The Science of Human Evolution

[sayak83]

Why is it that when someone post


If ask creationist


That's because the link that you gave, is not about dinosaurs, but about "The Science of Evolution" about human like chimp fossils being found.

So I don't know where or how dinosaurs came to be in the conversation, when it's about The Science of Evolution" about chimps like humans walking upon two legs, that were to have been back 6-7 Millions of years ago.

You do know how dinosaurs came up? You brought it up. See below.

You know after giving it some thought, and close examination.

You said "The first human like ancestors
( hominins ) after the human chimp lineage divergence at around 6-7 million of years ago.were found to walk on two legs.

Now this explains everything.
Seeing how this takes us back to the dinosaurs of million years ago.

How these ape like humans lived along side with the dinosaurs.

As for me, this explains it all, that back in the first earth age, of the dinosaurs and these human like apes lived along side with the dinosaurs.

That now to day, scientist found these human like ape fossils, buried in rocks.

And trys to tie them to the modern man of today.
You probably have no clue or idea what I'm talking about, when I speak of the first earth age.
But now I see how the first earth age of the dinosaurs and those ape like humans, living together with the dinosaurs back in the first earth age. Those ape like humans, were not actually humans, but resemble humans in their like manner of walking on two legs.
That now I see how this fits into the bible.

I know you have no clue or idea what the heck I'm talking about.

That's because you have no understanding about the first earth age.if you did, you would know exactly what I'm talking about.

The reason why nobody has a clue of what you are talking about is because you are flat out wrong. You brought in the dinosaurs. You said that these "ape-like" humans, whose fossils these scientists have found, were living along with the dinosaurs in something you called the "first age of the earth." And all of what you said were incorrect as these "ape-like humans" lived from 7 million years ago onwards, while the dinosaurs went extinct 65 million years ago...that is these hominins lived 58 million years after the last dinosaur died. So your theory, as you wrote it, cannot possibly be true.

Next you asserted that these ape-like humans never evolved in modern humans. This assertion is also false, since, as you wanted, I provided a continuous sequence of fossils from 7 million years to today where stage-by-stage, the features of the ancestral ape skeleton slowly evolved into anatomical features of modern humans.

Would you be polite enough to acknowledge that you made a mistake and your theory of dinosaurs and ape-like humans living together is refuted by the evidence? Then we can move ahead and discuss the gradations in the evolution of humans from ancestral apes.

 

[Faithofchristian]

NO man was there with the dinosaurs according to the evidence we have. If you think some Man was there with them, please provide the evidence.

YOU were the one that brought up 'Terrestrial Man' and 'Celestial Man'. Clearly these are figures in your mythology. Fine. Go for it. But we do not subscribe to your mythology. So the terms mean absolutely nothing to us.

And, furthermore, the actual evidence on the ground says thre were no humans around when the dinosaurs were. So your claim otherwise *does* require supporting evidence, not mere claims based on your mythology.

That all depends on which man your referring to.
I didn't say anything about humans.

Why you keep referring to humans for. I didn't say anything about humans.

 

[Darkstorn]

That all depends on which man your referring to.
I didn't say anything about humans.

Why you keep referring to humans for. I didn't say anything about humans.

You referred to ape-like humans. Plain and simple:

Seeing how this takes us back to the dinosaurs of million years ago.

How these ape like humans lived along side with the dinosaurs.

That is your quote.

 

[Subduction Zone]

But you failed to the answer as to which man was there with the dinosaurs, was it the Celestial man or the Terrestrial man.

So the burden of proof is still on you to prove which man wasn't there.

I explained your error to you. You need to prove that your Celestial Man exists in the first place.

Or better yet, define your terms. If you can't define your terms you have not asked a question.

 

[Valjean]

That all depends on which man your referring to.
I didn't say anything about humans.

Why you keep referring to humans for. I didn't say anything about humans.

OK, so how are we defining "man" here?

 

[Faithofchristian]

You are guilty of that. You changed your story. First you said that ape-like men lived among dinosaurs 6.5 million years ago. Then later you changed that into a weird celestial - terrestrial men thingy.

What happened to these ape-men of your previous story?

Oh right, i forgot, you aren't actually thinking this through.







You can basically see his argument "evolving."

In the wrong direction.



What happened to the ape-man of your original story?



You've postulated 3 different men... I think it's your job to prove any of them exist before you demand us to prove your nonsense wrong.

So your the only person who ever lived that never got side tracked about things when your talking with someone else

I was thinking of a totally different man. Than the chimp fossils.

But now I had the time to regroup myself.the chimp fossils in likeness of human beings that walk upon two legs that were found to date back to 6-7 million years ago, wasn't there at the time of the dinosaurs.

