the solution of Allah when war happened between two muslims parties

[Godobeyer]

وَإِن طَآٮِٕفَتَانِ مِنَ ٱلۡمُؤۡمِنِينَ ٱقۡتَتَلُواْ فَأَصۡلِحُواْ بَيۡنَہُمَا*ۖ فَإِنۢ بَغَتۡ إِحۡدَٮٰهُمَا عَلَى ٱلۡأُخۡرَىٰ فَقَـٰتِلُواْ ٱلَّتِى تَبۡغِى حَتَّىٰ تَفِىٓءَ إِلَىٰٓ أَمۡرِ ٱللَّهِ*ۚ فَإِن فَآءَتۡ فَأَصۡلِحُواْ بَيۡنَہُمَا بِٱلۡعَدۡلِ وَأَقۡسِطُوٓاْ*ۖ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ يُحِبُّ ٱلۡمُقۡسِطِينَ (٩&#65279


49-9 Alhujurat
And if two parties of believers fall to fighting, then make peace between them. And if one party of them doeth wrong to the other, fight ye that which doeth wrong till it return unto the ordinance of Allah; then, if it return, make peace between them justly, and act equitably. Lo! Allah loveth the equitable. (9)


this the only suggest and solution of Allah ,who disgree with that ?

 

[Gharib]

Alawites aren't Muslim. Your point is???

 

[Godobeyer]

Alawites aren't Muslim. Your point is???

Ah, it's not about Bashar regime , dame it ,now the truth recovered .

you claim Alawites are not Muslims ?!!! so you support the war against them ?

Who give you the right ,to decide who is muslim or not muslim ?

So Allah should step away , and you tell us , who is really muslim and who not ?

 

[dynavert2012]

yes Alwaists are not Muslims, do you consider who ordered others to say no god but bashar and to prostrate to his photo is a muslim?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEpXTnWBe4g

 

[Matemkar]

Salam. First of all the conflicts in the muslim world is political, not religious/madhabi: (And I suggest the thread is moved to politics forum.)

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Head of Hezbollah: 'Most Conflicts in Arab & Islamic World are Political, Not Religious' (ENG Subs) - YouTube

Secondly, sunnis, shias, alewites, sufis.. all are muslims.. Even if one believed another were not a muslim, it is not a reason to fight.. A sunni sheikh explaining:

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Are shia Kuffar reply by Sheikh Imran Hosien - YouTube

 

[Assad91]

Matemkar is right. These conflicts are political. The Sunnis want a Sunni government, Shia want a Shia government. Of corse Iran will back Shia Assad, and the Sunni will back the Sunni rebels. We all know what will happen regardless of who wins. Shia win, Sunni blood will be spilled in revenge and mistrust. Sunni win, Shia blood will be spilled in revenge and mistrust.

And I think that is why the Syrian Shia fight for an oppressive regime.

 

[Godobeyer]

yes Alwaists are not Muslims, do you consider who ordered others to say no god but bashar and to prostrate to his photo is a muslim?


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to post this video is high level of foolish and blindness .
So you show us an individul action to accuse other sect of muslims (Millions ) as non-muslims ?

 

[Godobeyer]

No it's not about politic issue , the truth is appears , it's about some takfiriyin , whom considerate just them selfs as muslims .

 

[Assad91]

No it's not about politic issue , the truth is appears , it's about some takfiriyin , whom considerate just them selfs as muslims .

Ah, the overly simplification.

Please provide proof they all are takfiryin.

 

[Godobeyer]

Ah, the overly simplification.

Please provide proof they all are takfiryin.

awwwwwwwwww ,don't you read the precedent posts , some members here just called Alawiyin are not muslims .
so they are takfiriyin .

 

[Union]

History repeats itself brothers . Paying the consequences of splitting the Islam, sad truly sad May ALLAH gather us all again under the power of ONE :

- ONE GOD, ALLAH (swt).
-ONE PROPHET , MUHAMMAD.
-ONE BOOK , QUR'AN
-ONE NATION , MUSLIM.

 

[Assad91]

awwwwwwwwww ,don't you read the precedent posts , some members here just called Alawiyin are not muslims .
so they are takfiriyin .

Why yes, I did see that. But for all I know, the poster who said that was an Australian Muslim who is not exactly in Syria, for why would a rebel be on RF?

Now, as I said, provide proof that the rebels, not RF posters, or percentage of supporters, etc etc, but rebels, are takfiriyn.

