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The Restitution Of All Things

FineLinen

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Punishment of ABBA is disciplinary.

The root-meaning of one of the chief words for punishment is that of pruning. The Lord of the harvest never prunes to kill, but to help. The persistence of the consequences of sin long after the sin is forgiven by God is doubtless intended so to deepen and burn in the lesson that the cause of punishment may be cured.

God purposes to establish in righteousness, that the creature, even if he could, would not yield to sin. Punishment is meant by God to be self-corrective. This is expressed in Jer. 2:19, "Thine own wickedness shall correct you, and your backsliding shall reprove you."

This still is disciplinary, but it implies that in the punishment itself is a self-corrective element.

Fermentation of liquids tends to their own purification. The principle of the modern disposal plant is that one germ of impurity devours another till all their malignity is destroyed.

God tells us what the harvest of sin is; "The wages of sin is death" (Rom. 6:23). This denotes all kinds of death, answering to the different kinds of sin. Sin always attempts to kill God. Its culmination was reached when it slew the Christ, but His death overcame "him (satan) that had the power of death" (Heb. 2:14). And through our Lord's death all death has been potentially destroyed, and will be actually and historically destroyed before the end of the ages, when the Son hands over the kingdom to the Father:

"The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death." God has thus limited the extent of the consequences of evil. It, in one sense, wears itself out. Let no one say however that Christ, the Savior, is not needed. The slaying of Him only promoted His plan of redemption. It cut away all our nature of flesh and blood that He had taken, and in Him we and the whole creation were potentially set free from all corruption and all harvests that are the consequence of sin and sins. "The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death" (Rom. 8:2). What more does any one want than a punishment for sin that is fully adequate; that accords with absolute justice; that has the strongest sanctions that can be imagined, because not only of their greatness, but also because of their continuance even after forgiveness; a punishment that is not unnatural and unreasonable but that grows out of the creature's selfish actions; a punishment that so closely and continuously disciplines its author that the release can come only by an utter and forever putting away of the cause; a punishment that is not manufactured by an angry God,but whose cause and development depend entirely upon the creature and a fallen nature; a punishment that vindicates God's character for goodness, for He makes sin, even against its will, work for righteousness and also destroy its own harvest of all kinds of death, through the death that it wrought in His only and first begotten Son! This is a sane and scriptural doctrine of punishment. "For God hath shut them all up for unbelief, that He might have mercy upon all.

O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments, and His ways past finding out! For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been His counsellor? Or who hath first given to Him, and it shall be recompensed unto Him again. For out of Him, and through Him, and unto Him, are all things: to whom be glory for the ages. ~Chas. H. Pridgeon
 

FineLinen

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Kolasis aionion -Matthew 25:46

Greek scholar William Barclay wrote concerning kolasis aionion (age-during corrective chastisement) in Matthew 25:46

The Greek word for punishment is kolasis, which was not originally an ethical word at all. It originally meant the pruning of trees to make them grow better.

There is no instance in Greek secular literature where kolasis does not mean remedial punishment. It is a simple fact that in Greek kolasis always means remedial punishment.

God's punishment is always for man's cure.

Fifteen literally translated (not interpretively translated) Bibles that reveal what God will do with the sinners in Matthew 25:46

Concordant Literal, Young's literal, Wilson's Emphatic Diaglott, Rotherham's Emphasized, Scarlett's, J.W. Hanson's New Covenant, Twentieth Century, Ferrar Fenton, The Western New Testament, Weymouth (unedited), Clementson's, The New Testament of our Lord and Savior Jesus Anointed, The Restoration of Original Sacred Name Bible, Bullinger's Companion Bible margins, Jonathan Mitchell's translation (2010).

Concerning the duration of kolasis (literally - corrective punishment), Matt. 25:46 says

And these shall go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into life eternal.

Scarlett's New Testament written in 1792 has eonian punishment in place to everlasting punishment.

And these will go away into aeonian punishment: but the righteous into aeonian life.

The New Covenant by Dr. J.W. Hanson written in 1884 renders Matt. 25:46: And these shall go away into aeonian chastisement, and the just into aeonian life.

Young's Literal Translation first published in 1898 and reprinted many times since uses the following words: And these shall go away to punishment age-during, but the righteous to life age-during.

Professor Young also compiled Young's Concordance, where one can check the translation of each Hebrew or Greek word as translated in the KJV.

