Politicians have lost interest in winning?
Nah!
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The republicans don't really want the White House
- Thread starter LittlePinky82
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Nah!
LittlePinky82
Well-Known Member
It depends on the bigger picture.
The bigger picture is always driven by human nature.
Politicians crave power.
LittlePinky82
Well-Known Member
Depends on your definition of power. The White House isn't the be all end all of having power. Look even now. The republicans control majority of the state govts and all the damage they've done over the past decade or two now. They also have the judges and many of them are young and there for life.
Nonetheless, politicians crave power in all its great variety.
Dang.....I'm just repeat'n meself now.
LittlePinky82
Well-Known Member
And if being president isn't as powerful because of the situations and times you're in would you want it? Things are going to be getting really bad now. Not just with terrorism issues but with issues in general. Look at everything to clean up. Obama barely got to start on anything because of the right wingers blocking him too much. I just don't see it. Then they can take back the White House after Hillary and do their agendas and say "see? We got to beat Hillary and destroy her and are "cleaning up" her mess! We're awesome!"
Hillary was not going to win in the general election. The recent Tuesday election just two weeks ago shows the anti-establishment Republicans majority increasing even more than the huge landslide of the previous Senate campaigns.
Now with the horrific terrorist attacks by Islamo-fascist muslim terrorists, of which some appear to be Syrian "refugees" who came into France by way of Greece, Hillary is completely finished. Doesn't matter how her friends in the old "legacy" so-called "liberal" media try to spin it, only the small minority of leftists left watch that crap and not America who go to plenty of other legit news outlets that the leftists in government want to suppress as part of a crackdown on the free press, no one is going to be able to save her now.
She and Obama blamed an internet video that attacked Mohammed as the cause for previous attacks. Their lies and agenda have been totally exposed and discredited, and after yesterday's Islamic terrorism in France due to open borders and the lies such as the PC suppression of free speech via "hate speech" criminalization of anyone who makes them look bad and exposes them as a big part of the problem and certainly of no solutions, she is total toast.
She has as much chance having the silent majority coming out and voting for her as Louis Farrakhan getting elected.
Almost any Republican could beat her now, after yesterday. That was pretty much true even before yesterday, but now ....
Which goes to the heart of the matter of the hissy-fit Republican establishment which is part of the pro-amnesty and open borders crowd of the Chamber of Commerce and which is losing all power and their control to the Republican base and the dramatically ascendant anti-establishment wing.
Unlike the spin from the WSJ crowd who say the establishment hissy-fit has to do with concerns that an anti-establishment Republican candidate cannot beat an open borders obese and abusive big government corrupt establishment type like Hillary, be it Trump or Carson or whoever - actually that is not the truth of the matter at all regarding the hissy-fit of the now increasingly obsolete RNC establishment.
Their real hissy-fit is, their own internal numbers show almost any Republican would beat Hillary, even including one of their establishment pro-amnesty candidates who were losers in the past.
So the hissy-fit is they are now losing their last chance to run a loser establishment candidate but yet win the election.
Their last chance to even hold onto a rescue rope or lifebouy as they swash around in the water and the anti-establishment Republican base takes over the entire country.
But there is no way the base is going to nominate one of the McConnell wing, impossible. They are in one sense, beyond panic, they are becoming slightly loon jobs.
Nothing is going to stop this Jagannath Cart rolling over all of them. No matter how they attack the anti-establishment wing and no matter what dirt they dig up or phony agenda they try or which bews anchor they get onboard - good luck losers.
After yesterday, the cast is set. Nothing is going to stop the silent majority from casting their vote.
And after yesterday's Islamic terrorist attacks, Hillary now looks as legit to them as her wig. Just wait when San Francisco gets hit.
Now with the horrific terrorist attacks by Islamo-fascist muslim terrorists, of which some appear to be Syrian "refugees" who came into France by way of Greece, Hillary is completely finished. Doesn't matter how her friends in the old "legacy" so-called "liberal" media try to spin it, only the small minority of leftists left watch that crap and not America who go to plenty of other legit news outlets that the leftists in government want to suppress as part of a crackdown on the free press, no one is going to be able to save her now.
She and Obama blamed an internet video that attacked Mohammed as the cause for previous attacks. Their lies and agenda have been totally exposed and discredited, and after yesterday's Islamic terrorism in France due to open borders and the lies such as the PC suppression of free speech via "hate speech" criminalization of anyone who makes them look bad and exposes them as a big part of the problem and certainly of no solutions, she is total toast.
She has as much chance having the silent majority coming out and voting for her as Louis Farrakhan getting elected.
Almost any Republican could beat her now, after yesterday. That was pretty much true even before yesterday, but now ....
