The Return of Jesus

[Muffled]

Many Christians believe that Jesus will return. According to what I have learned, everyone is special to Him. That would mean He would want to visit each and everyone. Of course, His return means the end as well so He has to work fast. Will He do something like Santa Clause and hit everyone's house on the same night? I think that makes the most sense. But, then again, maybe Santa Clause really is Jesus. Maybe He never died and He has been hanging out up North, visiting once a year to keep track of who gives good cookies and who leave nothing. This plot may go a tad deeper than originally believed.

Thoughts?

Being special does not guarantee a visit from Jesus. Most people will have to settle for a public pronouncement. Of course it could be said that He has already visited us by way of His words in the Bible. As the Bible say "draw near to Him and He will draw near to you. Santa Claus you can only get once a year.

 

[Muffled]

I think he may be over-running a bit.

I think someone took license with that translation because mine says "this generation" and the "this" can refer to the one in which His sign appears in the heavens. Mea culpa! I was referring to the wrong verse. Yes Jesus has come in His kingdom, is here (in spirit) and millions of us are witnesses to that affect.

 

[Muffled]

Except that the idea of Santa goes back way farther then Jesus. Though the name is different the concept of Santa goes back to Odin who would travel and gave gifts to the good children. And they would in return leave carrots for his horse. ^_^

At least Odin did something right. I could never figure out why he would make that evil ***** Hel his wife.

PS: The expletive (deleted *****) that fits the lifestyle starts with a 'B."

 

[enchanted_one1975]

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[Mr Cheese]

Isn't Santa the god of Christmas?

no...

santa for example is only really called Santa in USA...

 

[johnhanks]

I think someone took license with that translation because mine says "this generation" and the "this" can refer to the one in which His sign appears in the heavens. Mea culpa! I was referring to the wrong verse. Yes Jesus has come in His kingdom, is here (in spirit) and millions of us are witnesses to that affect.

Ah, the good old 'in spirit' defence; where would christians be without it?
Let's just re-run the quote:

Matthew 16:28: "I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom."

Nothing there about it happening in spirit: some of the audience were supposed to see the return during their lifetimes, and insisting that this was always meant as some kind of 'spiritual' rather than physical seeing is simply special pleading.

 

[logician]

The supposed Jesus himself(or the writer of the gospel) said that he would return in his generation, not 2k+ years hence. Prophecies were meant for their time and shortly thereafter, not thousands of years in the future. Imagine trying to prophecy events 2 thousands years from now.

 

[Azakel]

At least Odin did something right. I could never figure out why he would make that evil ***** Hel his wife.

PS: The expletive (deleted *****) that fits the lifestyle starts with a 'B."

Except that Hel wasn't Odins wife....
The only connection they have was that she was one of Loki's daughters, and thus (I would guess) a Niece. And chose her to be the ruler of the same name.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

The supposed Jesus himself(or the writer of the gospel) said that he would return in his generation, not 2k+ years hence. Prophecies were meant for their time and shortly thereafter, not thousands of years in the future. Imagine trying to prophecy events 2 thousands years from now.

A lot of people at first think Jesus meant immediately including his apostles.
That is one reason Jesus gave them the illustration at Luke 19:11-15 about a man that would have to travel far away [heaven] before he would return having received the kingdom of royal government.
-[Psalm 110:1; Dan 7:13,14; 2:44]

Matthew 24; Luke 21 have both a 'minor' fulfillment, and a 'major' fulfillment.

Back in Jesus day the 'abomination' of verse 15 proved to be the political Roman armies in the year 66-70. -Luke 21:20,21.
All the features or events that Jesus described that would be part of a global composite 'sign' -Matt 24:3, did not happen in the year 70. For example: Verse 30 at that time all the tribes of the earth did not mourn.....or such a great tribulation verse 21 that the world had never seen. So it would have to be the generation that would be alive when all the features of Jesus 'sign' would be occurring on a world-wide scale including verse 14 having the kingdom or royal government proclaimed in the hands of Christ as king of God's kingdom government.- Isa 9:7.

'This generation' would be the people of Matthew 25:31,32 that are alive or living on earth at that time of Jesus 'glory'. Since the 'abomination' in 70 was political, then at the future time leading up to Matt 25 the 'abomination' would also be political. In the past, God used the military ax, even on his own people if they corrupted themselves. Today we see on a global scale that the world's religions, or world's religious sector, has run afoul playing false to God and his Word. The political world sees a dangerous religious climate brewing in the world today such as religious terrorism. With backing the United Nations can be strengthened to turn on such troublesome religion and with God backing the political 'kings' or world powers will turn on the world's composite false religious 'queen' or religious sector. -Rev 17:2,17; 18:7,8.

 

[BruceDLimber]

Greetings!

In fact, IOV the Christ Spirit already returned around a century and a half ago, so the prophecies in question are either already fulfilled or are in the process of being fulfilled!

(Sorry if you missed it.)

Peace,

Bruce

 

[logician]

A lot of people at first think Jesus meant immediately including his apostles.
That is one reason Jesus gave them the illustration at Luke 19:11-15 about a man that would have to travel far away [heaven] before he would return having received the kingdom of royal government.
-[Psalm 110:1; Dan 7:13,14; 2:44]

Matthew 24; Luke 21 have both a 'minor' fulfillment, and a 'major' fulfillment.

Back in Jesus day the 'abomination' of verse 15 proved to be the political Roman armies in the year 66-70. -Luke 21:20,21.
All the features or events that Jesus described that would be part of a global composite 'sign' -Matt 24:3, did not happen in the year 70. For example: Verse 30 at that time all the tribes of the earth did not mourn.....or such a great tribulation verse 21 that the world had never seen. So it would have to be the generation that would be alive when all the features of Jesus 'sign' would be occurring on a world-wide scale including verse 14 having the kingdom or royal government proclaimed in the hands of Christ as king of God's kingdom government.- Isa 9:7.

'This generation' would be the people of Matthew 25:31,32 that are alive or living on earth at that time of Jesus 'glory'. Since the 'abomination' in 70 was political, then at the future time leading up to Matt 25 the 'abomination' would also be political. In the past, God used the military ax, even on his own people if they corrupted themselves. Today we see on a global scale that the world's religions, or world's religious sector, has run afoul playing false to God and his Word. The political world sees a dangerous religious climate brewing in the world today such as religious terrorism. With backing the United Nations can be strengthened to turn on such troublesome religion and with God backing the political 'kings' or world powers will turn on the world's composite false religious 'queen' or religious sector. -Rev 17:2,17; 18:7,8.

I don't think so.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

I don't think so.

Even if you do not think so, the Bible is indicating so.

Is there a feature of Matthew chapter 24 and Luke chapter 21, passed the year 70, that we can not connect to our time frame?

 

[David69]

The eagle landed in 1969. He is I.