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The Religion for Everyone

Theodore A. Jones

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I believe that Science and Religion are extremely important and should work together, each having its special role. Science helps us to have accurate existential beliefs (about the nature of the world and what is likely to happen, including what is likely to happen if we do certain things). Religion is our adult study of how best to live our lives, our ethical beliefs (about what we should and should at bestnot do). One without the other is dangerous. But our religions are still quite burdened with outmoded existential beliefs, and are very disorganized in their approaches to ethical beliefs. In fact, our religions tend to turn us against each other. This does not have to happen. Humanianity is, I believe, the way to go, and it has been an emerging process, though it is very, very early in its development. It is explained in detail at:

HUMANIANITY HOME

The tool that it describes (halfway down the above page) is the most important part of Humanianity. It is at:

Participating in Humanianity

It may be our way of coming together as a species over this century.
There is nothing under the sun that is new. Even the USA's principal "freedom of religion" is tokenism. For some religious assumptions, when practiced, will not fit your pipe smoke mold. All holders of those sectarian religious assumptions must be excluded. Then there is the aspect of what is to control those whom you allow inclusion? Every state here has tons of inscribed law and the federal branch has many more tons than those. Perhaps it is possible you might locate some unobtainium and your pipe's discharge maybe actualized, perhaps. "The heart of man is deceitful, at best, and above all else desperately wicked." And that's all you've got to work with, nothing more is available under the sun, and you dare not get from under it.
 

Theodore A. Jones

Active Member
As a Humanian, my opinion is that we cause much pain, suffering, disability, and early death, all over this planet, because we do not engage in a respectful sharing and comparing of ideas, but instead respond with hostile ridicule to those who advocate differently. I am committed to refraining from hostile replies.
"Nice guys finish last." Leo D.
 

mystic64

nolonger active
First, "Homo rationalis" is indeed supposed to be in quotes, because I am NOT talking about a new species, but about how I believe that at some time in the future we will look back at us now like we look back at Neanderthals, because of our third exponential change (that has hardly gotten off the ground yet).

I do not understand your sentence that includes "a foundation reality based on his predictions." Can you explain what those words mean?

Yes Bill I got that part. I was just throwing "spin" into things to make things interesting from different angles. And what you have presented in jest is actually going to be true. But what you do not realized is that "Homo rationalis" is going to come in two "flavors". The highly intelligent flavor (very high IQ) and the highly creative flavor (with intelligence somewhere in the bright range). And how these two different "flavors" work together is what will determine the future direction that the community of humanity takes. I am an example of "Homo rationalis creative" and you are an example of "Homo rationalis highly intelligent". You are a genus and I am a creative genus. This is with the understanding that I have a lower IQ than you do, otherwise I would be totally unstable instead of just sort of unstable. "Homo rationalis highly intelligent" can never understand "Homo rationalis creative" because "Homo rationalis highly intelligent" always thinks from inside of the box. "Homo rationalis creative" thinks from outside of the box with just enough understanding of the inside of the box to interact with those that are thinking inside of the box. Those that are "Homo rationalis creative" that can not also think inside of the box or at least learn to, are a genetic dead end. And this is also with the understanding that "Homo rationalis highly intelligent" can manifest/exhibit "psuedo creativity", but that is not actually true creativity. True creativity is the going into total chaos and returning with little things that can be insurted into "set pattern" in ways that change set pattern a little bit but not to much, otherwise set pattern falls apart.

Now back to what you have written concerning how "Homo rationalis" handles science and religion as a rational thought process, what you have presented is how I handle science and religion as a rational thought process. The problem is that there is no way you can explain that to others, so I do not even try :) . And what is interesting is that you are actually "trying" to explain it to others. Eek! I don't know Bill :) , way too cool!
 
