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The Republicans are the Problem

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
'Other side'?
You think Im a Democrat?
I don't know.
I only observe that even those of us who are neither Dems nor Pubs will lean somewhat against one more than
the other. Even I must watch myself, lest I develop a favorite. I like to spread my disdain around 'liberally'.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
What are your thoughts?

Some years ago, I read it was an American cultural trait to assume the truth lay somewhere in the middle between the extremes of partisan politics. Of course, there is no logical reason to assume such a thing, but I guess it's something we Americans tend to do -- rather than think.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Some years ago, I read it was an American cultural trait to assume the truth lay somewhere in the middle between the extremes of partisan politics.
Geeze...that's as loopy as thinking that "truth" even exists in politics.
The middle, ie, compromise, is simply what happens most of the time.

I propose a perspective:
The most dangerous monsters in history suffered from the illusion that they owned THE TRUTH, eg, Mao, Stalin.
Good is more likely when leaders make useful decisions entirely unrelated to truth, eg, Lincoln, Churchill.
(Of course, some people might interchange my above choices.)
 
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Jacksnyte

Reverend
Which ever side you're on, it's always the other side which is the problem.
Since this is true for all sides, it suggests that either all sides are the problem, or no side is the problem.
I say scrap the lot of 'em, and start over with the requirement that you cannot be rich if you want to hold office!
 

Jacksnyte

Reverend
I'd be yet another victim of the great Amerikan Empire, and Alex Jones would tell my story to the world! =D
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
There's a new report out that a group of powerful Republicans -- including Newt Gingrich and Eric Cantor -- gathered in a Washington restaurant on the night of Obama's inauguration and began mapping out a strategy of obstructionism.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
There's a new report out that a group of powerful Republicans -- including Newt Gingrich and Eric Cantor -- gathered in a Washington restaurant on the night of Obama's inauguration and began mapping out a strategy of obstructionism.
Of course! A conspiracy explains it all!. Satan hisself prolly attended.
Democrats would never get together to plan strategy.
Their meetings are more like this....
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Coca Cola Commercial - I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing (In Perfect Harmony) - 1971 - YouTube
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Of course! A conspiracy explains it all!. Satan hisself prolly attended.
Democrats would never get together to plan strategy

The report I read of the Republican meeting did not mention that Satan was in attendance. Nor did it say that Democrats never get together to plan strategy. On the other hand, your implying it is a mere conspiracy theory that Republicans might get together to plan strategy sounds naive.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The report I read of the Republican meeting did not mention that Satan was in attendance. Nor did it say that Democrats never get together to plan strategy. On the other hand, your implying it is a mere conspiracy theory that Republicans might get together to plan strategy sounds naive.
You infer the wrong thing.
I presume they all plot. Were I in power, I would plot too. So it's silly to find significance in looking solely at Publican plotting.
But when I observe how politicians design programs, I'll bet your best pair of pants that their plots are just as poorly executed.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I don't deny being deranged.

I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about your ideas.

I presume they all plot. Were I in power, I would plot too.

That strikes me as backpedaling on your earlier implication that Republicans meeting to map out their obstructionist strategy is a mere conspiracy theory.

But when I observe how politicians design programs, I'll bet your best pair of pants that their plots are just as poorly executed.

I disagree. It seems to me the Republicans have done an excellent job of carrying out their strategy of obstructionism.
 

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
And yet the Democrats have controlled the House and Senate from 2007-2010. The Republicans were powerless to stop anything they wanted to pass. Yes, they could drag things out, but ultimately they couldn't stop a thing. Even today, the House is run by the Republicans, but the Democrats still control the White House and the Senate. In this respect, there is no possibility that a Republican initiative will see the light of day.

My guess is that this "Blame the Republicans" campaign is designed to deflect attention away from the incompetence of the Obama Administration, gearing up for the election. The Democrats simply cannot run on Obama's record, so they are forced to demonize the Republicans instead.
:clap2:
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
So it's silly to find significance in looking solely at Publican plotting.

Are you saying that I find significance solely in Republican plotting? If so, then perhaps you are confused. This thread is specifically about Republicans. If it were about Democrats, I'd be talking about Democrats. But it's not about Democrats. It's about Republicans. Maybe you should start a thread about Democrats rather than repeatedly attempt to derail this thread.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about your ideas.
That strikes me as backpedaling on your earlier implication that Republicans meeting to map out their obstructionist strategy is a mere conspiracy theory.
I disagree. It seems to me the Republicans have done an excellent job of carrying out their strategy of obstructionism.
You don't really know that obstructionism is the result of a plot. It could just be that when 2 sides disagree,
& especially the atmosphere is rancorous, then little progress is made. A meeting was had....the conspiracy
theory is an empty one, since thwarting Obama's looney plans just looks like good policy.
I don't think Publicans are bright or coordinated enuf to pull off such a big disciplined scheme anyway. Perhaps
you think to highly of them.
 
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