Which goes to the heart of the matter of the hissy-fit Republican establishment which is part of the pro-amnesty and open borders crowd of the Chamber of Commerce and which is losing all power and their control to the Republican base and the dramatically ascendant anti-establishment wing.
Unlike the spin from the WSJ crowd who say the establishment hissy-fit has to do with concerns that an anti-establishment Republican candidate cannot beat an open borders obese and abusive big government corrupt establishment type like Hillary, be it Trump or Carson or whoever - actually that is not the truth of the matter at all regarding the hissy-fit of the now increasingly obsolete RNC establishment.
Their real hissy-fit is, their own internal numbers show almost any Republican would beat Hillary, even including one of their establishment pro-amnesty candidates who were losers in the past.
So the hissy-fit is they are now losing their last chance to run a loser establishment candidate but yet win the election.
Their last chance to even hold onto a rescue rope or lifebouy as they swash around in the water and the anti-establishment Republican base takes over the entire country.
But there is no way the base is going to nominate one of the McConnell wing, impossible. They are in one sense, beyond panic, they are becoming slightly loon jobs.
Nothing is going to stop this Jagannath Cart rolling over all of them. No matter how they attack the anti-establishment wing and no matter what dirt they dig up or phony agenda they try or which bews anchor they get onboard - good luck losers.
After yesterday, the cast is set. Nothing is going to stop the silent majority from casting their vote.
And after yesterday's Islamic terrorist attacks, Hillary now looks as legit to them as her wig. Just wait when San Francisco gets hit.
Difficult times generally don't curb the lust for power.
Only an aged & weary pol would want to abdicate.
LittlePinky82
Well-Known Member
The republicans are too bat**** insane.
They still will have power. Also, sometimes how history views you can be power too. I just don't see the same zeal in republicans wanting it.
They're quite sane (most).
They just have slightly different values & opinions from Dems.
The 2 parties are so close to each other that minor differences appear to be vastly far apart, leading to the insanity charge by each against the other.
You want insane?
That's us....the Libertarian Party.
LittlePinky82
Well-Known Member
Ah libertarians. Bless your hearts.
I do agree with you about leading the insanity charge. Get your hard hat! I definitely think it's going to be a rough couple of years.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Ah, but you gotta be careful because not all self-proclaimed "libertarians" are really that. I would suggest that a true libertarian wants much liberty not only for themselves but also for others, and that's where the speed-bump lies. It's much like Barry Goldwater's lament that all too many self-professed "conservatives" really only take that position for selfish purposes with little to no commitment that involves others.
Is this the "no true libertarian" informal logical fallacy?
Is this a veiled accusation directed at RF's most beloved toilet unclogger?
Or are you actually defending me against my claim of insanity?
Meh....what group doesn't have its posers?
LittlePinky82
Well-Known Member
Who gets to decide who is a "true" libertarian? Is there a president of the group? Do you have a members only card? Or a Wonder twins type of ring?
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
A bit paranoid are ya? No, it was not about you.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Again, to repeat, if a person has supposed libertarian values that only really pertains to them in a rather self-centered way, then I think there's good reason to suspect that they may not be a libertarian after all.
So, would you say that anyone who says they're a "libertarian" must actually be one? Was Goldwater wrong on his criticism of self-proclaimed "conservatives" that didn't follow through when it came to their position on others? Are we to believe everything someone tells us they are? If I say I'm George Clooney, does that mean you must accept that I'm George Clooney?
LittlePinky82
Well-Known Member
Whatever.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
BTW, here's a test I've taken twice, once about five or so years ago, and the other about three weeks ago: https://www.politicalcompass.org/test . I took another similar test several years ago and pretty much ranked the same.
For the record, I place in the lower-left quadrant, which is "left"/"libertarian" with my closest association being Gandhi.
For the record, I place in the lower-left quadrant, which is "left"/"libertarian" with my closest association being Gandhi.
I find a little paranoia to be useful & healthy.
Underhill
Well-Known Member
Christie is definitely the strongest candidate with appeal on both sides of the aisle. Rubio maybe. But neither of them have a snowballs chance in hell of getting the nod for the nomination. The republican party is being dominated by the loons.
It's a strange situation in other ways too. The democrats actually are gaining ground among the populace as our culture is becoming more and more dominated by the cities. But the right keeps gaining ground at the state level where they strategically manipulate the districts to keep their numbers up.
I found this article when researching a topic for a paper...
"In Wang's analysis, North Carolina is singled out as an especially egregious example of the voter-to-representative disconnect. Despite Democrats garnering 51 percent of the overall U.S. House vote in the state, Democrats ended up with only four out of 13 of the seats -- something Wang said happened in only 1 percent of his random simulations, meaning it was no accident."
http://www.southernstudies.org/2013/02/the-south-and-the-great-gerrymander-of-2012.html
So 51% vote democrat but they only win 24% of the seats. How is that a representative government?