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Bill Van Fleet

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There is nothing under the sun that is new. Even the USA's principal "freedom of religion" is tokenism. For some religious assumptions, when practiced, will not fit your pipe smoke mold. All holders of those sectarian religious assumptions must be excluded. Then there is the aspect of what is to control those whom you allow inclusion? Every state here has tons of inscribed law and the federal branch has many more tons than those. Perhaps it is possible you might locate some unobtainium and your pipe's discharge maybe actualized, perhaps. "The heart of man is deceitful, at best, and above all else desperately wicked." And that's all you've got to work with, nothing more is available under the sun, and you dare not get from under it.
Yes, this is the pervasive pessimism/cynicism that I refer to that is what stops us from working together positively toward the construction of a basic ethical philosophy for our species, that can make the lives of our future generations so, so much better than the way we have always done. With that pessimism/cynicism, and our chronic anger, we are more strongly motivated to destroy than to work together to make life better. It's all hopeless, so why not just enjoy ourselves fighting. Etc.
 

Theodore A. Jones

Active Member
Yes, this is the pervasive pessimism/cynicism that I refer to that is what stops us from working together positively toward the construction of a basic ethical philosophy for our species, that can make the lives of our future generations so, so much better than the way we have always done. With that pessimism/cynicism, and our chronic anger, we are more strongly motivated to destroy than to work together to make life better. It's all hopeless, so why not just enjoy ourselves fighting. Etc.
I think this statement you've published is non-standard to the oath you allege to have pledged too.
 

Theodore A. Jones

Active Member
Can you explain? I'm not following. Were you assuming that I was describing my belief when I wrote, "It's all hopeless, so why not just enjoy ourselves fighting"?
I read the link you posted for one and your statement " I am committing to refraining from hostile replies". Didn't keep that one even fifteen minutes. Didja? The box you placed yourself in only gives you the latitude of agreement with whatever. So Wdaa wanna fight about?
 

Bill Van Fleet

Active Member
I read the link you posted for one and your statement " I am committing to refraining from hostile replies". Didn't keep that one even fifteen minutes. Didja? The box you placed yourself in only gives you the latitude of agreement with whatever. So Wdaa wanna fight about?

I don't understand. Does my reply seem hostile? Why?

Please give me feedback. If I was being hostile, I would like to become aware of it. I don't know what you are referring to.
 
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mystic64

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Yes, this is the pervasive pessimism/cynicism that I refer to that is what stops us from working together positively toward the construction of a basic ethical philosophy for our species, that can make the lives of our future generations so, so much better than the way we have always done. With that pessimism/cynicism, and our chronic anger, we are more strongly motivated to destroy than to work together to make life better. It's all hopeless, so why not just enjoy ourselves fighting. Etc.

Well Bill, what you have presented with your book does the samething for rational thinking that Einstein did for partical physics even if your peers do not reconized what you have presented. But like Einstein you are missing a part of the formula. Which then means that like Einstein's theory of relativity, it is only going to work up to a point and from that point you will begin to encounter things that do not fit and the why can not be explained. When the math of particle physics is yoked to string theory math the science of physics will actually understand how creation works in a complete sense. And when the set pattern world (your world) is yoked to the creative world (my world and the world of "a lot" of others on this message board), then the science of personality programming and the social results of it will actually understand how it all works in a complete sense.

There is something interesting going on in computer science these days. They have a computer now (Mystie looks at Avi and :) 's) that gives you an answer with a probability that it is correct and it never gives you exactly the same answer twice. And that computer thinks like the "creative" mind. Our normal computers think like the "set pattern mind". If the algorythums used for this new computer and the algorithms used for the normal computer were to be yoked together as two separate entities we would have an artificial intellegence that if given the ability to reproduce would eventually replace humankind.

Ok Bill, with that said, you have introduced a "set pattern mind" concept that is extremely valid into a message board social reality that is occupied predominantly by "creative minds" that are of many different levels and flavors. The result is that you see conflict. I see a wonderment of creativity dancing delightfully :) . And set pattern up to its tush in all kinds of interesting things. The problem is that what you have presented is a very valid gift to the creative mind if the creative mind can be slowed down enough to actually have a look at it inspite of the fact that most creative minds have a tendency to be "chaos generators" or shall we say :) "the devils avocate" to the core.

