obama's libya policy “not very helpful”. When Barack Obama was running for president he committed to leading the United Nations and other ...
Il Giornale, August 3rd, 2012. When entering the Middle East scene, Obama does not usually resolve much, but he creates much ado. That is what looks like this ...
Top UN Advisor: Hillary A Danger to World Peace, Lied about UN Treaty, Ruined Kofi Annan's Peace Plan,,
“The evidence shows that we have not succeeded,” he told the French daily Le Monde
http://punchng.com/kofi-annan-rejects-trump/
So the UN is mostly arab supporters uses UN troops (nonetheless) and asks for US troops to stand guard or train people to protect themselves or influence a democracy. If "peace" talks don't work which the UN is filled with such they pull out just before **** hits the fan. While the UN also sends envoys and asks for weaponary supplies from places like Russia willing to go in and supply, sometimes it's the bidder, talks of the differences of these groups.
And most of this accumulates in forms of islam. Tribe verses tribe even if they look exactly the same. Like tribal warfare.
If that isn't it then its also religious which means Jeremiah was a bullfrog not a prophet, the betraying of innocent. The field of blood
His lord was.
baruch and ben melech..
field of blood..
 
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