Now for the man I was thinking about was there with the dinosaurs. But people tell me that man wasn't there with the dinosaurs, so the burden of proof is on them to show which man wasn't there, was it the Celestial man or the Terrestrial man.
That wasn't there ?

 

[Darkstorn]

I was thinking of a totally different man. Than the chimp fossils.

You were too specific for that and you know it. You are lying.

Now for the man I was thinking about was there with the dinosaurs. But people tell me that man wasn't there with the dinosaurs, so the burden of proof is on them to show which man wasn't there, was it the Celestial man or the Terrestrial man.
That wasn't there ?

No.

 

[Subduction Zone]

That all depends on which man your referring to.
I didn't say anything about humans.

Why you keep referring to humans for. I didn't say anything about humans.

Humans and man are synonymous. Again, you know that you are wrong and are trying to shift the burden of proof. This is a dishonest tactic that is not fooling anyone.

 

[Faithofchristian]

OK, so how are we defining "man" here?

That's exactly my point, is to define which man was there, was it the Celestial man or the Terrestrial man.

So as you said, are we to define which is which.and my answer is Yes.

Whether anyone wants to accept it or not, that's totally up to them.

The Celestial man is spirit. That of an angel. This man was there with the dinosaurs.

The Terrestrial man is of flesh and blood human man. What we are.

But then people who have no knowledge or understanding of the Bible, will not be able to put things together.

The bible supports the fact that the earth is Billions of years old if not older.

But people are to negative to criticize the bible, before they even know what the Bible actually confirm's, the bible supports scientist in alot of ways that people don't even realize.
All because people take what young earth creationists will say, then judge the bible accordingly.

That would be like me judging you by what someone else will say and not giving you the chance to speak for yourself.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Humans and man are synonymous. Again, you know that you are wrong and are trying to shift the burden of proof. This is a dishonest tactic that is not fooling anyone.

If to what say is right, the by all means, explain the difference between the Celestial man and the Terrestrial man ?

So therefore the burden of proof is still on you.

 

[Subduction Zone]

That's exactly my point, is to define which man was there, was it the Celestial man or the Terrestrial man.

That is only the beginning, but go ahead and post a definition.

So as you said, are we to define which is which.and my answer is Yes.

Whether anyone wants to accept it or not, that's totally up to them.

The Celestial man is spirit. That of an angel. This man was there with the dinosaurs.

Not a very good definition, and not one that has any evidence behind it, in fact it goes against the biblical account. So now are you not only opposing science, you are opposing the Bible as well.

The Terrestrial man is of flesh and blood human man. What we are.

But then people who have no knowledge or understanding of the Bible, will not be able to put things together.

Now you are not being honest again. You have been shown to be the one that does not understand the Bible. Just because you make up unsupported nonsense and interpret verses out of context to suit your whim does not mean that you understand the Bible. Not only that you need to use a version whose use of the English language you do not understand.

The bible supports the fact that the earth is Billions of years old if not older.

No, it doesn't. You can't find any support for that claim in the Bible.

But people are to negative to criticize the bible, before they even know what the Bible actually confirm's, the bible supports scientist in alot of ways that people don't even realize.
All because people take what young earth creationists will say, then judge the bible accordingly.

That would be like me judging you by what someone else will say and not giving you the chance to speak for yourself.

No you simply are delusional when it comes to what the Bible says at best. If you want to discuss the myths of the Bible that would be fine. You will be shown to be wrong even if you do only that.

 

[Subduction Zone]

If to what say is right, the by all means, explain the difference between the Celestial man and the Terrestrial man ?

So therefore the burden of proof is still on you.

Please, do not respond again with the same lie. You do not get to make up bogus terms and then demand that others use them.

But I can explain the difference to you. "Celestial man" is ignorant nonsense that you made up. You can't support the claim. By "Terrestrial man" you mean man. That is all. Since you demanded I had to define your terms properly for you. You still lose since Celestial man never existed.

 

[Valjean]

If to what say is right, the by all means, explain the difference between the Celestial man and the Terrestrial man ?

So therefore the burden of proof is still on you.

The burden is on you to provide evidence for this hypothetical celestial man.
Got any fossils?; artifacts?

 

[Faithofchristian]

If to what say is right, the by all means, explain the difference between the Celestial man and the Terrestrial man ?

You do know how dinosaurs came up? You brought it up. See below.



The reason why nobody has a clue of what you are talking about is because you are flat out wrong. You brought in the dinosaurs. You said that these "ape-like" humans, whose fossils these scientists have found, were living along with the dinosaurs in something you called the "first age of the earth." And all of what you said were incorrect as these "ape-like humans" lived from 7 million years ago onwards, while the dinosaurs went extinct 65 million years ago...that is these hominins lived 58 million years after the last dinosaur died. So your theory, as you wrote it, cannot possibly be true.