The Twentieth Century New Testament first printed in the year 1900 = And these last will go away into aeonian punishment, but the righteous into aeonian life.

The Holy Bible in Modern English by Ferrar Fenton first published in 1903 gives the rendering: "And these He will dismiss into a long correction, but the well-doers to an enduring life.

The New Testament in Modern Speech, by Dr. F. Weymouth = And these shall go away into punishment of the ages, but the righteous into life of the ages.

Dr. Weymouth most frequently adopts such terms as life of the ages, fire of the ages; and in Rev. 14:6, the good news of the ages.

It is a matter of regret that the editors of the most recent edition of Dr. Weymouth's version have reverted to the KJV renderings for the passages containing the Greek word aion, eon, or age.

The Western New Testament published in 1926 renders Matt. 25:46 as follows: And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into life eternal.

The translation, however, has a footnote on Matthew 21:19 on the word "Literally, for the age.

Clementson's The New Testament (1938) = And these shall go away into eonian correction, but the righteous into eonian life.

Wilson's Emphatic Diaglott (1942 edition) translates the verse, And these shall go forth to the aionian cutting-off; but the righteous to aionian life.

It should be noted that the cutting-off refers to pruning a fruit tree to make it bear more fruit. The idea behind the word is not destructive but productive! Had Jesus wanted to emphasize a destructive end, He would have used the word timoria.

The Concordant Version (1930): And these shall be coming away into chastening eonian, yet the just into life eonian.

The New Testament of our Lord and Savior Jesus Anointed printed in 1958 says: And these shall go away into age lasting cutting-off and the just into age lasting life.

Joseph B. Rotherham Emphasized Bible (1959) =, and these shall go away into age-abiding correction, but the righteous into age-abiding life.

The Restoration of Original Sacred Name Bible copyrighted in 1976 = "age-abiding correction instead of everlasting punishment.

Jonathan Mitchell's translation (2010) =

And so, these folks will be going off into an eonian pruning (a lopping-off which lasts for an undetermined length of time; an age-lasting correction; a pruning which has its source and character in the age), yet the fair and just folks who are in right relationship and are in accord with the Way pointed out [go off] into eonian life (life which has it source and character in the Age; life pertaining to the Age).

Even some King James Study Bibles will show the reader in the margins or appendixes that the King's translators were incorrect in their rendering of "eternal punishment.

The great Companion Bible by Dr. Bullinger is an example of that. Greek scholar William Barclay wrote concerning kolasis aionion (age-during corrective chastisement) in Matthew 25:46

The Greek word for punishment is kolasis, which was not originally an ethical word at all. It originally meant the pruning of trees to make them grow better. There is no instance in Greek secular literature where kolasis does not mean remedial punishment. It is a simple fact that in Greek kolasis always means remedial punishment. God's punishment is always for man's cure.
 

FineLinen

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Our Father's will prevails. He exceeds mere desire for mankind to be saved, He wills it!

"God longs for everyone to embrace his life and return to the full knowledge of the truth. For God is one, and there is one Mediator between God and the sons of men—the true man, Jesus, the Anointed One. He gave himself as ransom-payment for everyone." ~TPT

"Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth."

"will have" =θέλω thélō =

1. Determined in purpose.

2. Resolved in purpose.

3. Have in His mind.

"We worship the awe-inspiring God with pure hearts. He longs for everyone to embrace his life and return to the full knowledge of the truth." ~TPT
 

FineLinen

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Our free choice

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Jacques Ellul (French philosopher & writer)

Am I a pessimist? Not at all. I am convinced that the history of the human race, no matter how tragic, will ultimately lead to the Kingdom of God . I am convinced that all the works of humankind will be reintegrated in the work of God, and that each of us, no matter how sinful, will ultimately be saved.
Salvation is universal because the love of God encompasses all.

If God is God and if God is love, nothing is outside the love of God. A place like hell is thus inconceivable. The difference between the Christian and the non-Christian is not one of salvation. Salvation is given by grace to everyone. Christians are simply those charged by God with a special mission. The meaning of being a Christian is not working at your own little salvation, but changing human history. It is inconceivable that the God who gives Himself in His Son to save us, should have created some people ordained to evil and damnation.

There can only be one predestination to salvation. In and through Jesus Christ all people are predestined to be saved.

