The snake didn´t lie, God cheated

[Heathen Hammer]

When one wakes up in the morning, is our day and all of its events pre planed for us, where like robots, we act?
Or, do we decide to enjoy a cup of coffee first, take a shower, decide to go to work or not etc. etc.
Choices, intelligent choices?
That, as gods we havehargle bargle
warble asdiasdfd adfa
oasdfdf agh random

Again, try a more rational counter.

^^

The layers that make up your personality are so vast, and the outside stimuli that affect your decisions so numerous, that you cannot tell if you have free will or not. As regards love, though, the same applies.

 

[look3467]

For the record, included in my quote the following was written that is none of mine "hargle bargle, warble, asdiasdfd adfa, oasdfdf, random".

Please separate any comments from quotes.
Thank you.
Blessings, AJ

 

[InChrist]

The serpent (satan) did certainly lie and the first humans were deceived. God gave humans dominion over the earth. Satan wanted to usurp this dominion and the allegiance of humanity from God to himself.The tree of good and evil represented wisdom and understanding from God's perspective. Wisdom concerning good and evil that only God the Creator possesses. The tree was a test for the first humans to see whether or not they would trust their God and Maker for wisdom or some other source. They chose to listen to the serpent and trust his words over God's. The ramifications of living under the dominion of satan have impacted the world and human life ever since.

So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Rev. 12:9

Jesus said to him, “It is written again, ‘You shall not tempt the Lord your God.’” Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. And he said to Him, “All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me.”Then Jesus said to him, “Away with you, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.’” Matthew 4:7-10

But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them. 2 Cor. 4:3-4

Jesus came to bring freedom from the power of satan and deliver us from evil. (Matthew 4:6; Acts 26:14-18; Gal. 1:4)

 

[Wayfaring Stranger]

But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them. 2 Cor. 4:3-4

Is the Gospel veiled from just the ones in this shirt list.

2Co:4:2:
But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty,
not walking in craftiness,
nor handling the word of God deceitfully;
but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.

 

[InChrist]

Is the Gospel veiled from just the ones in this shirt list.

2Co:4:2:
But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty,
not walking in craftiness,
nor handling the word of God deceitfully;
but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.

I'm not sure exactly what your question is.

 

[Wayfaring Stranger]

Are the 3 qualities listed in Vs:2 the reason things are hidden in the verse below or can there be a wide variety of reasons?

2Co:4:3:
But if our gospel be hid,
it is hid to them that are lost:

 

[look3467]

^^

The layers that make up your personality are so vast, and the outside stimuli that affect your decisions so numerous, that you cannot tell if you have free will or not. As regards love, though, the same applies.

The capacity to love........is it there?
Love is born within and can not do harm, but rather is compassionate, caring and forgiving.

Love is from above and can only reside within each one of us as the Spirit of the Almighty God.

This world offers no love, for all is vanity.

Blessings, AJ

 

[Heathen Hammer]

The capacity to love........is it there?
Love is born within and can not do harm, but rather is compassionate, caring and forgiving.

Love is from above and can only reside within each one of us as the Spirit of the Almighty God.

This world offers no love, for all is vanity.

Poetic, but not particularly germane.

Love is a set of reactions you get to someone you are attracted to as a potential mate, or a relative. Their causes, as I said, are vast. The continuum as to how you react to them, equally vast. What you list here are nice sentiments which have little to do with the reality of it.

As to the idea it can do no harm... nonsense.

 

[mayuboar]

the story of adam and eve reads like a fairy tail, only a little more unbelievable.

 

[look3467]

Poetic, but not particularly germane.

Love is a set of reactions you get to someone you are attracted to as a potential mate, or a relative. Their causes, as I said, are vast. The continuum as to how you react to them, equally vast. What you list here are nice sentiments which have little to do with the reality of it.

As to the idea it can do no harm... nonsense.

Yes, you are absolutely correct! Speaking of physical love, looking at it from a carnal point of view......But then.....there is the Adam's side of you which is the spirit.

That in spirit you can love which nothing in this world can stop....even to the point of death.

That my friend is what God is all about.

Because of what the spiritual side of this day represents, you and I were gifted with life beyond this one, because of love.

Here is a scripture verse that states it all: Joh 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

This verse has two applications, 1. to all of us whether we believe or not, evident by the fact that some unbelievers die rescuing others in the line of duty without religion entering the mind.

But mainly, 2. this verse is a direct representation of the love of God for us, in that "no man" meaning, except for God Himself in Jesus, would be willing to lay down His life, body and soul, for the salvation of all mankind.

Blessings, AJ

 

[look3467]

the story of adam and eve reads like a fairy tail, only a little more unbelievable.

It does, for an adult, but to children, by the way, the epitome of innocence, have no walls of prejudices built up by mankind, can believe.

If and when, one is able to see past the physical nature of this world into the spiritual nature of God's kingdom, one will see the story of Adam and Eve for what it really is.

And when that happens, one will appreciate our existence the more and bless the God our Creator.

Blessings, AJ

 

[Heathen Hammer]

Yes, you are absolutely correct! Speaking of physical love, looking at it from a carnal point of view......But then.....there is the Adam's side of you which is the spirit.

they are one and the same as far as this is concerned and your musings and poetry are again, not germane.

 

[look3467]

they are one and the same as far as this is concerned and your musings and poetry are again, not germane.

Well, I see your minds made up regardless of the argument.

I'll move on.

Blessings, AJ

 

[Heathen Hammer]

You're not making an argument, you are making things up so that reality is not 'boring'. But move on, if you must.

 

[Desert Snake]

IMO it's the same discussion whether someone believes in it or not, ....same concepts, same characters..

 

[mayuboar]

It does, for an adult, but to children, by the way, the epitome of innocence, have no walls of prejudices built up by mankind, can believe.

If and when, one is able to see past the physical nature of this world into the spiritual nature of God's kingdom, one will see the story of Adam and Eve for what it really is.

And when that happens, one will appreciate our existence the more and bless the God our Creator.

Blessings, AJ

the bible is full of prejudices so that was written by your creator yes.

 

[look3467]

the bible is full of prejudices so that was written by your creator yes.

Would you say...judgments against sin are prejudices?
Is a law prejudice.

In the case of Adam and Eve, sin was at the door. The choice is there to be made.

Wrong choices meet with consequences which are considered prejudices?

The bible is written with blessings and curses because of the state of mankind.

The only deliverance is by the Creator Himself, for no man could.

The story of Adam and Eve details that case.

Blessings, AJ

 

[mayuboar]

Would you say...judgments against sin are prejudices?
Is a law prejudice.

In the case of Adam and Eve, sin was at the door. The choice is there to be made.

Wrong choices meet with consequences which are considered prejudices?

The bible is written with blessings and curses because of the state of mankind.

The only deliverance is by the Creator Himself, for no man could.

The story of Adam and Eve details that case.

Blessings, AJ

there are many parts in the bible that are pro slavery, anti gay, anti female, that would be prejudice in most peoples eyes.

 

[look3467]

there are many parts in the bible that are pro slavery, anti gay, anti female, that would be prejudice in most peoples eyes.>>>mayuboar

When you read about Jesus, do you find prejudices in His dealings with people?

Blessings, AJ

 

[Heathen Hammer]

He was rather angry at rich people.