 

[dynavert2012]

awwwwwwwwww ,don't you read the precedent posts , some members here just called Alawiyin are not muslims .
so they are takfiriyin .

seems you know nothing about takfyrien nor hear about that this umma will be divided into 73 sect all of them in the hell except one

i advice you before offending others to read first

 

[Assad91]

I wonder, in regards to the op. What do you think of early Muslim history and the interfighting? The sahaba even had conflicts. Were they takfiri and bad?

I advise a different, not overlly simplified look at this.

 

[Godobeyer]

I wonder, in regards to the op. What do you think of early Muslim history and the interfighting? The sahaba even had conflicts. Were they takfiri and bad?

I advise a different, not overlly simplified look at this.

Sahaba fighting each other that their own problem , that accident it's not my refenence to resolve the fitna between two muslims parties , my reference is this :

وَإِن طَآٮِٕفَتَانِ مِنَ ٱلۡمُؤۡمِنِينَ ٱقۡتَتَلُواْفَأَصۡلِحُواْ بَيۡنَہُمَا*ۖ فَإِنۢ بَغَتۡ إِحۡدَٮٰهُمَا عَلَى ٱلۡأُخۡرَىٰ فَقَـٰتِلُواْ ٱلَّتِى تَبۡغِى حَتَّىٰ تَفِىٓءَ إِلَىٰٓ أَمۡرِ ٱللَّهِ*ۚ فَإِن فَآءَتۡ فَأَصۡلِحُواْ بَيۡنَہُمَا بِٱلۡعَدۡلِ وَأَقۡسِطُوٓاْ*ۖ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ يُحِبُّ ٱلۡمُقۡسِطِينَ (٩&#65279


49-9 Alhujurat
And if two parties of believers fall to fighting, then make peace between them. And if one party of them doeth wrong to the other, fight ye that which doeth wrong till it return unto the ordinance of Allah; then, if it return, make peace between them justly, and act equitably. Lo! Allah loveth the equitable. (9)


that's a rule , Allah was clear , HE ORDER us to make peace between two sect of Muslims fighting , so who disagee with that , he/she disobeye what Allah said .

so any one called for Jihad in Syria or Iraq or any peacefull islamic country is takfiri and had terrorist way of thinking .

for me anyone claim that Alawiyeen is kufaar is takfiri (terrorist ) .

So you reference to resolve the problems (fitna) between two parties of muslims is the history of Muslims ,not what Allah said/want ?

 

[Gharib]

Godobeyer, If someone says that some Sahaba are kaffir and deviants then what does that make the person who said it?

 

[Godobeyer]

seems you know nothing about takfyrien nor hear about that this umma will be divided into 73 sect all of them in the hell except one

i advice you before offending others to read first

that's my idea , that's help
this is a cause of the problem , 73 sect , any sect calls it self the true muslim

so any sect call the others sects are Kufar ?

so what is your advise who to who called Alawiyin (or any other sect) is Kurar (not muslims) ?

 

[Godobeyer]

Godobeyer, If someone says that some Sahaba are kaffir and deviants then what does that make the person who said it?

for me , who insult Sahaba is sinner not Kafir .

why ? because he/she did Alshahada .

the rule is any one did Shahada is a Muslim .if he/she do good deeds that up to him , and if he do bad deeds that up to him too.

so if someone insult Allah or Muhammad or Sahahab , that's relation between him/her AND Allah , so if Allah forgive him/her or punish him/her that's up Him.

Allah knows best .

 

[Gharib]

for me , who insult Sahaba is sinner not Kafir .

why ? because he/she did Alshahada .

the rule is any one did Shahada is a Muslim .if he/she do good deeds that up to him , and if he do bad deeds that up to him too.

so if someone insult Allah or Muhammad or Sahahab , that's relation between him/her AND Allah , so if Allah forgive him/her or punish him/her that's up Him.

Allah knows best .

I see that you have very limited knowledge on this issue which you have invited us to discuss.

If a Muslim is called a kaffir and he is not a kaffir, then the person who said it is a kaffir.

You kept throwing the word takfir from post to post and now you are telling me that those who call the Sahaba kuffar are still Muslim because they say Shahada?

You have given me a very dishonest answer. Why, I don't know but it is a very dishonest answer. Maybe to support Assad and the Alawites.

 

[dynavert2012]

that's my idea , that's help
this is a cause of the problem , 73 sect , any sect calls it self the true muslim

so any sect call the others sects are Kufar ?

so what is your advise who to who called Alawiyin (or any other sect) is Kurar (not muslims) ?

i'm calling alawiyin as kufar, why because they are saying that Ali is deity
and if you don't know why i said that, just read this article
Alawi Sect
if you considered that Islam, so it's up to you

i'm not takfiri and i'm considering them one of the 72 misguided sect but i think saying a kafir is kafir isn't a sin