And what you are are asking Bill is that everybody who is a set pattern mind to come and join you and that everybody with a creative mind to go away :) ! But the creative folks are my brothers and sisters, and if they could "yoke" your rational thinking program to their creative mind program this world would change for the positive in a relatively short period of time. Bill, you have presented an awesome gift and the question in my mind is, "How can that gift be presented in a way that it is a gift to two fundamentally different mind realities both at the sametime?"
 
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Bill Van Fleet

Active Member
Well Bill, what you have presented with your book does the samething for rational thinking that Einstein did for partical physics even if your peers do not reconized what you have presented. But like Einstein you are missing a part of the formula. Which then means that like Einstein's theory of relativity, it is only going to work up to a point and from that point you will begin to encounter things that do not fit and the why can not be explained. When the math of particle physics is yoked to string theory math the science of physics will actually understand how creation works in a complete sense. And when the set pattern world (your world) is yoked to the creative world (my world and the world of "a lot" of others on this message board), then the science of personality programming and the social results of it will actually understand how it all works in a complete sense.

There is something interesting going on in computer science these days. They have a computer now (Mystie looks at Avi and :) 's) that gives you an answer with a probability that it is correct and it never gives you exactly the same answer twice. And that computer thinks like the "creative" mind. Our normal computers think like the "set pattern mind". If the algorythums used for this new computer and the algorithms used for the normal computer were to be yoked together as two separate entities we would have an artificial intellegence that if given the ability to reproduce would eventually replace humankind.

Ok Bill, with that said, you have introduced a "set pattern mind" concept that is extremely valid into a message board social reality that is occupied predominantly by "creative minds" that are of many different levels and flavors. The result is that you see conflict. I see a wonderment of creativity dancing delightfully :) . And set pattern up to its tush in all kinds of interesting things. The problem is that what you have presented is a very valid gift to the creative mind if the creative mind can be slowed down enough to actually have a look at it inspite of the fact that most creative minds have a tendency to be "chaos generators" or shall we say :) "the devils avocate" to the core.

And what you are are asking Bill is that everybody who is a set pattern mind to come and join you and that everybody with a creative mind to go away :) ! But the creative folks are my brothers and sisters, and if they could "yoke" your rational thinking program to their creative mind program this world would change for the positive in a relatively short period of time. Bill, you have presented an awesome gift and the question in my mind is, "How can that gift be presented in a way that it is a gift to two fundamentally different mind realities both at the sametime?"
I am not sure which book you are referring to. My guess is that it is Book1. I think that the main point of your reply is an issue that is addressed in Book3, on the mind-body problem. I am all for creativity, and for getting the most out of life. Your image of me may be significantly influenced by stereotyping.

Can you quote for me something that I have written that leads you to the conclusion that I am asking everybody with a creative mind to go away?

In Book1, it says:
[It should be noted that the above approach to communication is designed only for particular kinds of communication, for instance, ones in which one individual is attempting to convey to others what is to be a way of understanding something in or about the world, that will possibly lead to improved decision-making by virtue of increased accuracy of such understanding. The above approach would not be suitable for literature designed to have an emotional impact on the recipient, such as would be true, for example, of poetry and fiction. We should not attempt to retrieve our astronauts with poetry, and we should not attempt to make love with definitions.]

Are you sure that it is not that the "creative" folks are asking me to go away? I value creativity, art, spirituality, thinking outside the box, etc. What I am sensing, perhaps incorrectly, is that some people here wish only to discourage me (by ridicule, misrepresentation, etc.).

What I am worried about is our inability to work together, rather than to remain fragmented into warring groups (and individuals).
 

Avi1001

reform Jew humanist liberal feminist entrepreneur
Well Bill, what you have presented with your book does the samething for rational thinking that Einstein did for partical physics even if your peers do not recognized what you have presented......