Our free choice is ruled out in this regard. God wants free people, except in relation to this last and definitive decision. We are not free to decide and choose to be damned." "Being saved or lost does not depend on our own free decision. An explicit confession of Jesus Christ is not the condition for salvation.

Salvation is always for everyone, by grace. All people are included in the grace of God. A theology of grace implies universal salvation.
 

FineLinen

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The draw of Yah is accomplished

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The Master of reconciliation will draw how many unto Himself?

ALL

Draw = helkuo =

Draw off in power.

Drag off in power.

Impel in power.

Helkuo is a strong word which means to tug, draw, or compel, and is found 6 times in the New Testament.

In each usage, whatever was drawn came; there is never a suggestion or hint that whatever was drawn was not accomplished.

Jesus said, And I, if I am lifted up, I will draw all men to Myself.
 

FineLinen

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Complete Restoration

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Grace Saves All

Jonathan Mitchell & David Artman

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas...=1000567977753

These days if you ask people what Christianity means a lot of them will say something like, "Christians think God is sending everyone but them to hell for ever and ever." Increasingly Christianity is seen as a religion which divides humanity into "keepers" and "expendables". Christianity is seen less and less as being about grace and restoration, and more and more as being about judgment and eternal rejection. ~David Artman
 

FineLinen

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His constant love

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Keep on giving your thanks to God, for he is so good!

His constant, tender love lasts forever! Let all his princely people sing, “His constant, tender love lasts forever!” Let all his holy priests sing, “His constant, tender love lasts forever!” Let all his lovers who bow low before him sing, “His constant, tender love lasts forever!” Out of my deep anguish and pain I prayed, and God, you helped me as a father. You came to my rescue and broke open the way into a beautiful and broad place. ~TPT
 

FineLinen

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The many words, which we find in the Scriptures, with the prefix "re-" signify a very important fact.

Return, renew, restore, reconcile, resurrect, refresh, redeem - all speak of something that left its place and must now make its circuit and come back to the point of its beginning.

The Greek "ek" literally means out of. This clearly places God as the Source of all things, and hence the Amplified's beautiful translation, "For all things originate with Him and come from Him." ~Ray Prinzing
 

FineLinen

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The groaning creation

"For the earnest expectation of the creature waits for the manifestation of the sons of God. For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who has subjected the same in hope, because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and travails in pain together until now." ~KJV

Questions =

1. What is the scope of the whole creation?

2. What does "made subject" mean?

3. Why did ABBA subject His creation to bondage?

4. What is the final outcome of this subjection?

5. What does "shall be delivered" mean?
 

FineLinen

Well-Known Member
The groaning creation

"For the earnest expectation of the creature waits for the manifestation of the sons of God. For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who has subjected the same in hope, because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and travails in pain together until now." ~KJV

Question #1 = What is the scope of the whole creation?

Ktisis =

Created thing.
Individual beings.
Anything created.
Sum of what is created.

The whole of created life shall be delivered!


Questions =

1. What is the scope of the whole creation?

2. What does "made subject" mean?

3. Why did ABBA subject His creation to bondage?

4. What is the final outcome of this subjection?

5. What does "shall be delivered" mean?
 
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FineLinen

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#2- What does made subject mean?

hypotassō =

To subordinate.
To put in subjection.
To yield admonition & advise.
To obey.
Be subject.

ABBA has subjected all in hope
 

FineLinen

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# 3. Why did ABBA subject His creation to bondage?

Hope = elpis =

Great hope.
Joyful expectation.
To commit into the hands of another to care & manage.

The love of ABBA prevails.
 

FineLinen

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#4 What is the final outcome of this subjection?

eleutheroō =

To make free.
To set at liberty from sin's dominion.
To deliver.

The whole of created life shall be delivered!
 
"Heaven must receive him until the time comes for God to restore everything, as he promised long ago through his holy prophets."

1. What is it?

2. What it is not.

3. What are the Scriptures pointing to this?

4. Who are some of those who have grasped the "Larger Hope"?
I believe it means Jesus is the messiah as He was awaited and prophesied by the old testament prophets.
Its not meant to be a theological wording but literal meaning and hope and encouragement that everything works together in the messiah. It sounds like its talking but God and His promise personally.
All the bible points to what is said in your quote. The purpose of the messiah is to bring salvation to the peoples and nations. It also sounds like it refers technically to saved peoples.
 
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