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the relevance of your avatar , ....dharmic religions only .

Not sure what Anava is holding. My wife said it looks like he's making a futile attempt to fight back.
pranām Vinayaka

Can we see this at least like: both Shiva and Anava having respective intentions and free will?


मैत्रावरुणिः;3473000 said:
Homies, it's a dagger. A dagger. A dagger. Dagger, dagger, dagger. Dagger. Dagoba. Dagoba. Dagoba. :D
Seems he is delusional a bit..holding the dagger as a pistol is not going to make it any better!
 

Vinayaka

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pranām Vinayaka

Can we see this at least like: both Shiva and Anava having respective intentions and free will?

Not sure what you mean. The 'little guy' does have a name which I forget, (editted ... Apasmara) but he represents our ego or the bondage of anava. That's why I called him Anava. Lord Siva dancing on him demonstrates how the devotee must submit his will to God, much like how we prostrate full out in an act of submission. So although the individual does have free will, once he starts on the path of sadhana, his will should become more aligned with His will.
 
Not sure what you mean. The 'little guy' does have a name which I forget, (editted ... Apasmara) but he represents our ego or the bondage of anava. That's why I called him Anava. Lord Siva dancing on him demonstrates how the devotee must submit his will to God, much like how we prostrate full out in an act of submission. So although the individual does have free will, once he starts on the path of sadhana, his will should become more aligned with His will.
You suggest, if I get it right, the free will still remains, while a parallel "expansion" into Shiva consciousness also takes place?

p.s./ wiki says Apasmāra cannot be killed. So he does seem to have an independence.
 
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Also, Vinayaka ji, don't you think GaNesha is more like his father Shiva, as if like the "Sura" transformation of the "Asura" Apasmāra?

And Murugan is more like (and loved by) Mother Pāravati?
 

Vinayaka

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Also, Vinayaka ji, don't you think GaNesha is more like his father Shiva, as if like the "Sura" transformation of the "Asura" Apasmāra?

And Murugan is more like (and loved by) Mother Pāravati?

I rarely think, to be honest. Ganesha just is. Murugan just is. i just pray to the vibration, They do stand alone in vibration though, Murugan, and Ganesha. I see Shakti (Parvati) in Nataraja's earring.

We were over at the Ganesha temple this morning worshipping Murugan there.
 

Vinayaka

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You suggest, if I get it right, the free will still remains, while a parallel "expansion" into Shiva consciousness also takes place?

p.s./ wiki says Apasmāra cannot be killed. So he does seem to have an independence.

Free will remains, but there is no expansion into Siva Consciousness, until much much later on this san marga. But by all means help yourself, if you can.
 

Deva758

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I just think the Nataraja - Shiva as the cosmic dancer - is one of the most beautiful images anywhere.

If there is a God, that God creates and destroys worlds and universes. That is what I think.
 
I just think the Nataraja - Shiva as the cosmic dancer - is one of the most beautiful images anywhere.

If there is a God, that God creates and destroys worlds and universes. That is what I think.
Uh, I can't see the naughty- my favourite- Apasmāra in your Natarāja;):D
 
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