Next you asserted that these ape-like humans never evolved in modern humans. This assertion is also false, since, as you wanted, I provided a continuous sequence of fossils from 7 million years to today where stage-by-stage, the features of the ancestral ape skeleton slowly evolved into anatomical features of modern humans.

Would you be polite enough to acknowledge that you made a mistake and your theory of dinosaurs and ape-like humans living together is refuted by the evidence? Then we can move ahead and discuss the gradations in the evolution of humans from ancestral apes.

Yes, but the man I was in thinking about was not the same as you were referring to.

But I had time to regroup myself and see where my mistake was at. So I apologise for not realizing my mistake.

I was totally thinking of another man, that was there with the dinosaurs.

But the chimp fossils being in the likeness, that walk on two legs, that dated back to
6-7 million years ago, was not the same as I was thinking about.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Please, do not respond again with the same lie. You do not get to make up bogus terms and then demand that others use them.

But I can explain the difference to you. "Celestial man" is ignorant nonsense that you made up. You can't support the claim. By "Terrestrial man" you mean man. That is all. Since you demanded I had to define your terms properly for you. You still lose since Celestial man never existed.

For your information the Celestial man is not human man of flesh and blood., That can not die.

But the Terrestrial man is the human man of flesh and blood that will die.

 

[Subduction Zone]

For your information the Celestial man is not human man of flesh and blood., That can not die.

But the Terrestrial man is the human man of flesh and blood that will die.

And where isyour evidence for this "Celestial man"? Where did the term come from? And misinterpretations of the Bible are no evidence. I just wanted to get that out there from the start.

 

[sayak83]

Yes, but the man I was in thinking about was not the same as you were referring to.

But I had time to regroup myself and see where my mistake was at. So I apologise for not realizing my mistake.

I was totally thinking of another man, that was there with the dinosaurs.

But the chimp fossils being in the likeness, that walk on two legs, that dated back to
6-7 million years ago, was not the same as I was thinking about.

Excellent, thank you. Now, I am happy to answer any further questions regarding the hominins fossil record and the evolution of "earthly" humans...those who leave behind bones and stone tools.

 

[Darkstorn]

Yes, but the man I was in thinking about was not the same as you were referring to.

But I had time to regroup myself and see where my mistake was at. So I apologise for not realizing my mistake.

I was totally thinking of another man, that was there with the dinosaurs.

But the chimp fossils being in the likeness, that walk on two legs, that dated back to
6-7 million years ago, was not the same as I was thinking about.

You know after giving it some thought, and close examination.

You said "The first human like ancestors
( hominins ) after the human chimp lineage divergence at around 6-7 million of years ago.were found to walk on two legs.

Now this explains everything.
Seeing how this takes us back to the dinosaurs of million years ago.

How these ape like humans lived along side with the dinosaurs.

As for me, this explains it all, that back in the first earth age, of the dinosaurs and these human like apes lived along side with the dinosaurs.

That now to day, scientist found these human like ape fossils, buried in rocks.

And trys to tie them to the modern man of today.
You probably have no clue or idea what I'm talking about, when I speak of the first earth age.
But now I see how the first earth age of the dinosaurs and those ape like humans, living together with the dinosaurs back in the first earth age. Those ape like humans, were not actually humans, but resemble humans in their like manner of walking on two legs.
That now I see how this fits into the bible.

I know you have no clue or idea what the heck I'm talking about.

That's because you have no understanding about the first earth age.if you did, you would know exactly what I'm talking about.

It takes some courage to admit you're wrong. But based on your first posts in this thread it seems your apology is somewhat dishonest.

You would not call your "celestial men" ape-like men by accident. In a thread very specific about human evolution.

I think you made a story and are now trying to change the story.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Excellent, thank you. Now, I am happy to answer any further questions regarding the hominins fossil record and the evolution of "earthly" humans...those who leave behind bones and stone tools.

Your Welcome, we all are humans which are not perfect. If I find myself in making a mistake I will admit it.

I am not saying that anyone has to accept what I'm saying nor do I have to accept what their saying.
But at lease lets be open minded to see what others have to say, then go from there. It's all a learning process.

So yes I am open to whatever you have to say. I may not agree with you and you may not agree with me, that's a learning process that we all may go thru.

 

[Faithofchristian]

It takes some courage to admit you're wrong. But based on your first posts in this thread it seems your apology is somewhat dishonest.

You would not call your "celestial men" ape-like men by accident. In a thread very specific about human evolution.

I think you made a story and are now trying to change the story.

That's because the Celestial man is not of this world nor is he an ape like man.

But the Terrestrial man is of this world, but he is not an ape like man either.

Now as for the Celestial man, he was there with the dinosaurs. And before the dinosaurs came into existence.