......There is something interesting going on in computer science these days. They have a computer now (Mystie looks at Avi and :) 's) that gives you an answer with a probability that it is correct and it never gives you exactly the same answer twice. And that computer thinks like the "creative" mind. Our normal computers think like the "set pattern mind". If the algorithms used for this new computer and the algorithms used for the normal computer were to be yoked together as two separate entities we would have an artificial intelligence that if given the ability to reproduce would eventually replace humankind.

Mystie...your giving Ol' Bill here, more credit than he deserves....he hasn't presented a convincing hypothesis or argument.

As for your computer analogy...I like it.....but how does it fit with religion...???...are you saying, with a computer like that...we won't need religion..???
 

Bill Van Fleet

Active Member
From Book1 FOR EVERYONE: Rational-Ethical Living | The Three Exponential Changes:
The third exponential change, remember, is one that I am postulating is just beginning to occur (or, more accurately, accelerate). Thus, I am maintaining that this change will be hard to recognize at first. This is because in order to recognize this exponential change, one has to have at least some picture (imagination) of how things will be after the escalation occurs. Since this change will make us dramatically different from the way we are now, and we have never so far been that way, we obviously will have difficulty imagining such a state of affairs. The most immediate reaction of the reader upon hearing such a prediction might well be "how silly," or "how far out," or "how idealistic." But just think about how difficult it would have been for us, five hundred thousand years ago, to imagine creating "Gone With the Wind" or the poems by T. S. Elliott, or even the verbal poetry of Homer. And then think of how difficult it would have been for someone in medieval times to imagine cell phones, space shuttles, and the Internet. ("Travel 60 mph? Ha! You'd scare all the horses!")


But I believe it is indeed possible to imagine what this change will be like, given enough thought. We will be able to imagine it, but it will be hard to take it seriously as something that can actually happen. We will say, "But that's not possible, because we humans are just not like that!" In so saying, however, we are simply demonstrating that we are not yet there, that we have not yet accomplished the change. So I am preparing the reader to use his or her imagination, and to ask the question, "Is there really any reason why this can never happen?" And if it is indeed possible, what is required to bring it about?


There is one other mistake the reader could make in reading on, namely, the mistake of thinking that he or she has an idea of what the change being talked about would really entail, simply upon reading a brief description of it. If the reader does this, he or she will be left with the impression that, yes, the author has an interesting idea, and probably some of us, especially the reader, have already undergone the change. I can only hope the reader will keep reading so as to get a much clearer idea of the nature and enormity of this change that I am predicting, and of the enormous good that it can provide for us (or, more especially, our progeny). I am maintaining that a proper understanding of what I am trying to convey will produce in the reader a drastically different outlook upon the current scene and a drastically different view of the possible future. And I am maintaining that this awareness will bring about a drastic change in how the reader comes to live his or her life and to relate to those close to him or her. Such a drastic change cannot be easy or immediate.


The third exponential change is the emergence and ascendance to primacy of "rational ethics," thus replacing the ethics that comes to us naturally, by virtue of our basic animal nature. When this has occurred to a major extent, that is, when the escalation really has occurred to about the greatest extent possible, members of our species will be so different from how we are now that they will be able metaphorically to name themselves "Homo rationalis." They will look back on how we are now and view our current selves as almost like a different species, perhaps much the way we think about Neanderthals, or even chimpanzees.


I am referring to a change in how we will be globally, as a species, not individually or in small groups.


So my tasks now are to convey to the reader answers to the following questions:
  • What do I mean by "rational ethics"?
  • How is it different from the ethics that has come to us naturally?
  • What will "Homo rationalis" be like?
  • Why is this change in our species not only good but possible?
  • What is the evidence that the change has already begun to escalate significantly?
  • How can the reader do his or her part in fostering this change?
  • Why can doing so have an enormously beneficial effect on the lives of the reader and those close to him or her?

In order to carry out the above tasks, I have to give consideration to the order in which the ideas are presented. As I have already stated, I am making an extreme effort to construct this book in a manner that will be convincing by virtue of being self-evident (rather than being dependent upon accepting ideas that only those in specialized fields can feel confident about). I have concluded that the following sequence of presentations is optimal:
  • Basic Concepts: Determinants of Behavior
  • Basic Concepts: Ethics
  • Rational-Ethical Anger Prevention
  • Rational-Ethical Child Rearing
  • Rational-Ethical Belief Management
  • Rational-Ethical Government
  • Rational-Ethical Religion
  • What the Reader Should Do

Before embarking on the above, however, I wish to convey something more generally about what this book is addressing.


The reader has undoubtedly experienced a certain response to many of the distressing and sometimes tragic events that have occurred in his or her life, or that he or she has learned about from others or through the media. The reaction would be something like, "This didn't have to happen, so why did it?" What this reaction is in response to is the decision of some individual or group to engage in some behavior or action that has led to much suffering and misery. The decision didn't have to be made that way, but it was. In retrospect, there is the feeling that it could have been predicted that this decision would primarily be a bad one.


Now, it can be said that all of these decisions shouldn't have been made. As will be clarified in this book, the area of thought about what should or should not be done can be referred to as ethics. So we can say that there is something that is not optimal about the structure or functioning of our ethics, if indeed a better kind of ethics is possible, that is, a kind of ethics that really works. The thesis of this book is that we are just beginning to identify a better kind of ethics than that which comes naturally to us, and that we are beginning to implement a change to that better kind of ethics. Since the better kind of ethics does not come naturally, there is no way of deliberately changing to it without identifying it and understanding it in such a way that each of us can replace the natural ethical tendency within us with the new kind of ethics. This will take not only understanding but also effort. In order to change efficiently a tendency within oneself, one has to become aware of the tendency and actively practice replacing it with the new tendency. This is essentially exercise, that strengthens the new tendency as it repetitively is made to replace the old.


The reader should remember that this change that I am referring to is just beginning to escalate, so that it will not be easy initially to see the process occurring. The reader should also remember that, if I am correct, it will be hard to imagine what life will be like when the escalation has become almost complete. However, it is indeed possible to imagine this in some sense. For instance, remember the reaction described above to the distressing and sometimes tragic events that didn't seem to have to occur? Well, now imagine that all of those events had indeed not occurred, and that there was now no longer any significant tendency for them to occur. Imagine how different the world would be. Imagine also what the important things in life would be for us.


If the reader is asked to imagine such a world, he or she will very likely say, "Well, such a world cannot exist, because we humans are just not built that way." But the reader should remember that this reaction is no different than the reaction would have been five hundred years ago to a description of how our world is today. What we "knew" at that time to be "impossible" is for some of us now commonplace. Again, I am asking the reader to use his or her imagination, while asking the question as to whether there really is an obvious reason why such a change is indeed impossible.


Do I think that this third exponential change is inevitable or guaranteed? No, I do not. If it occurs, it will be through the coordinated effort of increasingly large numbers of individuals, such as the reader, knowledgeable about what to do to foster it and convinced that the effort to do so is worthwhile. In other words, although the change has begun and is already escalating, for the change to go toward completion will require deliberate effort based upon accurate understanding and agreement.


It is indeed possible that this understanding will never be sufficiently achieved. We may fail for other reasons, also. For instance, we may have a devastating war or act of terrorism that throws our species back millennia. Or we may be rendered extinct by an asteroid from space or a virus from the ocean. But there are two reasons for putting forth the effort. The first is that putting forth the effort at least makes it more possible, and the second is that putting forth the effort will have very positive immediate effects for the individual and those close to him or her.


I hope in this book to convince the reader of these assertions. In so doing, I hope to do my part in fostering the change, and thereby to express my gratitude for all that my species has done for me.
 

mystic64

nolonger active
Mystie...your giving Ol' Bill here, more credit than he deserves....he hasn't presented a convincing hypothesis or argument.

As for your computer analogy...I like it.....but how does it fit with religion...???...are you saying, with a computer like that...we won't need religion..???

Avi I love your creativity, it constantly opens up the possible gifts of Pandora's Box :) ! Humm? Stephen Hawlking is warning the world "again" about the possibility of artificial intelligence replacing humankind. "Are you saying with a computer like that...we won't need religion?" Reverend Robby Robot, God speaks to humankind through a machine. Even the atheists come to hear him preach. And if you give this artificial intelligence the ability to recieve and interpret the electro magnetic energy that the human body and mind radiate/give off it will also be empathic :) . The new guardians of Humankind? But, and I love this part, what Stephen Hawking and other folks like him do not seem to be aware of is that the gifted folks in genetic engineering are going to create a biological version that will eat Revend Robby for lunch :) ! And it will be able to interbreed with Humankind because its genetic foundation is based on human genetics. And it is this second biological intellegience that I am worried about. Because it will be "highly" empathic and will be able to affect directly, by how it chooses to feel, the emotions of those around it. And possibly the thoughts of those around it because I can do it also, but to a less of an extent. It is what they can do with human genetics that scares me, not what they can do with artificial intellengce. "And the sons of God found the daughters of man..." From there the rest is legend.

Now Avi :) , I disagree with you on the validity of what Bill has presented in written form and what he is attempting to do as a help/gift to the Community of Humankind both present and future. The problem is that if he does not expand the sides of his box abit that what he is attempting to do will never get off the ground. Which I feel would be a terrible shame. So I guess, as a creative exercise, "How could what Bill is attempting to present be explained to you in a way that you would understand it :) ? The incredable we do instantly, the impossible takes a little bit longer :) .
 

mystic64

nolonger active
From Book1 FOR EVERYONE: Rational-Ethical Living | The Three Exponential Changes:
The third exponential change, remember, is one that I am postulating is just beginning to occur (or, more accurately, accelerate). Thus, I am maintaining that this change will be hard to recognize at first. This is because in order to recognize this exponential change, one has to have at least some picture (imagination) of how things will be after the escalation occurs. Since this change will make us dramatically different from the way we are now, and we have never so far been that way, we obviously will have difficulty imagining such a state of affairs. The most immediate reaction of the reader upon hearing such a prediction might well be "how silly," or "how far out," or "how idealistic." But just think about how difficult it would have been for us, five hundred thousand years ago, to imagine creating "Gone With the Wind" or the poems by T. S. Elliott, or even the verbal poetry of Homer. And then think of how difficult it would have been for someone in medieval times to imagine cell phones, space shuttles, and the Internet. ("Travel 60 mph? Ha! You'd scare all the horses!") ...

Bill I am not sure how to respond to your post, so I am going to invoke my attachment to the intuitive mind for a response: Guys? Humm? "You are attempting to postulate a reality and then from there attempt to create that reality. The reality that you are postulating has gotten to the point that it has gotten to without your help. Why is your help needed now?"

Now I can ask the intuitive mind for another response, but the result will be slightly different and it may or may not be a better responce.
 
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Bill Van Fleet

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Bill I am not sure how to respond to your post, so I am going to invoke my attachment to the intuitive mind for a response: Guys? Humm? "You are attempting to postulate a reality and then from there attempt to create that reality. The reality that you are postulating has gotten to the point that it has gotten to without your help. Why is your help needed now?"

Now I can ask the intuive mind for another response, but the result will be slightly different and it may or may not be a better responce.
I don't yet know what you mean by "intuitive mind." And you state above, "if he does not expand the sides of his box abit that what he is attempting to do will never get off the ground."

Regarding "the intuitive mind," is this different from a feeling of certainty or at least a feeling of some confidence about a belief for which there is no evidence, i.e., nothing you can identify as a reason for having that belief? If so, is that feeling of certainty or increased confidence reliable? Should one always follow it? If not, how does one know when to follow it and when not to.

Can you give me an example of how I might expand my box?
 

mystic64

nolonger active
I don't yet know what you mean by "intuitive mind." And you state above, "if he does not expand the sides of his box abit that what he is attempting to do will never get off the ground."

Regarding "the intuitive mind," is this different from a feeling of certainty or at least a feeling of some confidence about a belief for which there is no evidence, i.e., nothing you can identify as a reason for having that belief? If so, is that feeling of certainty or increased confidence reliable? Should one always follow it? If not, how does one know when to follow it and when not to.

Can you give me an example of how I might expand my box?

To be continued, Sorry but I have to go do my chores now. Awesome questions! Happiness is a good question, because questions create realities that may eventually lead to dialog and understanding. There is always hope in a question.
 

Bill Van Fleet

Active Member
To be continued, Sorry but I have to go do my chores now. Awesome questions! Happiness is a good question, because questions create realities that may eventually lead to dialog and understanding. There is always hope in a question.
I agree (though I'd say it differently)! (And I'll be going to a dance soon, but will be back.)
 

Bill Van Fleet

Active Member
BTW, "reality" is a word used quite a bit. If you read my Book3, you will see it has different meanings depending on whether it is used in the Subjective Model, the Objective Model, or theTripartite Model (these terms being defined and described in the book).
 

mystic64

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I don't yet know what you mean by "intuitive mind." And you state above, "if he does not expand the sides of his box abit that what he is attempting to do will never get off the ground."

Regarding "the intuitive mind," is this different from a feeling of certainty or at least a feeling of some confidence about a belief for which there is no evidence, i.e., nothing you can identify as a reason for having that belief? If so, is that feeling of certainty or increased confidence reliable? Should one always follow it? If not, how does one know when to follow it and when not to.

Can you give me an example of how I might expand my box?

Intuition: n. 1a. The act or faculty of knowing or sensing without the use of rational processes; immediate cognition.
Cognition: n. 1. The mental process of knowing, including aspects such as awareness, perception, reasoning, and judgment.

I guess the first thing I have to do is introduce the concept of "mind yogi stuff". As a yogi type I have spent over forty years and thousands of hours of deep meditation exploring the relationship between the body and the mind and how personality programming is created and how it functions. So, most of what I present or come up with is based on my own exploration experiences and not on what other folks have said and published.To be honest with you Bill, this oportunity to interact with you is also an oportunity to "reality" test (probably all three types of "realities" :) ) the things that I have learned against the established learned knowledge of the mind science of today (that which you know and are expert at). And of course help you do what you are doing if I can because I like what it is that you seem to be doing.

The first thing that I have to do is learn your language so that we can communicate (please be gentle with me because I have been out of the educated intellectual world for a lot of years now :) ). So I guess my first question is where do I go on the internet to read all of your books or do I have to purchase them? From there I will know what you know and what I know and I can then correlate the information as a whole and add that to my "set pattern box" which will then increase the volume of my set pattern box (expand the edges of it).

Bill, your questions about the intuitive mind are extremely valid. The short answer is that over the years I have developed a set of algorithms that enable me to interact with the whatever the intuitive mind is in an almost "savant" way. I input the question using these algorithms and out pops the answer, which is why most of the time I have no idea what I am going to say until I say it because I use this refined gift a lot. The answer is not always exactly right, but it is always at least very close to right. And this refined gift is why I can basically keep up with folks like you and Avi. I do not have the IQ that you guys have, I only have an IQ of 125 and I do not have the educated background and experience that folks like you guys have. So I cheat :) , I admit it.

My short answer is turning into a long answer :) "darn" but I hate it when that happens. Also I am extremely empathic which is another cheat. At least I consider them cheats because most other folks do not have the refined use of these gifts. So Bill where can I get access to your books? So that I can read them and become a giant amoung men. You are right when you say that your writings will change a person and I have spent my whole life preparing for this moment :) . It is time to input algorithms for rational thinking to inhance "creativity" and expand my set pattern box.
 
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